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Post by Rocketman » Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:36 pm

SonEric84 wrote:What is that screen shot of Chi-Chi giving the peace sign from?
Movie 4, she attacks some of Slug's soldiers to protect Gohan.

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Post by SSJ2bardock » Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:37 pm

JAPPO wrote:
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JAPPO wrote:The dialogue will be like the anime. Watch "The One." The one-liners are so deliciously corny. "I am nobodies bitch, you are mine!"
Corny one-liners doesn't really sound like the anime dialogue I know.
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I actually thought that was a pretty cool line... :oops:
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Post by SonEric84 » Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:40 pm

Rocketman wrote:
SonEric84 wrote:What is that screen shot of Chi-Chi giving the peace sign from?
Movie 4, she attacks some of Slug's soldiers to protect Gohan.

Oh yeah, I remember that. Thanks. I haven't watched movie 4 in ages....


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Post by JulieYBM » Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:43 pm

SonEric84 wrote:
Rocketman wrote:
SonEric84 wrote:What is that screen shot of Chi-Chi giving the peace sign from?
Movie 4, she attacks some of Slug's soldiers to protect Gohan.

Oh yeah, I remember that. Thanks. I haven't watched movie 4 in ages....


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Post by Xyex » Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:54 pm

SSJ2bardock wrote:
JAPPO wrote:
Herms wrote: Corny one-liners doesn't really sound like the anime dialogue I know.
"Ally to good! Nightmare to you!" :lol:
I actually thought that was a pretty cool line... :oops:
I might be killed for this, but.... I thought it was better than the original. I mean, Goku does sort of grow into his whole Saiya-jin heritage over time. But having him suddenly shouting "And I am a Super Saiya-jin!" just doesn't feel right to me. He's not in total denial like he was with Raditz but I just don't see it happening, even with his altered mindset thanks to the transformation.
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Post by Chrono Trigger » Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:59 pm

I kinda have to agree. Even in Burst Limit where the English VA said it correctly it sounds...well it sounds like they could have came up with something better for him to say. Ally to good isn't any better though. Didn't he go into a small speech about how he was a warrior with a pure heart awakened by rage ? That whole thing sounded a bit to chatty for Goku and he never says anything that "poetic" again in the series. At least as far as I know.
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Post by Mayuri Furiza Kurotsuchi » Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:59 pm

Xyex wrote:
SSJ2bardock wrote:
JAPPO wrote: "Ally to good! Nightmare to you!" :lol:
I actually thought that was a pretty cool line... :oops:
I might be killed for this, but.... I thought it was better than the original. I mean, Goku does sort of grow into his whole Saiya-jin heritage over time. But having him suddenly shouting "And I am a Super Saiya-jin!" just doesn't feel right to me. He's not in total denial like he was with Raditz but I just don't see it happening, even with his altered mindset thanks to the transformation.
I could've sworn the original line was more like this: "Frieza, I'm mad!!"

Which ever one it was though, I feel a lot better about the American dubs choice of words.

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Post by JulieYBM » Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:11 pm

Son had a epiphany when Vegeta died, y'guys should try rereading the Manga (maybe somebody could post quick panel scans of the panels with his realization and speech to Freeza) because it makes sense. Son's not the brightest lightbulb but he's not stupid. By declaring himself a Super Saiyan he was also antagonizing Freeza who is both increasingly paranoid and frustrated with Vegeta's going on about the SSj legend.

EDIT: This is Son's English speech in Burst Limit.
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Post by djkalteraphine » Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:44 pm

JulieYBM wrote:Son had a epiphany when Vegeta died, y'guys should try rereading the Manga (maybe somebody could post quick panel scans of the panels with his realization and speech to Freeza) because it makes sense. Son's not the brightest lightbulb but he's not stupid. By declaring himself a Super Saiyan he was also antagonizing Freeza who is both increasingly paranoid and frustrated with Vegeta's going on about the SSj legend.

EDIT: This is Son's English speech in Burst Limit.
Yeah, I've always seen it as him trying to scare Freeza, make him suffer, rather than having Saiyajin pride.

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Post by SSJ2bardock » Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:08 pm

"Now I'm truly angry, FREEZA!" I love the way it's delivered by Schemmel on that scene and they should have used it in the dub.
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Post by Rocketman » Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:14 pm

I thought Goku's spiel about 'pure hearted warrior awakened by rage' was odd, because how could he possibly know that?

This ignores, of course, that SSJ Goku's best line is "IIIIIT'S OOVEEERRRRR, FRRREEEEZAAAA!!!"
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Post by Pain » Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:16 pm

Rocketman wrote:I thought Goku's spiel about 'pure hearted warrior awakened by rage' was odd, because how could he possibly know that?

This ignores, of course, that SSJ Goku's best line is "IIIIIT'S OOVEEERRRRR, FRRREEEEZAAAA!!!"
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Post by Raki » Sat Aug 09, 2008 1:43 pm

If 20th Century Fox wants tips on how to condense Dragonball, they should watch the DB movies.
The series doesn't start with the arrival of Raditz. Stop being lazy and watch Dragonball.

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Post by SonEric84 » Sat Aug 09, 2008 1:47 pm

Rocketman wrote:I thought Goku's spiel about 'pure hearted warrior awakened by rage' was odd, because how could he possibly know that?

This ignores, of course, that SSJ Goku's best line is "IIIIIT'S OOVEEERRRRR, FRRREEEEZAAAA!!!"
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Thankyew, thankyew. I dunno where it's from, though. Some Japanese guy's CG image set is all I know.

Link please? If you have one..
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Post by Herms » Sat Aug 09, 2008 1:53 pm

Mayuri Furiza Kurotsuchi wrote:I could've sworn the original line was more like this: "Freeza, I'm mad!!"
That's what Goku says earlier on, after stopping Freeza from shooting down Gohan as he flies away with Piccolo. He goes into the "Super Saiyan Son Goku!!" speech after he takes Freeza's fingertip blast and isn't hurt, and Freeza asks him what he is.
Rocketman wrote:This ignores, of course, that SSJ Goku's best line is "IIIIIT'S OOVEEERRRRR, FRRREEEEZAAAA!!!"
If I remember right, that is actually just what Viz changed the "I'M ANGRY, FREEZA!!" line to. It's the full-page spread with him clenching both his hands and leaning forward a bit, right?
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Post by JulieYBM » Sat Aug 09, 2008 3:02 pm

Herms wrote:
Mayuri Furiza Kurotsuchi wrote:I could've sworn the original line was more like this: "Freeza, I'm mad!!"
That's what Goku says earlier on, after stopping Freeza from shooting down Gohan as he flies away with Piccolo. He goes into the "Super Saiyan Son Goku!!" speech after he takes Freeza's fingertip blast and isn't hurt, and Freeza asks him what he is.
Rocketman wrote:This ignores, of course, that SSJ Goku's best line is "IIIIIT'S OOVEEERRRRR, FRRREEEEZAAAA!!!"
If I remember right, that is actually just what Viz changed the "I'M ANGRY, FREEZA!!" line to. It's the full-page spread with him clenching both his hands and leaning forward a bit, right?
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Post by JAPPO » Sat Aug 09, 2008 3:55 pm

One-liners in a Dragonball movie would be perfectly fine... seeing as there's tons in the English dub and I didn't mind them. I'm not familiar with the Japanese dub but whatever, I know the titles of the episodes in Japanese are corny.

I think James Wong's style of writing suits Dragonball perfectly, honestly, though he's perfectly capable of writing deep and meaningful entertainment.

He and his writing partner Glenn Morgan made the episode "Home" of "The X-Files." That was very disturbing and well-written.

(The description of the episode alone might disturb you).
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Post by SSj_Rambo » Sat Aug 09, 2008 7:18 pm

I agree that one liners can be done well for this movie, but the ones that are supposed to be in the script (like the "Did you just fart" response to Goku's voice) do not sound very appealing.

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Post by Daburcor » Sat Aug 09, 2008 9:38 pm

While that IS a great episode of X-Files, I still think (or rather know) that this movie is going to be bad. I keep getting flashes of DOA...
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Post by Herms » Sat Aug 09, 2008 9:44 pm

Oh God, I remember watching that episode of the X-Files when it was re-aired on Halloween. Creeped me out, it did. But the live-action DragonBall movie won't be like that (I hope).
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