How old is Vegeta?

Kak · Post by **Kak** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:16 am

Though his voice does get close to his adult voice in a couple of his lines, Kid Vegeta has a childs voice, especially during his dialogue with Nappa after killing the Saibaimen, which are his longest lines in the special.

JulieYBM · Post by **JulieYBM** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:20 am

Well, according to Rachael's timeline translation, Vegeta is thirty when he appears on Earth, and yet that would make Son 25 (body 24) but would also mean he was 19 when he fought Piccolo despite the Daizenshû saying he was eighteen.

Darknat · Post by **Darknat** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 3:36 pm

JulieYBM wrote:Well, according to Rachael's timeline translation, Vegeta is thirty when he appears on Earth, and yet that would make Son 25 (body 24) but would also mean he was 19 when he fought Piccolo despite the Daizenshû saying he was eighteen.

maybe Goku's birthday was later that year lol

No need to be so nitpicky about it

Thanos6 · Post by **Thanos6** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:27 am

What really throws me off is Goten. Supposed to be 7 when the 25th Budokai rolls around, which was in May, but he wasn't even born seven Mays ago...

Post by **Herms** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:36 am

If I remember right, the Japanese just consider you a year older when a new year comes around, rather than on your birthday. So with Goten, he was born in Age 767, and through that logic he'd be seven years old by Age 774, even if going by his (unspecified) birthday he'd be six and a fraction.

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 1:21 am

Kak wrote:Though his voice does get close to his adult voice in a couple of his lines, Kid Vegeta has a childs voice, especially during his dialogue with Nappa after killing the Saibaimen, which are his longest lines in the special.

I still think Vegeta sounds a lot closer to an adult than any normal child would. Though even Goku and Gohan's voices changed a little bit over the years as they grew, so I can't say that Vegeta's voice would be the EXACT same as a kid.

Pain · Post by **Pain** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 1:35 am

Herms wrote:If I remember right, the Japanese just consider you a year older when a new year comes around, rather than on your birthday. So with Goten, he was born in Age 767, and through that logic he'd be seven years old by Age 774, even if going by his (unspecified) birthday he'd be six and a fraction.

That seems complicated, yet normal and understandable in a sense.

sailorspazz · Post by **sailorspazz** » Tue Aug 05, 2008 2:40 am

Herms wrote:If I remember right, the Japanese just consider you a year older when a new year comes around, rather than on your birthday. So with Goten, he was born in Age 767, and through that logic he'd be seven years old by Age 774, even if going by his (unspecified) birthday he'd be six and a fraction.

That was true in the past, but I don't think the Japanese use that system anymore. After all, during the Cell saga, we see Gohan's birthday being celebrated (granted, it's filler), so the concept of an individual birthday appears to be commonplace. The fact that Goten is said to be seven during the Buu saga was probably just Toriyama-sensei not really calculating out the months when the events were taking place (he probably just thought, it's seven years after Cell, Goten was born soon after the Cell saga, so he must be seven).

Though I do find it interesting that in old Japan it used to be possible to be two years old if you were only one day old (since they didn't have the concept of zero back then, any newborn babies were considered to be 1 at the time of birth, and then when the new year came, everyone would be considered one year older, so a baby born on the last day of the old year could suddenly be 2 years old).

DB_Fan · Post by **DB_Fan** » Tue Aug 05, 2008 5:45 am

Xyex wrote: GT was 5 years after Z, plain and simple, despite Toei's various descrepencies. Things like with Bra. And no, Bra's clothes aren't the issue (she's related to Bulma and we all know what she was like as a kid), it's her driving (and the guys that hit on her) that are the issue. Goten and Trunks are also clearly not 27/28 and 28/29.

I don't think that having Bra driving is much of a problem. 13 year old Krillin is seen driving in the Red Ribbon Army Saga, isn't he?

Dark Vegeta-Sama · Post by **Dark Vegeta-Sama** » Wed Aug 06, 2008 12:27 pm

No way in fuck is Bra only 9/10 in DBGT. She's a teenager.

Pan is another story, but considering that she's a tomboy she would never dress "girly" anyway, even at age 14.

Another reason that DBGT must be 10 years after DBZ is because of how all of the humans age. I mean, look at old man Krillin for example. That happened to him in just 5 years? Christ, what did he go through during that time? And look at Uub, who was 10 at the end of DBZ. He is clearly not 15 in GT, and him being a young adult of 20 years old seems way more accurate.

10 years between DBZ and DBGT makes a lot more sense, all things considered.

Post by **Herms** » Wed Aug 06, 2008 12:51 pm

Dark Vegeta-Sama wrote:Another reason that DBGT must be 10 years after DBZ is because of how all of the humans age. I mean, look at old man Krillin for example. That happened to him in just 5 years? Christ, what did he go through during that time? And look at Uub, who was 10 at the end of DBZ. He is clearly not 15 in GT, and him being a young adult of 20 years old seems way more accurate.

Considering that Gohan is only 16 during the Buu arc, I don't think there's anything strange about Uub looking like that at 15.

As for Kuririn, well, he does have a teenage daughter...I'm told that ages you quickly...

Kid Trunks · Post by **Kid Trunks** » Wed Aug 06, 2008 1:21 pm

Herms wrote: Considering that Gohan is only 16 during the Buu arc, I don't think there's anything strange about Uub looking like that at 15.

16? I thought he was 18. 11 at the Cell games. And then 7 years pass.

Xyex · Post by **Xyex** » Wed Aug 06, 2008 1:37 pm

No way in fuck is Bra only 9/10 in DBGT. She's a teenager.

She is. Just like Goku was 15 when he fight and killed King Piccolo.

10 years between DBZ and DBGT makes a lot more sense, all things considered.

10 years doesn't make any sense. And it's officially stated to be 5. You can think that 8 years makes more sense between the Cell Games and the Buu saga, doesn't mean it was 8 years.

16? I thought he was 18. 11 at the Cell games. And then 7 years pass.

Only in the dub. In the original he's 4 at the start, 5 against the Saiya-jins, 6 when Goku came back, 9 when the Androids appeared, and Technically 10 (from the RoSaT training) when he fought Cell. But I don't think they bother counting the RoSaT ages since only those in the RoSaT remember that year, so to everyone else he was 9 when he fought Cell and so 16 in the Buu Saga.

Dark Vegeta-Sama · Post by **Dark Vegeta-Sama** » Wed Aug 06, 2008 3:12 pm

Xyex wrote:
10 years between DBZ and DBGT makes a lot more sense, all things considered.
10 years doesn't make any sense. And it's officially stated to be 5.

How exactly does it "not make sense?"

And as for it being "officially stated," the GT Perfect Files are like the Daizenshuu in that even though they are the closest thing we've got to a Dragonball Gospel, the extra information discussed within the books that was never present in the actual series is all based around assumptions. Yes, it's nice to have that information handy, but it's not always the 100% be-all-and-end-all of everything. The only people who can say for sure how long the gap is between DBZ and DBGT are the Toei executives who worked on the series. Consider the Perfect Files to be fan-pleasers more than anything else.

Post by **Herms** » Wed Aug 06, 2008 3:15 pm

Dark Vegeta-Sama wrote:And as for it being "officially stated," the GT Perfect Files are like the Daizenshuu in that even though they are the closest thing we've got to a Dragonball Gospel, the extra information discussed within the books that was never present in the actual series is all based around assumptions. Yes, it's nice to have that information handy, but it's not always the 100% be-all-and-end-all of everything. The only people who can say for sure how long the gap is between DBZ and DBGT are the Toei executives who worked on the series. Consider the Perfect Files to be fan-pleasers more than anything else.

The information in GT Perfect files is from the creators of the series.

Kroni_Hunter · Post by **Kroni_Hunter** » Wed Aug 06, 2008 3:21 pm

Xyex wrote:
No way in fuck is Bra only 9/10 in DBGT. She's a teenager.
She is. Just like Goku was 15 when he fight and killed King Piccolo.

He says he was 12 at the 21st Budokai, then another 3 years pass and he goes to the 22nd budokai, than another 3 years pass and he fights piccolo. He would be 18, besides who gets married at 15?

Post by **Herms** » Wed Aug 06, 2008 4:26 pm

He fought Piccolo Daimao immediately after the 22nd Tenkaichi Budoukai, which would make him 15.

Kroni_Hunter · Post by **Kroni_Hunter** » Wed Aug 06, 2008 4:29 pm

Herms wrote:He fought Piccolo Daimao immediately after the 22nd Tenkaichi Budoukai, which would make him 15.

o i was talking about the other piccolo, my bad

Xyex · Post by **Xyex** » Wed Aug 06, 2008 7:05 pm

How exactly does it "not make sense?"

Pan is about the same size as 10 year old Gohan. Neither she or Bra look like they're in their teens (hell, Chi-Chi was more developed then them when she first appeared and she was 12). Neither Goten or Trunks act like they're 27/28. Neither Pan or Bra act (or really look) older than 10-ish (Bra's slut-in-training clothes she likely got out of her mom's closet not withstanding). Uub looks more like a teen along the lines of 23rd Budokai Goku or Buu era Gohan than he does an adult.

And as for it being "officially stated," the GT Perfect Files are like the Daizenshuu in that even though they are the closest thing we've got to a Dragonball Gospel, the extra information discussed within the books that was never present in the actual series is all based around assumptions. Yes, it's nice to have that information handy, but it's not always the 100% be-all-and-end-all of everything. The only people who can say for sure how long the gap is between DBZ and DBGT are the Toei executives who worked on the series. Consider the Perfect Files to be fan-pleasers more than anything else.

Unlike the Daizenshuu which was compiled by those who worked with Toriyama, the Perfect Files were compiled by those who made the series. It'd be like if Toriyama had sat down and made the Daizenshuu's as he wrote the series. They were made in conjunction with the series by those making the series. This doesn't mean there wont be issues but it does give them more creedence than the Daizenshuu which were after the fact by a 3rd party.

The plain simple fact is that GT is 5 years after Z, period. This is something that really can't be disputed. The character personalities and designs attest to a five year gap more than a 10 year one. Sure, Krillin got gray kinda fast, but so what? The dude's 53 years old.

o i was talking about the other piccolo, my bad

Yeah, I was talking about King Piccolo. XD That's like, two days after the 22nd tournament.

JulieYBM · Post by **JulieYBM** » Wed Aug 06, 2008 10:25 pm

Xyex wrote:The dude's 53 years old.

And I'm sure his old lady is still chasin' after him every night!

I've been partial to the older characters these days (like Kal-L or KC Kal-El). I guess I just tired of watching films about younger [action/super] heroes...

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