Kid Buu vs Buuhan(Article):

[PhantomSaiyan]

Kid Buu is stronger and I don't even wanna begin arguing about it because this topic had me probably a whole year ago at this point. You just have to disagree with way too many official sources to think than buuhan is stronger than kid Buu,ignoring the context of the arc itself which literally debunks the only 2 scans that buuhan riders like to use

The official sources in question have not even been written by toriyama, imo the only thing that has to be taken into consideration is the manga itself, and the manga itself speaks clearly as many people have pointed out in this thread already. Using basic observation and logic one can pretty easily deduce who is stronger without needing to be handheld by an official guide book written by toei employees aka not the original creator.

Yeah, sure. It's a real shame that many of that sources come from toriyama interviews in which he explains his writing and native style

But sure, continue thinking what you like more champ. You don't liking guides just because they contradict your bias doesn't strip them of their value as a source. Official guides>>whatever opinion you may have, like it or not

Nope, none of what you've said is true I'm afraid. Toriyama never directly stated kid buu > buuhan in any of his interviews, and official guides (according to which ox king is stronger than king piccolo and 23 bt goku to name just one of the many many inconsistencies in those guidebooks) are absolutely not worth more than what a human with a brain can get out of reading the official source: the one and only dragon ball manga. Mental handholding is not necessary to undersand a shonen manga.

Deciding your opinion based on books which are not even written by the original author and have been proved to have been wrong and filled with inconsistencies over and over instead of trusting one's own logic and ability to interpret things wil never not be baffling to me, it's the antithesis of rational thought.

To come to the conclusion that kid buu is stronger than buuhan you have to completely forgo logic, and twist things around and make insane leps in reasoning in order to make it make sense. Kinda like trying to make daima and super fit into one continuity.

[daniel1]

First off, I apologize for bumping a year old thread. However, I continue to get views on my website from this thread, so I felt it is still somewhat relevant. Just today I received 4 views from here, for example. Admins and mods, please feel free to delete this post if you feel like I'm unnecessarily necroposting.

To anyone reading this thread, I encourage you to form your own opinion on my writing after you've read it. I know this is a big ask as the deep dives are quite long. But if you really read what I wrote, you'll find that most of the comments in this thread do not engage with what was written. And some of the comments here are... well, let's go with "colorful" and "creative." Also, I've made significant readability improvements to it, so it should be easier to read than it was a year ago. I will start working on YouTube video versions of the deep dives later this summer. They should be even more accessible than the current written iterations. So keep an eye out for that, if you're interested.

The truth of the matter is that this particular debate is almost religious in nature with how seriously people ascribe to their position. Some people will simply never agree on this, and that's fine. I just ask that everyone tries their best to act civil about it. I am directing this to the people who share my deep dives online, as well. This is an incredibly niche subject in pop culture, and it's not the end of the world if one side is right or wrong.

I work roughly 52 hours a week outside of updating my website, so I simply forgot about this thread. A fan (?) of mine shared images with me today that are from here and I was genuinely shocked that these are still being used in contemporary discussions. I don't find anything meritous in going through these images one-by-one and debunking them. At most, I ask that you treat images shared in this thread with healthy skepticism and to read my deep dives with an open mind.

Thank you.

[Zebra]

Not that I disagree with your stance that Pure Boo is the strongest Boo, but looking through the article, I gotta say there's no reason to include any info that comes straight from Funimation, be it DVD summaries, character bios, or any of their other products. At that point, you may as well be citing the Funimation dub. They're pretty irrelevant in telling us what Toriyama, Toei, Shuiesha, etc ever intended. Unless the info originates in Japan, it's pretty insignificant. I don't see any reason to count anything that only comes from the franchise's IP holders in other countries.