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[Koitsukai]

Actually, I've always seen it the other way around.
Messi was the one who started with a handicap, much like Goku. His growth hormone deficiency is somewhat comparable to Goku being raised on a planet with only 1G. He had to overcome that disadvantage and work his way up just to reach the same physical baseline as everyone else, and still be called a midget, lol.

The whole narrative that Messi just coasts through his career without putting in any effort is nonsense. It mostly comes from people who have no idea what it takes to be not just a professional athlete but an elite one.

Also, more than anything else, it's their personalities that make Messi the Goku of the story and Cristiano its Vegeta, at least in my opinion. The Cell Games had Goku do what Cristiano won't do for the sake of his team: recognize when someone else is better suited for the job and step aside.

[The Dark Knight]

I'm actually surprised Messi is playing this time around considering he won the cup for his country 4 years ago; that would have been the perfect time to retire from international events. I do believe his legacy is secure, but I can't help but wonder if his reputation will be slightly hurt if Argentina doesn't at least make it to the finals.

To bring things back to Dragon Ball; I feel the same way about Toriyama, some of the animators like Yamamoru, and the voice actors; they all should have walked away once the original run of the series wrapped up back in the 90s. Toriyama's writing was nowhere near the level it was back when he was writing the manga, the voice actors in a lot of instances feel like they're phoning it in, and Yamamoru's reputation has been destroyed since this revival era began. I think a Dragon Ball product set after Z, made up entirely of new writers, voices, and animators, would have been far better than what we ended up with. Modern DB, for the most part, feels less like a product made by people who still have something worth contributing to the series, and more like people trying to recapture their glory days but failing miserably at it.

[Kid Buu]

With the next WC being in Spain and Portugal, I imagine Ronaldo will want to play. He'd probably just embarrasshimself tbh but Ronaldo gonna Ronaldo.

I'm guessing this forum is aware that Halaand is constantly being compared to Super Buu?

[Doctor Seaweed Roll]

My Floridian relatives told me that there is 3 noodle bars themed around dragon ball called Soupa Saiyan. I wish i could go but I can't afford to fly to Florida at the moment so I thought I'd share this info with y'all. https://soupanoodlebar.com/locations/

[ZeroNeonix]

With the next WC being in Spain and Portugal, I imagine Ronaldo will want to play. He'd probably just embarrasshimself tbh but Ronaldo gonna Ronaldo.

I'm guessing this forum is aware that Halaand is constantly being compared to Super Buu?

Why?

[Kid Buu]

With the next WC being in Spain and Portugal, I imagine Ronaldo will want to play. He'd probably just embarrasshimself tbh but Ronaldo gonna Ronaldo.

I'm guessing this forum is aware that Halaand is constantly being compared to Super Buu?

Why?

They look similar.

[Koitsukai]

[The Dark Knight]

Why?

Because, as the wise Deadpool once said: "On behalf of all humanity, it just feels right".

[ABED]

The crowds at the 21st, 22nd, and 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai were martial arts fans. They knew who Muten Roshi was. I think that's neat. After that, those crowds were frauds. They didn't care about any of the fighters except him (edit: by him I mean Mr. Satan).

[Kid Buu]

The crowds at the 21st, 22nd, and 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai were martial arts fans. They knew who Muten Roshi was. I think that's neat. After that, those crowds were frauds. They didn't care about any of the fighters except him.

Who is him? Mr. Satan?

[ABED]

The crowds at the 21st, 22nd, and 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai were martial arts fans. They knew who Muten Roshi was. I think that's neat. After that, those crowds were frauds. They didn't care about any of the fighters except him.

Who is him? Mr. Satan?

Sorry, my bad. yes, it's Mr. Satan. I wrote something that explicitly stated his name. Deleted that sentence then finished the post. In my mind I wrote that crowds stopped caring about martial arts after Mr. Satan become a celebrity and won his first Budokai.

[Kid Buu]

The crowds at the 21st, 22nd, and 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai were martial arts fans. They knew who Muten Roshi was. I think that's neat. After that, those crowds were frauds. They didn't care about any of the fighters except him.

Who is him? Mr. Satan?

Sorry, my bad. yes, it's Mr. Satan. I wrote something that explicitly stated his name. Deleted that sentence then finished the post. In my mind I wrote that crowds stopped caring about martial arts after Mr. Satan become a celebrity and won his first Budokai.

I've always seen it that the Budokai declined in popularity after the 23rd. Though Mr. Satan becoming the "guy who beat Cell" helped rejuvinate interest to it.

[DanielSSJ]

More like there was such a long hiatus after Piccolo blew up the island that when it came back, it came back to a whole new audience.

[ABED]

More like there was such a long hiatus after Piccolo blew up the island that when it came back, it came back to a whole new audience.

Muten Roshi last won the tournament DECADES before the 21st TB. Few in that audience saw it, but they still knew of the reputation of him being the master of martial arts, so much so that when Goku and Kuririn tell the Tournament Announcer that they were trained by him, they immediately accepted why they had the goods. I get the humor that comes from it, but even in a fictional scenario, the audience having no knowledge of what they are watching bums me out. I also like the more intimate version of the Tenkaichi Budokai arena

[ZeroNeonix]

The crowds at the 21st, 22nd, and 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai were martial arts fans. They knew who Muten Roshi was. I think that's neat. After that, those crowds were frauds. They didn't care about any of the fighters except him (edit: by him I mean Mr. Satan).

It reflects what happens when a niche interest suddenly goes mainstream and loses its original identity.

[Zinnia]

When do you guys think they'll reveal new Japanese VA for Majin Buu?
I'm glad Mr. Kozo managed to record his lines for Xenoverse 2's last DLC.

[The Dark Knight]

When do you guys think they'll reveal new Japanese VA for Majin Buu?

Probably next month or early September; right before the Super remake airs.

[kiarasuraru]

Don't remember why, I think I watching something about Chrono Trigger's making? But I got a Daima retrospective sorta thing video on the recs and with nothing better to do and wanting to keep being a waste of space in bed I went to watch it and fell down a rabbit hole and then watched like ten more, and boy, maybe I'm going senile already but I seriously didn't remember Daima being this utterly nonsensical and lacking in practically any sort of genuine structure or basic logic narrative or consistency. Messy? Maybe boring and padded? Sure. But nothing THIS bad.
Like, seriously. Even within itself. Even while trying to pretend only Daima exists and nothing else the whole thing crumbles under its own weight.

I was pretty happy though because one of them mentioned something I don't remember seeing mentioned by anyone ever before, swear I'm the only one person in the whole wide world who's ever thought of it: That Arinsu didn't need to become a keikakumaster 3000 for anything. It was pointless, needless, useless. Why? She could have gone and created Kuu, not even Duu, Kuu, and get him to kill Gomah and she wins ez pz. And if she STILL wants the Dragon Balls then she can then go and make Duu anyways too.
Granted, you can say something like this at a LOT of moments through all of Daima to avoid Daima's entire plot but this is by far and wide the earliest "moment" you can point to that truly and genuinely makes all of Daima simply not happen at all whatsoever.
She ended up winning anyway anyway and got away with literally everything though. That's my Hikasa voiced Queen.

[ABED]

I'm not saying it's super deep but I do wonder how many people understand that it's very intentional on Toriyama's part that in the first fight between Goku and Vegeta, Vegeta picks the higher mountain to stand on at the start of the battle.

[Cold Skin]

I'm not saying it's super deep but I do wonder how many people understand that it's very intentional on Toriyama's part that in the first fight between Goku and Vegeta, Vegeta picks the higher mountain to stand on at the start of the battle.

Probably fewer than you'd think! Even simple imagery like that doesn't get noticed that often by readers/viewers.
They usually don't even realize that every single camera angle was usually chosen to convey something specific.

I also think, although it's not a visual thing but a storyline thing, that people don't notice how against Freeza, Toriyama sets a growing sense of despair as he takes every idea that the reader (even as a kid) would have, cranks it up to 11 just to tell you "sorry, doesn't work AT ALL even when breaking limits". Like "yeah, but Goku still has the Kaioken, he just has to go a little higher as usual, Freeza is gonna be shocked!" or "yeah, but Goku still has the Genki Dama, that's gonna settle things!", makes those points actually way more efficient than they should be (Kaioken x10 and x20, Genki Dama turned giant...) AND reveals that even those super-ultra versions of the trump cards the readers might have thought about are proved insufficient one after the other, with the fight never ending when you could have thought it would be the decisive turn.

Simple but effective in my opinion to take your expectations, make them even more outstanding just to throw them to the bin like "did you think it would be that simple? Guess again."