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[SSJ2bardock]

Cross-eyed Gohan begs to differ

I don't think he looks cross-eyed in that image.

I know, I was just trying to prove a point.

[fps_anth]

Every fandom has it's problems. I know we're not on the level of unwarranted bitchiness like I've seen examples of in the deeper Naruto and Death Note fandoms (both of which I avoid like the plague, even though I like the series themselves to some degree), but in my opinion, it's still getting pretty bad. Even with DragonBall, Daizex is already the only place I let myself get involved in.

People are complaining about Naruto and Death Note? Naruto manga gets released like diarrhea coming out of my ass, while One Piece gets the constipated treatment. 1 volume every 4 months? For a series with 50 volumes already? Jesus!

As for Death Note, the entire manga is released and is pretty much flawless. The DVDs have a steady release going on right now, and have both standard and limited editions of every volume. Not to shabby if you ask me.


No one has it as bad as us (the DB community) when it comes to awful releases. I agree with you when you say that bitching about it is going to do nothing, but hey, it's run to RAGEEEEE over FUNimation's screw ups. It's to the point where I expect them to do something extremely stupid. And when they do, I just laugh my ass off.

[Kid Trunks]

Cross-eyed Gohan begs to differ

I don't think he looks cross-eyed in that image.

I know, I was just trying to prove a point.

Oh. Was your point "Vegeta's about as cross-eyed as this image of Gohan"? Because if it was, I agree.

[Kid Trunks]

Yeah. Basically, I agree that bitching about Funi is pretty pointless. Even making a constructive argument against the releases is needless, seeing as how its been done to death by now. Its just that, given the situation, and given that fact that Funi still haven't put out a genuinely decent release (nor does it look like they ever will), its feels like you only have two options; bitch and moan, or roll over and take it up the ass...Hence a lot of people still moan about it.

EDIT: accidentally double posted, meant to edit my previous one.

[SSJ2bardock]

I don't think he looks cross-eyed in that image.

I know, I was just trying to prove a point.

Oh. Was your point "Vegeta's about as cross-eyed as this image of Gohan"? Because if it was, I agree.

That's exactly what my point was.

[Kaboom]

People are complaining about Naruto and Death Note? Naruto manga gets released like diarrhea coming out of my ass, while One Piece gets the constipated treatment. 1 volume every 4 months? For a series with 50 volumes already? Jesus!

As for Death Note, the entire manga is released and is pretty much flawless. The DVDs have a steady release going on right now, and have both standard and limited editions of every volume. Not to shabby if you ask me.

I've heard lots of cases of Naruto fans being perfectionists, overly criticizing the English voices because they don't perfectly match the Japanese (I agree I've come to hate Naruto himself's English voice [not the actress, the voice itself, just to clarify], but still... HOW can you argue against Guy's awesome English voice?), as well as dissing the translations, insisting that they keep all the attack names and such in Japanese, even when it's easily translatable. In a nutshell, nitpicky stuff. Same kind of deal with Death Note. They want for "Yagami Raito" to say "SAKUJO!," not for "Light Yagami" to say "Deleted!" In English.



"Sakujo" is Japanese for "delete," FYI.

[SSJ2bardock]

*Shaking head* Spoiled little sons of b......

Some of the newer age anime fans are a little spoiled.

[NeptuneKai]

People are complaining about Naruto and Death Note? Naruto manga gets released like diarrhea coming out of my ass, while One Piece gets the constipated treatment. 1 volume every 4 months? For a series with 50 volumes already? Jesus!

As for Death Note, the entire manga is released and is pretty much flawless. The DVDs have a steady release going on right now, and have both standard and limited editions of every volume. Not to shabby if you ask me.

I've heard lots of cases of Naruto fans being perfectionists, overly criticizing the English voices because they don't perfectly match the Japanese (I agree I've come to hate Naruto himself's English voice [not the actress, the voice itself, just to clarify], but still... HOW can you argue against Guy's awesome English voice?), as well as dissing the translations, insisting that they keep all the attack names and such in Japanese, even when it's easily translatable. In a nutshell, nitpicky stuff. Same kind of deal with Death Note. They want for "Yagami Raito" to say "SAKUJO!," not for "Light Yagami" to say "Deleted!" In English.



"Sakujo" is Japanese for "delete," FYI.

So Basically they want official manga to look like bad fansubs?
Sometimes I hate anime fans, I know the term "weaboo" is really touchy around here but when someone leaves easily translatable Japanese words in their English translation just because "it's super Kawaii baka desu ne ^_^;!!" well....that seems like the dreaded "w" word to me.

[fps_anth]

Same kind of deal with Death Note. They want for "Yagami Raito" to say "SAKUJO!," not for "Light Yagami" to say "Deleted!" In English.



"Sakujo" is Japanese for "delete," FYI.

That's Mikami

But yeah, I know what you're saying now. Like the whole "Just as planned!" thing. They ended up using "Exactly as planned" instead, and all the fans got butthurt.

Including myself. That line was too fucking epic! I wish they left it, but honestly, it's really no big deal. It means that same thing.

I know it's been mentioned, but I think the main problem with this is that an 8 year old could make a better cover than this. One FUNimation employee could take ten minutes to paste an image of Majin Vegeta or Babidi and everything would be completely fine. But for some reason...they put Piccolo charging a Makkankosappo? Why? We wouldn't be arguing about this right now if they just put a god damn image that was relevant to the episodes!

Whatever. I'm still gonna buy this no matter what they put on the cover. It's just gonna look retarted being my seventh season as opposed to maybe my first season, where the image would have made sence.

[JulieYBM]

Unless the original writes it in English it's fair game.

[Kaboom]

Unless the original writes it in English it's fair game.

I hear you. Unless something REALLY works better in Japanese, (For example, "Rasengan" and "Chidori" work much better as quick, succinct attack names than "Spiraly Energy Ball" or "One Thousand Birds"). But when a simple, common-use word is easily translated, then go for it. Like in One Piece, I've come to despise the word "nakama." It's not any more special a word JUST because it's kept in Japanese.

Then again, in contrast, it's not just English. To use One Piece as an example again, a lot of the characters' attack names and such are in a specific language for a reason, and shouldn't be translated. For example, I don't want to hear Robin say "Hundred Flowers" instead of "Cien Fleur," and Zoro's attack names are all double-meaning, Japanese food puns, and with him being "just like a Samurai," (YO YO YO) it seems more appropriate for his attack names to remain in Japanese.

[Raki]

*Shaking head* Spoiled little sons of b......

Some of the newer age anime fans are a little spoiled.

They need a fucking reality check. Joining the Dragonball fandom would give them one.

[Super Ghost Kamikaze]

*Shaking head* Spoiled little sons of b......

Some of the newer age anime fans are a little spoiled.

They need a fucking reality check. Joining the Dragonball fandom would give them one.

Do you forget the 90s?

Do you not know what these people are like?

I'd rather avoid it. We had our snotty fan turn. Let these new cartoons have theirs. -_-

[rackhami]

Like in One Piece, I've come to despise the word "nakama." It's not any more special a word JUST because it's kept in Japanese.

I've always assumed they chose to retain "nakama" simply because it's a difficult word to translate, given there isn't a direct English equivalent available and the alternative English translations that are available don't necessarily convey the meaning and the connotations of its usage. I do recognize that this is entirely a matter of taste. I like "nakama" and I think keeping it as is, is the lesser of two evils - but again, that's just my personal preference.

[Kaboom]

I've always assumed they chose to retain "nakama" simply because it's a difficult word to translate, given there isn't a direct English equivalent available and the alternative English translations that are available don't necessarily convey the meaning and the connotations of its usage. I do recognize that this is entirely a matter of taste. I like "nakama" and I think keeping it as is, is the lesser of two evils - but again, that's just my personal preference.

There are plenty of acceptable translations, and picking an appropriate one is simply a matter of mood and context. Shipmate, comrade, ally, friend, team, etc...

[Captain Awesome]

There are plenty of acceptable translations, and picking an appropriate one is simply a matter of mood and context. Shipmate, comrade, ally, friend, team, etc...

I couldn't agree more.

..Fucking fansubbers.

Hurry up and release more One Piece FUNimation!

[Herms]

nakama isn't any more difficult to translate than dozens upon dozens of other Japanese words whose best English equivalents vary depending on the context. You get the same sort of thing when translating any language into any other langauge. Translating nakama is actually pretty easy compared to translating certain concepts like ganbatte, whose meaning is tied up with ingrained aspects of Japanese culture that are hard to convey.

[rackhami]

There are plenty of acceptable translations, and picking an appropriate one is simply a matter of mood and context. Shipmate, comrade, ally, friend, team, etc... :?

For me it's really just a matter of personal preference. I certainly prefer "nakama" and I don't think English translations satisfactorily convey the full connotations of the term, but I don't really mind the English translations used in official publications. Certainly it's preferable to the "avoid as much English as possible!" mindset prevelant among some of the more popular fansubbers and scanlators.

Editing to say: ha! I stand corrected. This is what I get for pretending I know what I'm talking about. *g* My apologies!

(And apologies for taking this all off-topic as well.)

[Tsukento]

Oh WHY did you guys have to bring up the whole nakama bit with One Piece?

It's bad enough I have to put up with a bunch of rambling morons who take all of the fansubs of One Piece literally and think Chopper shoots out nothing but swears out of his tiny mouth, or how they think "Gum-Gum" is a "terrible translation" of Gomu Gomu no.


BUUUUUUUUUT on the main subject about the cover, we all seem to forget that while Piccolo may have a part in the Boo portion of the series, this set DOESN'T cover the Boo portion. We still haven't gotten to the Other World Tournament, the Great Saiyaman or even the Junior Division of the 25th Tenkaichi Budokai. That's 25 episodes right there that will be covered in Season 7 (episodes 194 - 218).

Piccolo has absolutely no real role in any of these episodes asides from shitting himself when going up against Kaio-Shin.

Even if Toei didn't give them new art, it really makes me wish they still had access to all of the old art that made the old Pioneer-released VHS/DVD covers so damn awesome.

[Kunzait_83]

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