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Post by Daburcor » Wed Sep 03, 2008 2:49 am

Hmmm...




Still looks like trash to me... and I'm a big fan of James Marsters. I even own his CDs.

This movie is terrible. Yes; I said it IS terrible. Sometimes you don't have to see something to know it is shit, and this looks to fit the bill to me. They may as well have cast Van Damme as Goku...

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That's somewhat better, actually...
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Post by Saiyajin no Tatsujin » Wed Sep 03, 2008 3:13 am

So far, it isn't looking too good judging from the pics I've seen. For one, they shouldn't have tried to make Goku's hair look so identical to the original anime character. It doesn't look realistic, and it can't be taken seriously. If it were up to me, all of the Saiyans would have semi-long black hair (length and style would vary for each Saiyan, of course). And the hair wouldn't be so stiff as if they used a can of Royal Crown or something. It would hang down and move freely in the wind just like human hair.

When it comes to SSJ hair, I would just let it fly straight up as if a big fan were constantly blowing upwards underneath the Saiyan. It might look totally different from the anime, but at least it'll look realistic. And the SSJ hair wouldn't be gold in color (that also wouldn't be believable). My version of SSJ hair would be white in a live-action film. The bright golden aura surrounding the entire body would add a glowing effect to it (in daylight or not). And it would look freakin' awesome!

Alright, I'm done. 8)

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Post by Brad Redfield » Wed Sep 03, 2008 3:26 am

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...Heroes? :P

Goku's uniform and Kamesenin look cool...but that's about it. Piccolo reminds me of villian concept artwork for the X-Men movies.

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Post by JAPPO » Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:59 am

Most the people involved in this movie did X-Men 1-3.

That includes the make-up guys, the concept artists, and even one of the main producers.
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Post by Adey » Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:35 am

Goku's costume looks fantastic.
But Piccolo....


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Still, I have no doubt the role will be played pretty well, even if the appearance isn't up to scratch.

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Post by NeptuneKai » Wed Sep 03, 2008 7:22 am

I just saw "Piccolo" and all I could do was laugh. He's Piccolo in the exact same way Dennis Hopper was Bowser.

Just in case anyone missed it they have the Piccolo screens up on Spill
http://my.spill.com/profiles/blog/show? ... t%3A566690
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Post by Wojak » Wed Sep 03, 2008 7:54 am

You would have thought with what the make-up artists could do in Lord of the Rings, they could at least made Piccolo look like Piccolo in the anime or manga.
I mean, nobody asked them to cut off a finger on each hand of the actor, right?

ALL WE WANTED WAS A JOLLY F*CKING GREEN PICCOLO!

Not a vampire!


This would be very managable, anyone remember this picture?
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Budget problems? Easily fixed, only use simple make-up:

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F*ck yeah, that's more like it.
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Post by SonEric84 » Wed Sep 03, 2008 8:57 am

Heh...Those actually would be better alternatives.
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Post by snaku » Wed Sep 03, 2008 9:17 am

Well that's it. I've had it with Fox. Cloud Galactus was one thing, but this? That's not Piccolo. Screw you Fox!

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Post by Bura » Wed Sep 03, 2008 9:47 am

I actually got a better opinion of Justin Chatwin with these new caps, I also think Emmy Rossum looks pretty good, but I'm also very disappointed with Piccolo. I mean, I understand that they can't make Goku's hair exactly, but green skin shouldn't have been that hard right?

Anyway, I'm looking at this screencap and I'm noticing Roshi is lying on the ground? Maybe he just died there?

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And Goku is all like, "Oh Shenron, please revive my master!" Or something. or they're just training.

Any thoughts?

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Post by Undercooked Sausage » Wed Sep 03, 2008 9:49 am

Yeah I don't think I want to see the movie anymore. Piccolo is my favorite character and seeing him as a vampire albino would just offend me as a human being.

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Post by DB_Fan » Wed Sep 03, 2008 10:41 am

Goku looks great, and Roshi is good too. But Piccolo a.k.a. Mr. Big Green is not green at all. :?

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Post by omegacwa » Wed Sep 03, 2008 11:25 am

You guys all suck. Piccolo looks fine. I feel like a broken record here. Honestly, what did you people expect? You should be happy Marsters and Wong fought to have Piccolo look this way because from what I read he was originally not going to look close at all. For all we know he could be greener, it could just be lighting. But if it's not, who cares. Honestly you people are making the biggest deal out of nothing. And what happened to all the Chatwin haters, now he is ok just because of a couple of screenshots? You people flip flop all over the place.

Honestly I can't wait to see this movie. I don't even care if it's awful cause it is going to take a lot for it to be worse than the Magic Begins, and I actually like that movie.

And can people please stop saying, "Gah, Piccolo isn't the Vampire!!!" because I have already proved that Piccolo does in fact look like a FUCKING NOSFERATU STYLE VAMPIRE, so shut up.

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Post by Wojak » Wed Sep 03, 2008 11:34 am

omegacwa wrote:You guys all suck. Piccolo looks fine. I feel like a broken record here. Honestly, what did you people expect? You should be happy Marsters and Wong fought to have Piccolo look this way because from what I read he was originally not going to look close at all. For all we know he could be greener, it could just be lighting. But if it's not, who cares. Honestly you people are making the biggest deal out of nothing. And what happened to all the Chatwin haters, now he is ok just because of a couple of screenshots? You people flip flop all over the place.

Honestly I can't wait to see this movie. I don't even care if it's awful cause it is going to take a lot for it to be worse than the Magic Begins, and I actually like that movie.

And can people please stop saying, "Gah, Piccolo isn't the Vampire!!!" because I have already proved that Piccolo does in fact look like a FUCKING NOSFERATU STYLE VAMPIRE, so shut up.
No, Piccolo in Dragonball doesn't look like a Nosferatu style vampire, he looks like a Namekian from the Dragonball series.
Saying that would be like saying that I was a hobbit, because of Hobbits looking like humans.
The pictures of Piccolo I've seen look nothing like Piccolo, but his pointy ears and long nails.
Seriously, I'm glad that at least one of the series I'm a fan of turned out very decent: Lord of the Rings. The creator was also a fan and created a trilogy actually based on the books, that became a blast.
But I can say that Goku looks alright, because of that he at least has a gi that resembles his gi in Dragonball.
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Post by Kaboom » Wed Sep 03, 2008 11:35 am

My god... I don't know how much more of this incessant, childish whining I can take... :?

"This movie IS terrible because I said so," "Fox is ruining my fandom," Goku's hair is suddenly TOO much like the manga, "wah wah wah Piccolo," "I'm offended as a human being..." What? This shit over a movie?

What's going on here? Why, so many long months after we started getting information and pictures, is nobody STILL capable of realizing this is NOT the exact same thing as the manga and anime? The looks and details of some things ARE gonna get changed as the creators see fit, to make it look and work better as a live-action movie. THAT'S why Bulma doesn't have all-blue hair. THAT'S why Oolong and Puar aren't in it. THAT'S why Roshi doesn't have a beard bigger than his torso. THAT'S why Goku doesn't have 2-foot tall hair. And apparently, the creators have seen fit to adapt Piccolo's look a little differently than we expected.

It's different. Not "bad," just different. I've been keeping an open mind ever since the very day this movie was announced. I realized and expected some things to be different from the beginning, and adopted the mindset that I'd be okay with that, if it made it a better movie overall. So far, I'm being proven right.

I look at these promotional pics and these new screencaps, and what do I see? I see a well-made, ingenious martial arts, fantasy epic featuring live-action versions of my favorite characters. I see Goku gazing in wonder at a DragonBall in his hand. I see Goku (with great hair) training with Roshi. I see Goku getting angry and preparing to face off against one of the most badass incarnations of Piccolo Daimao I've ever seen. I see a group of monks sealing Piccolo into a jar. I see a solar eclipse that we know is going to heavily factor into the story somehow.

But some of you? All you can see is, "Waaah, Piccolo's not green. This movie is terrible."

Honestly... what? I can hardly believe what I'm reading here, and it's becoming sickening. You're all completely ignoring anything good or impressive-looking this movie has to offer, in favor of focusing on the bits you don't like, which are things that should have been expected from the getgo.

Would Piccolo being completely green with slug-like antennae work any better or look any less ridiculous than Bulma having blue hair? I don't really know one way or another. But apparently, the creators have some reason to change him like this, so I trust them. He still looks really good, Piccolo-like, and we know James Marsters is gonna deliver the performance of his life playing it. So I can deal with him being a paler, more yellowed shade of green.

But some of you people are acting as if a group of FOX executives came to your house and raped your entire family. For god's sake, no. They're just adapting your favorite cartoon into a movie, and they happened to make a few inevitable changes that YOU didn't like. It's not going to affect your fandom or the franchise or the original manga AT ALL. So grow up and deal with it.


On the plus side, thanks to the complete and utter lack of any trace of it in the trailer screencaps, I don't see anyone pissing and moaning about the school anymore. :P
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Post by Herms » Wed Sep 03, 2008 11:39 am

omegacwa wrote:You should be happy Marsters and Wong fought to have Piccolo look this way because from what I read he was originally not going to look close at all.
Perhaps that is the original version of Piccolo, that Marsters fought to have changed to something closer to the original. Perhaps Piccolo changes over the course of the movie, like in a Daimao to Ma Junior kind of thing, with the Ma Junior design looking more like the original?
And what happened to all the Chatwin haters, now he is ok just because of a couple of screenshots? You people flip flop all over the place.
There's nothing wrong with changing your mind.
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Post by omegacwa » Wed Sep 03, 2008 11:41 am

Wojak wrote:
omegacwa wrote:You guys all suck. Piccolo looks fine. I feel like a broken record here. Honestly, what did you people expect? You should be happy Marsters and Wong fought to have Piccolo look this way because from what I read he was originally not going to look close at all. For all we know he could be greener, it could just be lighting. But if it's not, who cares. Honestly you people are making the biggest deal out of nothing. And what happened to all the Chatwin haters, now he is ok just because of a couple of screenshots? You people flip flop all over the place.

Honestly I can't wait to see this movie. I don't even care if it's awful cause it is going to take a lot for it to be worse than the Magic Begins, and I actually like that movie.

And can people please stop saying, "Gah, Piccolo isn't the Vampire!!!" because I have already proved that Piccolo does in fact look like a FUCKING NOSFERATU STYLE VAMPIRE, so shut up.
No, Piccolo in Dragonball doesn't look like a Nosferatu style vampire, he looks like a Namekian from the Dragonball series.
Saying that would be like saying that I was a hobbit, because hobbits look like humans.
Wow, what are you, completely closed minded? Go back and read my previous posts, I have shown how there is a direct comparison. Are you trying to say that two things from different genres can't look similar? WOW

EDIT: oh and to Herms, sorry, I am just fed up with how bizzarely closed minded people can be.

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Post by Bardock the Mexican » Wed Sep 03, 2008 11:55 am

Well, what can I say about this that hasn't already been daid. Oh yes...what will the videogame/promo crap/etc other stuff vaguely related to the movie be like? Can we even dare to guess or is it just going to make my head explode? Can we risk that?
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Post by Wojak » Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:06 pm

omegacwa wrote: Wow, what are you, completely closed minded? Go back and read my previous posts, I have shown how there is a direct comparison. Are you trying to say that two things from different genres can't look similar? WOW

EDIT: oh and to Herms, sorry, I am just fed up with how bizzarely closed minded people can be.
Yes I have read your posts.
And again, I, with my personal views, don't think that Piccolo looks like Nosferatu. Again, saying they look alike is like saying I look like a hobbit.

If I alter one of your posts:

Honestly, there are many comparisons in appearance between Piccolo and a Nosferatu style vampire.

Bald, Check
Fangs, Check
Discolored Skin (IE not normal), Check
Protruding Skeletal Structure in the face, check
Claw Like hands, Check.


to:

Honestly, there are many comparisons in appearance between Wojak and a hobbit.

Hairy, Check
Chubby, Check
Short, Check
Rounded cheeks, check
Hands with thick fingers, Check.

I may have those attributes, but still, I don't look like a hobbit and shouldn't be portrayed as one.
Piccolo doesn't look like a vampire to me and I think that he shouldn't look like one in the Live action movie.

And another thing you have failed to notice is that people think different. If all thought the same, there wouldn't be a discussion.
Stop raging at people disliking Piccolo's design in the movie.
It's not that I have called you stupid because of your opinions.
This isn't like a "Spread your love about the Live action movie thread", but a "Live action movie thread".

I have heard you people here bash decent Dragonball videogames that are more alike in the story and design Dragonball-wise than the Live action movie, but when it comes to this subject, we bashers are childish morons.

...right :roll:

This movie may be the ultimate Dragonball project and may even be the best thing I've watched, but for the moment, all I have are the pictures, and I don't like those of Piccolo, and the discussion goes on...
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Post by SonEric84 » Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:07 pm

You know, the best part is the pro-movie fanatics are going to be the people who get this thread closed down. People are allowed to dislike it, no one's telling you how to feel about it, so just deal with it.
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