Dragon Ball Genkida Matsuri 2026 DBS remaster, DBS galactic patrol arc, Age 1000 announced.

[super michael]

Is Super Beerus opens with Kaioshin and Kibito separate and then Goku and Vegeta use SS4 and SS3 that's more than enough to connect to Super.

Kaioshin and Kibito being separate in Battle of Gods was actually Toriyama's original plan, as his art of the characters from the movie back in 2013 had them separate, so that could happen. As for Goku and Vegeta using those forms, we already know they won't because we saw them using Ssj3 and Ssj2 respectively in the trailer. However, they could throw in a couple of lines that either indicate they have them and explain why they're not using them.

A trailer is just a trailer. While I expect that those shots will appear in the episodes proper, to think that they could not simply be followed up by further transformations is jumping the gun.

In the original BoG trailer Gohan used SSJ to fight Beerus, while in the actual movie Gohan used his ultimate form. Something there are different in the trailer compared to what happens in the movie and episode.

[kemuri07]

And I promise that NO ONE AT TOEI OR EVEN TORIYAMA ever thought about it that way.

I'm sorry, but that's an asinine statement. Of course Toriyama makes new stories and worldbuilding in connection to his own story. How much of that story is faithfully adapted or how much stuff is made up in addition to what he provided is anyone's guess since it's rarely made public.

Sure. But he’s also infamously known for making shit up as he went along. Being a shonen jump mangaka is punishing work and a good toolset to have is knowing when to “zig” and when to “zag”. It’s how Toriyama was able to strike lighting in the bottle twice.

The point is that while Toriyama does do world building, he’s not that kind of worldbuilder. He never intended for DBZ to work like a GRRM or Sanderson piece of literature where everything and anything is connected or important, and the attempts at Dragonball to try this approach have always been awful and, I would argue, worsen the source material.

I like Brandon Sanderson’s stuff because the material he writes is suited to that level of scrutiny. Dragonball is not that kind of story, and I’ve never understood why people think it’s what the franchise needs.

[mecha3000]

Well, I just chose Zamasu and Gomah since they both represent character types born from the Boo arc. So, it'd be a more fitting way to bridge the gap between Super and Daima. And Gomah has Degesu as his underling so imagine him trying to treat Zamasu the same way and getting almost killed.

[Zephyr]

Daima does a little bit of musing on Glind with superiority complexes, and it would be fun to see Zamasu recontextualized as someone aligned with Degesu's beliefs.

[JulieYBM]

Daima does a little bit of musing on Glind with superiority complexes, and it would be fun to see Zamasu recontextualized as someone aligned with Degesu's beliefs.

That would be cool.

I doubt they'll go so far as to do this, but I'd love it if Zamasu and Gowasu were simply at the Universe Six tournament because they were visiting Beerus' world while Gokuu and Vegeta were sparring before being interrupted by Champa. Having Zamasu's growing loathing of Gokuu be a connective tissue for the Universe 6 arc and the Future Trunks arcs by having it basically be a POV narrative would be a ton of fun.

[Zephyr]

Daima does a little bit of musing on Glind with superiority complexes, and it would be fun to see Zamasu recontextualized as someone aligned with Degesu's beliefs.

That would be cool.

I doubt they'll go so far as to do this, but I'd love it if Zamasu and Gowasu were simply at the Universe Six tournament because they were visiting Beerus' world while Gokuu and Vegeta were sparring before being interrupted by Champa. Having Zamasu's growing loathing of Gokuu be a connective tissue for the Universe 6 arc and the Future Trunks arcs by having it basically be a POV narrative would be a ton of fun.

I do like this. It would give Zamasu and Goku a bit more of a personal relationship prior to the former's heel turn. Could have Goku and Hit flexing on the Hakaishin during their match serve as an additional element to Zamasu's spiraling, perhaps even the inciting incident. If they then also sprinkled in the manga's bit of them initially suspecting Kibito as Goku Black, that'd make it even better.

[JulieYBM]

Daima does a little bit of musing on Glind with superiority complexes, and it would be fun to see Zamasu recontextualized as someone aligned with Degesu's beliefs.

That would be cool.

I doubt they'll go so far as to do this, but I'd love it if Zamasu and Gowasu were simply at the Universe Six tournament because they were visiting Beerus' world while Gokuu and Vegeta were sparring before being interrupted by Champa. Having Zamasu's growing loathing of Gokuu be a connective tissue for the Universe 6 arc and the Future Trunks arcs by having it basically be a POV narrative would be a ton of fun.

I do like this. It would give Zamasu and Goku a bit more of a personal relationship prior to the former's heel turn. Could have Goku and Hit flexing on the Hakaishin during their match serve as an additional element to Zamasu's spiraling, perhaps even the inciting incident. If they then also sprinkled in the manga's bit of them initially suspecting Kibito as Goku Black, that'd make it even better.

Yeah, definitely! Heck, that first scene of the first episode of the Champa arc being Zamasu arrogantly trying to spar with Gokuu and realizing that he nearly avoided being humiliated because Champa and Vados interrupt or whatever is a great little moment to start us off before watching the tournament in person just builds and builds on his growing disgust.

[Noah]

An alternative could be adapting Jaco, the Galactic Patrolman and Neko Majin...

Well, considering RoF remaster/remake might be a thing, I think the perfect opportunity to introduce properly Jaco to the audience would be adapting his story there, but also could be in the Moro arc too

[Luso Saiyan]

Sure. But he’s also infamously known for making shit up as he went along.

Well, that's how storytelling works. And like any good storytellers whose work stands the test of time, things are not random and there's a sense of internal logic within the fiction, partially done from the start, and partially done with the progression of the story.

Of course, some people in their ignorance exaggerate and mock based on blatantly self-deprecating statements. But that says more about their tone deafness than any fault of the artist in question.

[Peach]

But if there is a canon, then Dragon Ball Online is canonical by all intents and purposes, using any and all arbitrarily made-up excuses people generally use to credit/discredit something.

By "canon" in that example I meant the Super manga referencing Z filler and Online doesn't mean that all events of those continuities exist in the same continuity of the manga and just whatever Toyotaro decided to include. Same with Daima and they might reference some of it later without needing to including every piece of lore or transformation that appeared in Daima.

All the different continuities still exist and nothing is being discredited like a western studio coming out and declaring part of their franchise as "non-canon". Online was shutdown but characters and the story were included in Xenoverse and now this new game that might be treated as a sequel to Online.

There is no canon. There are four different continuities of Dragon Ball Super now, Dragon Ball Daima, and so many more continuities, and Toriyama worked on all of them to varying degrees.

[Skar]

There is no canon. There are four different continuities of Dragon Ball Super now, Dragon Ball Daima, and so many more continuities, and Toriyama worked on all of them to varying degrees.

Well that's almost exactly what I said. There are multiple continuities and at this point they're not only strictly following the manga since they borrow from other continuities. Saying "canon" in this context just means what parts of other continuities is one particular continuity using not that there's any official canon. For example, the Super manga uses the Yardrats and a cameo of Olibu from Z filler but not necessarily means that every scene of filler took place in the Super manga.

[super michael]

Regardless if Dragon Ball Daima is or isn't connected to Dragon Ball Super, my opinion on Dragon Ball Daima won't change. I enjoy watching Dragon Ball Daima, being canon or non canon won't change my answer.

[miguelnuva1]

I doubt their going to leave

Ultra Instinct SS4 Goku

Ultra Ego SS4 Vegeta

Ego Instinct fusion and

Instinct Ego SS4 fusion off the table.

Way to much merch that could be sold off these 4 concepts.

[Scsigs]

If Super Beerus opens with Kaioshin and Kibito separate and then Goku and Vegeta use SS4 and SS3 that's more than enough to connect to Super.

Kinda, but meh. They won't do it.

A trailer is just a trailer. While I expect that those shots will appear in the episodes proper, to think that they could not simply be followed up by further transformations is jumping the gun.

L take after L take with you.
No. The arc's going to be only 6 episodes & they've shown us everything that's going to be in it in the trailer. It's literally just going to contain only scenes from the Battle of Gods movie (even changing how certain shots go to adhere more closely to it) & what was in the show's version of events, just taking out a lot of the padding & speeding up the pace. The entire intent with this recut is to adhere more closely to Toriyama's intentions with this, which is why they're also incorporating stuff from the film, the manga, & whatever other notes Toriyama gave them before he died. Goku's only going SS 1-3 & God here. Why would they have him go SS4? That kind of defeats the point of him going SS God & even God's design, which was purposefully more skinny & not changing Goku's hair much from his base state.

IMHO I'd prefer and I do prefer, Daima and Super being separate.

I think it would be easier to just leave Daima behind as its own standalone project, but with how heavily Toriyama was with it, and with how many new story opportunities it's opened up, will they really do that ? I think at this point it's a given that Daima will get a sequel, but do we really want yet another series of stories set before EOZ, or would it be better to connect Daima to Super and have any future stories be set after EOZ ? I honestly don't know, because I've seen compelling arguments for both sides. The earliest we can expect Daima to be revisited would likely be after whatever they plan to do with Black Freeza gets animated, which may not be until 2030, so we don't really have to worry about it now.

Agreed. Some fans want Daima to be incorporated into Super's events, but I'm like, "Why?" I've already talked about the discontinuities between them. I'd rather they just spin Daima off into its own thing if they do any sequels to it. It's either that, or ignore it & let it be its own thing like GT turned into.

Adapting Neko Majin (with some rewritings) could be a set-up for a new story later down the road. Have those characters eventually interact with the Dragon Ball characters in a new saga. It would also make Freeza's return worthwhile, as he had a child out there and could also make things interesting.

I don't care much about how it would be received, if people won't like it, it would be their problem (but people like seeing the same things again and again? I would suggest them to see a doctor, they have major issues that need to be taken care of), but Neko Majin would certainly expand the world of Dragon Ball, and that's what I care about and I'm here for.

Problem is that Neko Majin wasn't intended to be in continuity with DB like with how Dr. Slump exists in the DB universe, but it wasn't intended to be the exact versions of the characters from that series. Neko Majin also contains contradictions in terms of the timeline & things that were just meant to be jokes & not taken seriously. You're taking a gag manga & expecting it to slot in neatly within Dragon Ball when it wasn't meant to. That's really stupid.

[JulieYBM]

A trailer is just a trailer. While I expect that those shots will appear in the episodes proper, to think that they could not simply be followed up by further transformations is jumping the gun.

L take after L take with you.
No. The arc's going to be only 6 episodes & they've shown us everything that's going to be in it in the trailer. It's literally just going to contain only scenes from the Battle of Gods movie (even changing how certain shots go to adhere more closely to it) & what was in the show's version of events, just taking out a lot of the padding & speeding up the pace. The entire intent with this recut is to adhere more closely to Toriyama's intentions with this, which is why they're also incorporating stuff from the film, the manga, & whatever other notes Toriyama gave them before he died. Goku's only going SS 1-3 & God here. Why would they have him go SS4? That kind of defeats the point of him going SS God & even God's design, which was purposefully more skinny & not changing Goku's hair much from his base state.

I love how you decide to be an asshole for no reason and then write a paragraph as if I'm going to bother respecting anything you have to say afterward.

I doubt their going to leave

Ultra Instinct SS4 Goku

Ultra Ego SS4 Vegeta

Ego Instinct fusion and

Instinct Ego SS4 fusion off the table.

Way to much merch that could be sold off these 4 concepts.

Yeah, I think this is a safe bet.

[GurixDr34]

I like the announcements I'm glad Dragon Ball Super is back i just hope that after the Moro and Granolah arcs end they continue the story after the end of Z with Uub honestly Dragon Ball Super is starting to look like Dragon Ball AF i think Dragon Ball will never have an ending with Goku and Vegeta facing new villains getting new transformations and never aging

I also liked the Dragon Ball Beerus announcement but i think the only reason this third version of Battle of Gods would be worth watching is to see Goku and Vegeta transform into Super Saiyan 4 and Super Saiyan 3 Daima has to be Canon since Akira Toriyama created Daima there should be references to Daima in Dragon Ball Super Beerus because i dont see the point in making a Remake if you are not going to mention the Daima arc

[Grimlock]

Well, considering RoF remaster/remake might be a thing, I think the perfect opportunity to introduce properly Jaco to the audience would be adapting his story there, but also could be in the Moro arc too

It would be too good to be true, so they will never adapt it...

Problem is that Neko Majin wasn't intended to be in continuity with DB like with how Dr. Slump exists in the DB universe, but it wasn't intended to be the exact versions of the characters from that series. Neko Majin also contains contradictions in terms of the timeline & things that were just meant to be jokes & not taken seriously. You're taking a gag manga & expecting it to slot in neatly within Dragon Ball when it wasn't meant to. That's really stupid.

(with some rewritings)

Can you read, my dear Dragon Ball fan?

[WittyUsername]

The idea of the DBS remake incorporating transformations and lore from Daima just sounds really lame to me. Having Goku use SS4 against Beerus wouldn’t add anything to the story.

[JulieYBM]

The idea of the DBS remake incorporating transformations and lore from Daima just sounds really lame to me. Having Goku use SS4 against Beerus wouldn’t add anything to the story.

The whole project is lame, they might as well toss in shit for fun. This is the same project that will ostensibly be including Super Saiyan Gokuu Black, after all.

[Skar]

It would be easier to just keep Super and Daima as separate continuities than including SSJ3 Vegeta and SSJ4 Goku only to have them lose to Beerus and never appear again. They replaced by stronger forms after the first arc so only other time they would appear is if Goku decides to cycle through all his forms like against Jiren.