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Post by JulieYBM » Mon Sep 01, 2008 4:10 pm

I hate having to constantly bring this sort of thing up but is there a accurate and complete list of power levels? I know there's videos on YT but I'm weary and frankly I'm more interested in the battle levels of characters like pre-Nail fusion Piccolo and Gohan after all healings etc. Espicially Vegeta when he fought final form Freeza.

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Post by Forgotten Hero » Mon Sep 01, 2008 4:28 pm

I like this one a lot!
Here you go!
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Re: Looking for complete and accurate battle power list

Post by Rocketman » Mon Sep 01, 2008 4:50 pm

JulieYBM wrote:I hate having to constantly bring this sort of thing up but is there a accurate and complete list of power levels? I know there's videos on YT but I'm weary and frankly I'm more interested in the battle levels of characters like pre-Nail fusion Piccolo and Gohan after all healings etc. Espicially Vegeta when he fought final form Freeza.

Thanks!
None of those have official power levels. So no, there isn't.

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Post by JulieYBM » Mon Sep 01, 2008 4:51 pm

Forgotten Hero wrote:I like this one a lot!
Here you go!
It is from MFG, or My Favorite Games.
Those...aren't accurate. :wink:

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JulieYBM wrote:I hate having to constantly bring this sort of thing up but is there a accurate and complete list of power levels? I know there's videos on YT but I'm weary and frankly I'm more interested in the battle levels of characters like pre-Nail fusion Piccolo and Gohan after all healings etc. Espicially Vegeta when he fought final form Freeza.

Thanks!
None of those have official power levels. So no, there isn't.
Ah, really? Shucks. Well, if there is anything else that is accurate or pretty much an official list of correct PLs I'd appreciate having (this time I'm friggin' saving them in a file).

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Post by Herms » Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:18 pm

Here's a list Tyro made of all the battle powers given in the manga.
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Post by johnboy1 » Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:19 pm

On a serious note, I compiled what I believe is every power level ever given, be it in the manga, the anime, the daizenshuus, or the movies. There may be one or two mistakes in the movie and daizenshuu sections, but I don't think so.

Still, it's far from complete, but if you want to make your own, this is definitely the framework you should use.

EDIT: Well, it might be helpful if I actually included the link, don't you think?

http://db.schuby.org/daizex/viewtopic.php?t=1064
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Post by SSj_Rambo » Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:32 pm

Personally I'm just going to wait for Herms and Hujio to do their translation of Daizenshuu 7.

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Post by Herms » Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:41 pm

I actually did a translation of Daizenshuu 7's battle power chart, so I might as well post it here:
Son Goku: Trajectory of Battle Power Growth
Son Goku came to meet various friends and enemies, and overtook them in battle. Here you can follow the change in Goku’s battle power from meeting Bulma and beginning his journey, to when he became a Super Saiyan on Planet Namek.

Disclosing Son Goku’s battle power up until the battle with Freeza
At a very young age, Goku demonstrated the power of a martial arts master. However, the blood of the fighting race Saiyans pushed Goku on towards even further battles. The increase of the warriors’ battle power readings knew no stopping, and before you knew it the battles surpassed the limits of martial arts and ended up with the fate of the world riding on them.

First Appearance: 10
He already has twice the power of an ordinary person. What’s more, his body is tough enough to repel a gun’s bullet.

Oozaru: 100
His battle power becoming ten times its usual, he can even pulverize a 30 cm thick steel wall. His has the destructive power of a battleship’s main gun.

22nd Tenkaichi Budoukai: 180
Experiencing much training and battle, his ability has substantially increased. His loosing the championship was merely a difference in fate between him and Tenshinhan.

Kame-sennin (Jacky Chun): 139
He powered up through training that he kept secret from his pupils. He brilliantly fulfilled his role building a bridge to a new era.

Tsuru-sennin: 120
The man who had previously competed with Kame-sennin as a rival. However, in actual ability it seems Kame-sennin has a slight lead on him.

Tenshinhan: 180
He attacks Goku with superhuman high-level techniques and power. Their contest is practically even.

Versus Piccolo Daimao: 260
Having drunken the Super God Water and awoken his hidden power, his ability becomes on par with Piccolo Daimao. The death-match develops with Tenshinhan’s assistance.

Piccolo Daimao : 260
With his youth restored, he becomes even more powerful. His power, which easily blows away a city, rivals that of a small nuclear bomb.

Versus Raditz: 416
At the appearance of an unprecedented strong opponent, he teams up with Piccolo. However, in a serious battle it’s no contest, and in exchange for victory Goku loses his life.

Piccolo: 408
Unfastening the training equipment, he stands to fight at full power. The Makankosappo that he fires from his fingertips is equivalent to 1,330.

Son Gohan : 1~1,307
Although it changes greatly based on his emotions, his hidden power already surpasses his father Goku. He is still four years old.

Kuririn : 206
Through straightforward training and talent that’s first-rate for Earthlings, he has surpassed his master Kame-sennin. Afterwards, he holds up on the frontlines of battle.

Raditz: 1,500
He toys with Goku and Piccolo with incredible power and speed. However, nevertheless he is a low-level warrior.

Versus Vegeta: 8,000
Receiving training from Kaio, his ability has revolutionarily increased. From this time onwards, the Kaio-ken and Genki-dama become Goku’s reliable weapons.

Nappa: 4,000
Saibaiman: 1,200
Vegeta: 18,000

Kuririn: 1,770
Yamcha: 1,480
Chaozu: 610
Tenshinhan: 1,830
Piccolo: 3,500
Son Gohan: 2,800

Kaio-ken x4: 32,000

Arrival on Planet Namek: 90,000
Training under gravity a 100 times that of Earth, he breaks down the limit of the Saiyans of the past. With the Kaio-ken as well, he becomes able to endure up to x10.

Son Gohan: 14,000
Kuririn: 13,000
Vegeta: 30,000

Versus Freeza: 3 million
As a result of having his wounded body restored in a medical treatment machine, Goku achieves a super power-up that surprises even him. Awakening his pride as a Saiyan, he faces the decisive battle.

Freeza 50%: 60 million
Freeza 100%: 120 million
He transforms into his final form, and overwhelms Goku with half of his ability. However, he unleashes his full power at the appearance of the Super Saiyan.

Super Saiyan: 150 million
The legendary warrior Super Saiyan finally awakens. As well as having battle power 50 times that of his normal state, he overwhelms even Freeza.

What about the change in Goku’s battle power after that?
Even after the battle with Freeza, formidable enemies that surpassed human knowledge appeared before Goku one after the other. The power-ups from having wounds healed became small*, but transformations and fusions came to increase the battle power of Goku and the others. To the point where they could no longer be gauged with numerical values…

*the way this is phrased [sukunakunatta], it could either mean they became small or they became infrequent.
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Post by Super Saiyan Turlast x4 » Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:50 pm

That was awesome, Herms! Thanks for posting that.
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Post by Pain » Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:53 pm

So he still got the power ups? I knew it. Even if they were minimal, it still matters.
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Post by JulieYBM » Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:55 pm

Herms wrote:I actually did a translation of Daizenshuu 7's battle power chart, so I might as well post it here:
Son Goku: Trajectory of Battle Power Growth
Son Goku came to meet various friends and enemies, and overtook them in battle. Here you can follow the change in Goku’s battle power from meeting Bulma and beginning his journey, to when he became a Super Saiyan on Planet Namek.

Disclosing Son Goku’s battle power up until the battle with Freeza
At a very young age, Goku demonstrated the power of a martial arts master. However, the blood of the fighting race Saiyans pushed Goku on towards even further battles. The increase of the warriors’ battle power readings knew no stopping, and before you knew it the battles surpassed the limits of martial arts and ended up with the fate of the world riding on them.

First Appearance: 10
He already has twice the power of an ordinary person. What’s more, his body is tough enough to repel a gun’s bullet.

Oozaru: 100
His battle power becoming ten times its usual, he can even pulverize a 30 cm thick steel wall. His has the destructive power of a battleship’s main gun.

22nd Tenkaichi Budoukai: 180
Experiencing much training and battle, his ability has substantially increased. His loosing the championship was merely a difference in fate between him and Tenshinhan.

Kame-sennin (Jacky Chun): 139
He powered up through training that he kept secret from his pupils. He brilliantly fulfilled his role building a bridge to a new era.

Tsuru-sennin: 120
The man who had previously competed with Kame-sennin as a rival. However, in actual ability it seems Kame-sennin has a slight lead on him.

Tenshinhan: 180
He attacks Goku with superhuman high-level techniques and power. Their contest is practically even.

Versus Piccolo Daimao: 260
Having drunken the Super God Water and awoken his hidden power, his ability becomes on par with Piccolo Daimao. The death-match develops with Tenshinhan’s assistance.

Piccolo Daimao : 260
With his youth restored, he becomes even more powerful. His power, which easily blows away a city, rivals that of a small nuclear bomb.

Versus Raditz: 416
At the appearance of an unprecedented strong opponent, he teams up with Piccolo. However, in a serious battle it’s no contest, and in exchange for victory Goku loses his life.

Piccolo: 408
Unfastening the training equipment, he stands to fight at full power. The Makankosappo that he fires from his fingertips is equivalent to 1,330.

Son Gohan : 1~1,307
Although it changes greatly based on his emotions, his hidden power already surpasses his father Goku. He is still four years old.

Kuririn : 206
Through straightforward training and talent that’s first-rate for Earthlings, he has surpassed his master Kame-sennin. Afterwards, he holds up on the frontlines of battle.

Raditz: 1,500
He toys with Goku and Piccolo with incredible power and speed. However, nevertheless he is a low-level warrior.

Versus Vegeta: 8,000
Receiving training from Kaio, his ability has revolutionarily increased. From this time onwards, the Kaio-ken and Genki-dama become Goku’s reliable weapons.

Nappa: 4,000
Saibaiman: 1,200
Vegeta: 18,000

Kuririn: 1,770
Yamcha: 1,480
Chaozu: 610
Tenshinhan: 1,830
Piccolo: 3,500
Son Gohan: 2,800

Kaio-ken x4: 32,000

Arrival on Planet Namek: 90,000
Training under gravity a 100 times that of Earth, he breaks down the limit of the Saiyans of the past. With the Kaio-ken as well, he becomes able to endure up to x10.

Son Gohan: 14,000
Kuririn: 13,000
Vegeta: 30,000

Versus Freeza: 3 million
As a result of having his wounded body restored in a medical treatment machine, Goku achieves a super power-up that surprises even him. Awakening his pride as a Saiyan, he faces the decisive battle.

Freeza 50%: 60 million
Freeza 100%: 120 million
He transforms into his final form, and overwhelms Goku with half of his ability. However, he unleashes his full power at the appearance of the Super Saiyan.

Super Saiyan: 150 million
The legendary warrior Super Saiyan finally awakens. As well as having battle power 50 times that of his normal state, he overwhelms even Freeza.

What about the change in Goku’s battle power after that?
Even after the battle with Freeza, formidable enemies that surpassed human knowledge appeared before Goku one after the other. The power-ups from having wounds healed became small*, but transformations and fusions came to increase the battle power of Goku and the others. To the point where they could no longer be gauged with numerical values…

*the way this is phrased [sukunakunatta], it could either mean they became small or they became infrequent.
So this is the complete list? :shock: I don't think Son Gokû's battle power from his fight against Raditz is listed...may I take it as the the staff being lazy?

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Post by Super Saiyan Turlast x4 » Mon Sep 01, 2008 10:01 pm

It says Goku's power is 416 against Raditz. Are you referring to the 924 Kame-Hame-Ha power rating?
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Post by johnboy1 » Mon Sep 01, 2008 10:06 pm

Yeah, that list doesn't have all the levels ever given on it. But my list does *leans back smugly, smoking his bubble pipe*.

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Post by Herms » Mon Sep 01, 2008 10:49 pm

Yeah, that's the whole list from Daizenshuu 7. One thing to keep in mind is that, as the title says, it's supposed to be a chart of how Goku's battle power grows through the series, and not a complete list of every battle power number ever given. For the rest, pretty much all of them are given in the bios for each character; so for instance, Ginyu's bio notes his battle power of 120,000. It even gives estimations for Dodoria and Zarbon (around 22,000 for Dodoria, and about 23,000 for Zarbon in his normal form).
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Post by Kaboom » Mon Sep 01, 2008 10:52 pm

What about the change in Goku’s battle power after that?
Even after the battle with Freeza, formidable enemies that surpassed human knowledge appeared before Goku one after the other. The power-ups from having wounds healed became small*, but transformations and fusions came to increase the battle power of Goku and the others. To the point where they could no longer be gauged with numerical values…
Let's start spreading this to the rest of the internet right f***ing now.
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Post by SSJ2bardock » Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:33 am

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What about the change in Goku’s battle power after that?
Even after the battle with Freeza, formidable enemies that surpassed human knowledge appeared before Goku one after the other. The power-ups from having wounds healed became small*, but transformations and fusions came to increase the battle power of Goku and the others. To the point where they could no longer be gauged with numerical values…
Let's start spreading this to the rest of the internet right f***ing now.
I'm not understaning, where you being sarcastic? I thought that was a really good explanation.
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Post by Kaboom » Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:42 am

SSJ2bardock wrote:I'm not understaning, where you being sarcastic? I thought that was a really good explanation.
No, I (kinda) mean it, and yes, the point is that it IS a very good explanation, and kind of obvious to see for yourself when you go through the series.

But there's a LOT of wacky thinking out there by various maniacal fan goups who come up with all these bizarre and over-complicated theories about power levels, and twisting around how Kaio-Ken works, and about Super Saiyan losing its power over time and being reduced to a smaller "multiplier... Ugh.

Usually it's solely for the purpose of forcing their power level lists and such to work. We've got it good here at Daizex, where such things aren't as "important." But in the depths of other DragonBall communities, you have NO idea how many stupid arguments would be instantly dissolved by this tidbit, that "after becoming a Super Saiyan, healing increases become much smaller, and power is gained mostly by fusions and new transformations." And that last bit, about "no longer able to gauge with numerical values..." Oh man, how many heads would spin.
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Post by Captain Awesome » Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:54 am

I actually bought Dragonball Forever because of the BP chart it has.

Also because it was pretty.

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