Does GT take place 5 or 10 years after Z?

Lilith · Post by **Lilith** » Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:37 am

I can't seem to get a clear answer. I've always assumed it's 9 or 10, but I've never had any evidence to back it up.

I read once that originally GT was intended to take place 5 years later, but was changed to 9 in an interview with Toei Animation.

If it's true, can anyone provide a link to this interview.

DB_Fan · Post by **DB_Fan** » Wed Aug 13, 2008 5:28 am

According to the Dragon Ball GT Perfect Files, it is 5 years. In Funimation's dub is 10 years.

LSSJ4 · Post by **LSSJ4** » Wed Aug 13, 2008 8:03 am

10 years have always made more sense to me than 5.

SonEric84 · Post by **SonEric84** » Wed Aug 13, 2008 8:16 am

Didn't we just have this thread recently..?

Jerseymilk · Post by **Jerseymilk** » Wed Aug 13, 2008 8:33 am

Yes we have, hundreds of times. And it doesn't matter whether it makes more sense that it be 10 years. The GT Perfect Files state that it's 5 years, so therefore it's 5. The books were made by the people that created the series for heaven's sakes.

Lilith: Not sure what or where that "interview" was, but either way it's false.

Sun_Wukong · Post by **Sun_Wukong** » Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:43 am

Its simple to figure out really, just look at Pan's age.

My guess is she's 5 at the end of Z and 10 at the beginning of GT

Forgotten Hero · Post by **Forgotten Hero** » Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:17 pm

Jerseymilk wrote:Yes we have, hundreds of times. And it doesn't matter whether it makes more sense that it be 10 years. The GT Perfect Files state that it's 5 years, so therefore it's 5. The books were made by the people that created the series for heaven's sakes.

If the GT perfect files says five years, it most be so!

Sun_Wukong · Post by **Sun_Wukong** » Fri Aug 15, 2008 11:01 am

Forgotten Hero wrote:
Jerseymilk wrote:Yes we have, hundreds of times. And it doesn't matter whether it makes more sense that it be 10 years. The GT Perfect Files state that it's 5 years, so therefore it's 5. The books were made by the people that created the series for heaven's sakes.
If the GT perfect files says five years, it most be so!

Well certain fans do only believe what they read in the manga or the daizenshuu

Post by **VegettoEX** » Fri Aug 15, 2008 11:20 am

Sun_Wukong wrote:Well certain fans do only believe what they read in the manga or the daizenshuu

Being that there isn't a manga for DBGT and the "Perfect File" books basically are the daizenshuu for DBGT...

Xyex · Post by **Xyex** » Fri Aug 15, 2008 4:25 pm

VegettoEX wrote:
Sun_Wukong wrote:Well certain fans do only believe what they read in the manga or the daizenshuu
Being that there isn't a manga for DBGT and the "Perfect File" books basically are the daizenshuu for DBGT...

Exactly. And as they were made along side GT, instead of post, the information presented in them was recorded as it was developed. And done so by the exact same people making the anime. Thus there isn't nearly the room for error as is in the Daizenshuu. You need to go with official sources and in this case, as the Perfect Files are the only official source, that's the official answer.

Post by **Herms** » Fri Aug 15, 2008 4:47 pm

Well, that's pretty much the same situation as with the daizenshuu. Toriyama provided the staff with information and gave the books his full approval. Sure he didn't write the books himself, but then it's not like the animators or screenwriters for GT directly wrote the GT Perfect Files either.

Xyex · Post by **Xyex** » Sat Aug 16, 2008 2:10 am

Herms wrote:Well, that's pretty much the same situation as with the daizenshuu. Toriyama provided the staff with information and gave the books his full approval. Sure he didn't write the books himself, but then it's not like the animators or screenwriters for GT directly wrote the GT Perfect Files either.

With the Perfect Files they were written 'in sync' with the production of the anime, though. With the Daizenshuu the writers either had to cull through the manga for information, or locate extraneous notes of Toriyama's (if any existed), or pick his brain and godawful memory, or just make it up. Where as with the Perfect Files all of the series production notes were right there without any wear from time, no chance for information to get lost or mistaken (such as the 1,500 Raditz) and so on.

Darknat · Post by **Darknat** » Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:55 am

Xyex wrote:
Herms wrote:Well, that's pretty much the same situation as with the daizenshuu. Toriyama provided the staff with information and gave the books his full approval. Sure he didn't write the books himself, but then it's not like the animators or screenwriters for GT directly wrote the GT Perfect Files either.
With the Perfect Files they were written 'in sync' with the production of the anime, though. With the Daizenshuu the writers either had to cull through the manga for information, or locate extraneous notes of Toriyama's (if any existed), or pick his brain and godawful memory, or just make it up. Where as with the Perfect Files all of the series production notes were right there without any wear from time, no chance for information to get lost or mistaken (such as the 1,500 Raditz) and so on.

as I said before... the 1500 thing it's not necesarily an error... they used that same battlepower for him in 2 different games in the 90s (2 games that for the most part where very faithfull to battle powers of the anime and manga). So even though Nappa says that raditz is in the level of a Saibaimen I don't think he meant exactly 1200. It's just an statement a character does, not a fact.

I don't say this to discuss who is right or who isn't. We won't get into an agreement in the end, so it's pointless. I just wanted to give my opinion on this.

going back on topic. It's 5 years. Unless Toei retroactively decide to change it. The perfect files are the way to go.

Xyex · Post by **Xyex** » Sat Aug 16, 2008 4:19 pm

as I said before... the 1500 thing it's not necesarily an error... they used that same battlepower for him in 2 different games in the 90s (2 games that for the most part where very faithfull to battle powers of the anime and manga). So even though Nappa says that raditz is in the level of a Saibaimen I don't think he meant exactly 1200. It's just an statement a character does, not a fact.

Except the 90's games could have been the source for the number in the Daizenshuu, or vice versa. Either way though, the way what Nappa says is phrased dictates that Raditz's power is almost exactly the same as the Saibamen and 1,500 is no where near 1,200 (he was nearly killed by a power of around 1,300).

Post by **Herms** » Sat Aug 16, 2008 10:14 pm

Xyex wrote:With the Perfect Files they were written 'in sync' with the production of the anime, though. With the Daizenshuu the writers either had to cull through the manga for information, or locate extraneous notes of Toriyama's (if any existed), or pick his brain and godawful memory, or just make it up. Where as with the Perfect Files all of the series production notes were right there without any wear from time, no chance for information to get lost or mistaken (such as the 1,500 Raditz) and so on.

I don't see why the number of years that passed would necessarily lead to mistakes. The daizenshuu staff gathered productions notes from the manga and anime that were made as each series was being made, and interviewed all the main people involved. It's possible that some mistakes were made that wouldn't have happened if the daizenshuu themselves had been made during the course of the series, but why assume it? You gave Raditz's battle power of 1,500 as an example, but that number had been around since at least the making of the video game Legend of the Super Saiyan (the same is true of Nappa battle power from Daizenshuu 7). That game came out in 1992, four years before Daizenshuu 7 and only a year after the Saiyan/Freeza arc ended in the manga. Figuring in the time it took to develop the game, that pretty strongly indicates that those battle powers were thought up either around or shortly after that story arc happened in the manga. So the length of time later that Daizenshuu 7 came out is irrelevant. They reprinted all the numbers from that Daizenshuu 7 battle power chart years later in DragonBall Forever, so it doesn't look like they thought there was anything wrong with them. Hell, they edited the kanzenban edition of the manga to be in line with the battle power Daizenshuu 7 gave Vegeta on Planet Namek. It's clear that that battle power list, like the rest of the daizenshuu, was made with background information that Toriyama either provided himself or fully approved of. Really, it's the same situation as the 5 year split with GT: it might not make sense to you, but that's what the official number is.

Zitese · Post by **Zitese** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 1:12 am

I had always assumed Pan was 14 so I thought 10. 5 years seems a bit too little.

Considering how young and short Uub was at the end of Z, 10 years makes A LOT more sense.

Forgotten Hero · Post by **Forgotten Hero** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:11 am

Zitese wrote:I had always assumed Pan was 14 so I thought 10. 5 years seems a bit too little.

Considering how young and short Uub was at the end of Z, 10 years makes A LOT more sense.

Ten years makes sense, but the Perfect Files say 5 years. It is an official reference book, what it says is fact.

Neon Z · Post by **Neon Z** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 9:37 pm

Zitese wrote:I had always assumed Pan was 14 so I thought 10. 5 years seems a bit too little.

I disagree. She doesn't seem developed at all to be a teenager, physically, even though she acts like one. Same thing goes to Bra, who acts like a teen, but doesn't seem to be one physically. The 5 years gap makes perfect sense considering their looks.

Considering how young and short Uub was at the end of Z, 10 years makes A LOT more sense.

But he still was fairly young looking in GT. Look at 16 years old Gohan in the Buu Saga, GT Uub seemed somewhat younger than that.

Smooth Criminal · Post by **Smooth Criminal** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 12:07 am

Kids go on dates and have boyfriends at the age of 10 ?

Interesting. If that's a Japanese-culture thing, consider me officially dumbfounded.

Lilith · Post by **Lilith** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 12:24 am

So how old does that make Bra? 11?

Is she older or younger than Pan.

If your wondering why I'm so confused, check here:

http://www.absoluteanime.com/dragon_ball/bra.htm

@_@

GT had so many plot holes. I guess I'll go with five since it's official.

Oh and I apologize if this has been asked a million times. I was in a rush so I didn't take them time to scroll though the pages of posts. I'll be sure to do that next time.

Kanzenshuu

Does GT take place 5 or 10 years after Z?

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