Dragonball Movie Update! What is UP with this?

[Chuquita]

Chuquita said: I don't want to see a Goku who wants to "fit in" or is "whiny" or "romantic". Because that's just not who he is.

Is that how they are trying to portray him in the film ? Or is that how you think they're gonna portray him because of the High School setting ? The very same High School setting that isn't the focus of the whole story ?

*Feels the entire rest of her post, which had the meat on it, was ignored*.

I'm saying that typically if you change someone's upbringing, you'll change a part of their personality.

I was talking about things I hope they don't do to him in that last line. And the "romantic" bit comes from what I read about him and Chi-Chi's relationship 'heating up in a training session' a long while back.

[Herms]

We have Piccolo complaints, even though Fox has basically kept him hidden so far.

Thats what you call a reall huge warning sign. Just like a movie not being screened for critics. The last time I remember a main character in a movie being kept so secret was the 98 Godzilla.

They did that with the Penquin for Batman Returns as well.

[Chrono Trigger]

Chuquita said : *Feels the entire rest of her post, which had the meat on it, was ignored*. Sad

I'm saying that typically if you change someone's upbringing, you'll change a part of their personality.

I was talking about things I hope they don't do to him in that last line. And the "romantic" bit comes from what I read about him and Chi-Chi's relationship 'heating up in a training session' a long while back. Sad

My bad. I misunderstood what you meant. I still think the writers just put the High School aspect in there just to make it easier to get things moving as far as plot and that in the end they still try to keep Goku's character the same. I don't think that was right, I'm just trying to think like they would think about it.

[Chuquita]

Chuquita said : *Feels the entire rest of her post, which had the meat on it, was ignored*. Sad

I'm saying that typically if you change someone's upbringing, you'll change a part of their personality.

I was talking about things I hope they don't do to him in that last line. And the "romantic" bit comes from what I read about him and Chi-Chi's relationship 'heating up in a training session' a long while back. Sad

My bad. I misunderstood what you meant. I still think the writers just put the High School aspect in there just to make it easier to get things moving as far as plot and that in the end they still try to keep Goku's character the same. I don't think that was right, I'm just trying to think like they would think about it.

It's ohkay. ^^;


I'll be able to deal with the high school bit as best I can if they keep Goku's personality intact.

Of everything in this movie, I worry about Goku the most.
Mr. Toriyama's Goku is so far off from any character Hollywood normally portrays I just see them being tempted to force him into stock character land.


At least he's still being raised by Gohan; I'd be infinitely more worried if they dropped his grampa and stuck him into some random nuclear family household in the middle of suburbia with annoying scrappy-doo siblings.

[JAPPO]

Cast and crew talk Goku.

Jose Fernandez of Ironhead studios: I specifically remember our conversations concerning Goku. James [Wong] wanted to make sure that he wasn’t too tailored. He wanted Goku to feel like a timeless warrior. A combination of the new and old. Rather than come out of a superhero factory, Goku pieced together his costume from various sources that were important to him.

Justin Chatwin on Goku (translated from Japanese, so may sound like that).

Interview #1
Goku - Justin Chatwin
I think it is an honor to play Goku. He is a universal character, as if a reincarnation of Luke Skywalker, really great character to play. Goku always takes action himself, is positive thinking, helps the weak. He had a great influence on myself.

Interview #2
I am very honored to be able to play Goku. When I am playing gentle and loving Goku, I feel as if I am given energy from him. In the movie, I have a lot of great action scenes. After the movie is finished post production, I’ll get to see my Kamehameha appear on the screen, and I get very excited when I imagine that.

Taken from posts on http://dbthemovie.com

[Herms]

Jose Fernandez of Ironhead studios: I specifically remember our conversations concerning Goku. James [Wong] wanted to make sure that he wasn’t too tailored. He wanted Goku to feel like a timeless warrior. A combination of the new and old. Rather than come out of a superhero factory, Goku pieced together his costume from various sources that were important to him.

That sounds pretty good. I wonder how literal that last part is supposed to be. Is it just talking about his hero persona being taken from people who are important to him, or is Goku going to actually make his dougi out of various bits of clothe that have some emotional value to him?

[Xyex]

Thats what you call a reall huge warning sign. Just like a movie not being screened for critics. The last time I remember a main character in a movie being kept so secret was the 98 Godzilla.

*Baps you on the head with a rubber chicken*

I know what people say, but I loved the 98 Godzilla. No, it wasn't the same Godzilla we'd seen out of Japan for decades, but you know what? That's fine with me. I don't care. I just care about the movie, nothing else. If the movie is good then it's good, simple as that. And Godzilla rocked.

That sounds pretty good. I wonder how literal that last part is supposed to be. Is it just talking about his hero persona being taken from people who are important to him, or is Goku going to actually make his dougi out of various bits of clothe that have some emotional value to him?

I've been wondering that since I first saw it. If it's the latter I doubt he sews it together or something. And it's likely the blue one in this case, so maybe it's stuff of Gohan's?

Though I feel it more likely the 'costume' is his personality and attitude.

[Herms]

I think it'd be neat if it does turn out to be that Goku's clothes is in some way shape or form made from something with sentimental value, like Gohan's clothes as you said. It'd be like Luffy's hat in One Piece.

I know what people say, but I loved the 98 Godzilla. No, it was the same Godzilla we'd seen out of Japan for decades, but you know what? That's fine with me. I don't care. I just care about the movie, nothing else. If the movie is good then it's good, simple as that. And Godzilla rocked.

Eh...I thought it was pretty lame both as a Godzilla movie and as a standalone movie.

[Bardock the Mexican]

Cast and crew talk Goku.

Jose Fernandez of Ironhead studios: I specifically remember our conversations concerning Goku. James [Wong] wanted to make sure that he wasn’t too tailored. He wanted Goku to feel like a timeless warrior. A combination of the new and old. Rather than come out of a superhero factory, Goku pieced together his costume from various sources that were important to him.

Justin Chatwin on Goku (translated from Japanese, so may sound like that).

Interview #1
Goku - Justin Chatwin
I think it is an honor to play Goku. He is a universal character, as if a reincarnation of Luke Skywalker, really great character to play. Goku always takes action himself, is positive thinking, helps the weak. He had a great influence on myself.

Interview #2
I am very honored to be able to play Goku. When I am playing gentle and loving Goku, I feel as if I am given energy from him. In the movie, I have a lot of great action scenes. After the movie is finished post production, I’ll get to see my Kamehameha appear on the screen, and I get very excited when I imagine that.

Taken from posts on http://dbthemovie.com

All this has made me feel slightly better about the movie. we have one thing that has been retained from the original. We have the KAME HAME HA. Thank you so much for letting us have the attack that everyone knows almost like a household name. The ONE attack that in the English dubs sounds like it actually does (almost) justice to it's Japanese roots. Domo arigato gozaimasu.
This is indeed partially good news, yes? See guys I can be reasonable and accepting when I see somthing remotely good about the movie. Anyone who doubts this will be shown this epic post.

[SSJ2bardock]

I know what people say, but I loved the 98 Godzilla. No, it was the same Godzilla we'd seen out of Japan for decades, but you know what? That's fine with me. I don't care. I just care about the movie, nothing else. If the movie is good then it's good, simple as that. And Godzilla rocked.

Probably the best quote I've seen in the 70 plus pages of this thread. "If the movie is good then it's good, simple as that", and it is as simple as that.

[Victator Supreme]

know what people say, but I loved the 98 Godzilla. No, it was the same Godzilla we'd seen out of Japan for decades, but you know what? That's fine with me. I don't care. I just care about the movie, nothing else. If the movie is good then it's good, simple as that. And Godzilla rocked.

But its not a good movie. It blew chunks. But if you enjoyed that I'm sure this upcoming abortion will be right up your alley.

[SSJ2bardock]

The next time somebody leaves a comment like that one I'm going to lose my F'ing mind! Seriously, just stop. Stop with the predetermined hatred for this movie.

[Sebastian (SB)]

Eh, welcome to all circles of fandom? I can understand the frustration given across and back with this topic, but I'm not really surprised. This is much like the" widescreen issue" last year and FUNimation's treatment/sub vs. dub arguements from 5-10 years ago back. Noticing the cycle? It just gives the fandom some to new to argue, contemplate, etc., about. When it's all good and done, then we'll all find something new to "discuss" about. Kinda like humans can't live without war or some sort of competition.

[SSJ2bardock]

When it's all good and done, then we'll all find something new to "discuss" about.

Some people seem to be skipping the "when it's all good and done" part and that's the reason for my frustration, not because they don't like it. At least wait until we have a fucking trailor before you start burying it 6 feet under.

[Xyex]

But its not a good movie. It blew chunks. But if you enjoyed that I'm sure this upcoming abortion will be right up your alley.

See? This is exactly what I was talking about. Here we have a perfect example of those "My opinion is fact and everyone who disagrees with me is an idiot, go away loser" posts I mentioned before. It was a good movie. Just because you didn't like it doesn't mean it wasn't good or enjoyable to other people.

Get over yourself.

[Sebastian (SB)]

When it's all good and done, then we'll all find something new to "discuss" about.

Some people seem to be skipping the "when it's all good and done" part and that's the reason for my frustration, not because they don't like it. At least wait until we have a fucking trailor before you start burying it 6 feet under.

Well, what I generally mean when it's over and done with. Some just argue for the sake of arguing, others have their reasons. It really shouldn't much to get bent over about since it's really a repeated cycle. It's better to kick the grief to the curve if evidence of past topics serve any purpose.

[Onikage725]

*Reply to me about DB movie 3 and Goku in school*

Eh, can I just concede the point? It was one of a few examples used to make a general point that alterations happen in adaptations. If you look over any of my previous points, the school thing in particular is one I have *never* supported. So going against you right now would make it look like I do...

But really, though, that one has been beaten to death anyway. We all know he's going to be in school for a (hopefully) brief bit. Some people are hopeful they'll pull it off, some are convinced they can't. Most seem to pray that it's just some bs to get through in the opening act, similar to the level of teenage drama in The Forbidden Kingdom. Not to beat my Transformers comparison to death, but it is similar to the atmosphere back then. Tales of the original script being very teen-drama driven, complete with full football game sequence. What we actually got was some teen angst for the setup, a humorous and brief football scene, and then the rest of the movie shifted away from those locales and issues for the most part.

Thats what you call a reall huge warning sign. Just like a movie not being screened for critics. The last time I remember a main character in a movie being kept so secret was the 98 Godzilla.

How is that a huge warning sign? Comic book movies do it quite often. Actually, many high-profile movies in general try to prevent leaks and keep a few surprises. Keep in mind this is a movie coming to theaters that they want to give mass market appeal. We may all know Daimao's deal and just want to see what he's going to look at, but there are plenty of people who aren't hardcore DB fans who will see this movie (or at least, that's what Fox is hoping).

And I will say on that Godzilla movie that after seeing their version of the monster, I had a hard time going back to the slow, upward-walking muppet-looking fake suit creature plodding along and occasionally stopping to pick up a train car or vomit radiation on some tanks. Though the movie itself lost me right about the part where it seemed to think it was Jurassic Park.

But its not a good movie. It blew chunks. But if you enjoyed that I'm sure this upcoming abortion will be right up your alley.

1. Please fix the quote tags in that post...cuz...damn.
2. I think the word you want is "aberration."
3. Is that really necessary? That's exactly the attitude I was talking about. What are you constructively contributing to the thread by calling the movie an "abortion" while simultaneously insulting another members tastes?

[Chrono Trigger]

Well if certain people think the movie is going to suck then that is their business. They have every right to let the world know their opinion. My thing is, how many times do you have to let someone know your opinion ? I can pretty much pick out a handful of people who no matter what kind of information we receive on the movie, will always come in and post comments filled with negativity but really their just saying the same things over and over again. I can see people that are neutral discussing the movie, people that are skeptical discussing the movie, but if you hate the idea of this movie and think it's going to "blow chunks" then why are you following the movie ? We all know how you feel about it !

It's like we've all been friends for years and we're all at a birthday party. We all KNOW by now you don't like chocolate cake but you have a slice anyway and make us listen to you complain about it ! Seriously we're all sitting here trying to enjoy some cake and certain people are like "Well I don't like it, I think it sucks and it's not true to the source material in the cook book. *stick tongue out*" and we're like "Dude we know you don't like it. You've made it VERY clear how you feel about it."

SO! In conclusion, If you don't like cake then let us know and you don't have to eat it. However don't come to the party and aggravate people with well your well known opinions about it !

Then to the Pro-movie people, Why argue about it ? Clearly at this point they are just trying to aggravate you with their opinions. If they say something negative about this movie that's their opinion about. Somebody says "This movie is going to suck guys. Sorry it just is." and then certain posters will swoop down on the person like their the god damn "Happy Police". That's how arguments get started and threads just spin outta control. The best way to deal with haters is to either agree with them just to get them to shut up or ignore them. "Oh this movie is gonna suck ? Alright ! Anyways...." That's it. It's that simple.

[Onikage725]

Haha, very well said.

[SonEric84]

Okay, I kind of see what you're saying, but at the same time to say everyone has a negative opinion just to piss off the people that like the idea is just wrong. I don't really see anyone coming in here to do that, they're expressing their opinion in the same way that the movie lovers are. Basically you're saying that anyone with a negative opinion should be written off, but act like all opinions are equal, so which one is it? I don't really see why the pro-movie crowd has to get their panties in a twist, if they're so happy about this movie they shouldn't worry about what anyone else thinks. As for the arguments where pro-movie people are all "wait till there's a trailer before you say anything!" shouldn't you be doing the same thing before you praise it? We all have different views and that's fine, no point in arguing about them. Like if it you like it, hate it, or be indifferent. Whatever.