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Super Ghost Kamikaze · Post by **Super Ghost Kamikaze** » Fri Sep 05, 2008 10:30 pm

Gozar wrote: Besides, what will attract the common fan to the shelves more? A kick ass Piccolo shot...Or Saiyaman doing an odd Ginyu inspired pose?

...I *like* Saiyaman. And Ginyu, for that matter. I honestly think Saiyaman is quite possibly the greatest and most awesome thing to come out of Gohan. And Ginyu and the Ginyu Force were just plain awesome.

Gozar · Post by **Gozar** » Fri Sep 05, 2008 10:50 pm

Super Ghost Kamikaze wrote:
Gozar wrote: Besides, what will attract the common fan to the shelves more? A kick ass Piccolo shot...Or Saiyaman doing an odd Ginyu inspired pose?
...I *like* Saiyaman. And Ginyu, for that matter. I honestly think Saiyaman is quite possibly the greatest and most awesome thing to come out of Gohan. And Ginyu and the Ginyu Force were just plain awesome.

*Cough*Common Fan*cough*

Let's be realistic here...The common fan considers Saiyaman to be a huge...dork.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:16 pm

Gozar wrote:Let's be realistic here...The common fan considers Saiyaman to be a huge...dork.

That's because he is a huge dork. Even Piccolo thinks so.

Remix · Post by **Remix** » Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:16 pm

I'd like to see Ronald McDonald on the final cover.

It would only be half as lame as Saiyaman.

C'mon. Its Piccolo. I'm happy.

Forgotten Hero · Post by **Forgotten Hero** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 1:18 am

They should have just stuck with Majin Vegeta! I thought that was a perfect cover! But no!

SSJ2bardock · Post by **SSJ2bardock** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 1:20 am

Forgotten Hero wrote:They should have just stuck with Majin Vegeta! I thought that was a perfect cover! But no!

You'd still have people complaining about him not being relevant though, cause he's not in this set...

Super Ghost Kamikaze · Post by **Super Ghost Kamikaze** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 2:14 am

Gozar wrote:
Super Ghost Kamikaze wrote:
Gozar wrote: Besides, what will attract the common fan to the shelves more? A kick ass Piccolo shot...Or Saiyaman doing an odd Ginyu inspired pose?
...I *like* Saiyaman. And Ginyu, for that matter. I honestly think Saiyaman is quite possibly the greatest and most awesome thing to come out of Gohan. And Ginyu and the Ginyu Force were just plain awesome.
*Cough*Common Fan*cough*

Let's be realistic here...The common fan considers Saiyaman to be a huge...dork.

Yes, Gohan is being a dork when he dons the Saiyaman costume. This is what makes the whole thing so amazingly great. It's hilarious, and it's charming. The whole thing is hilarious, and that's why it's great. Dragonball as a whole tends to be about fun and adventure. Honestly, Saiyaman fits Dragonball's overall spirit more than any superawesome ohshit muscles n' veins Super Saiyan.

Gozar · Post by **Gozar** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 2:21 am

Honestly, Saiyaman fits Dragonball's overall spirit more than any superawesome ohshit muscles n' veins Super Saiyan.

The early days of DragonBall yes...But not Piccolo Daimao and on. Which come on, we all know that with the "Saiyaman Saga" stuff Toriyama was trying to go back to his roots for a while. Yes the later stuff still had some comedy. But when you think DBZ, you don't think funny poses and comedy. You think action.

Super Ghost Kamikaze · Post by **Super Ghost Kamikaze** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 2:30 am

Gozar wrote:
Honestly, Saiyaman fits Dragonball's overall spirit more than any superawesome ohshit muscles n' veins Super Saiyan.
The early days of DragonBall yes...But not Piccolo Daimao and on. Which come on, we all know that with the "Saiyaman Saga" stuff Toriyama was trying to go back to his roots for a while. Yes the later stuff still had some comedy. But when you think DBZ, you don't think funny poses and comedy. You think action.

Don't presume to know what I think.

Saiyan arc: King Kai and his training was one big joke. The whole afterlife was a big joke. We had a lot of funny stuff with Gohan and his training.

Namek/Frieza: Ginyu was hilarious, with his poses and everything. Switching with a frog? That was a joke. There was plenty of funny stuff in there.

Android/Cell: We had Mr. Satan. We had the way the Androids acted in some parts, which I found to be funny. There was a lot of light-hearted stuff to the Goku/Gohan training.

Buu: This whole thing was pretty funny. Lots of Mr. Satan. Buu turns people into candy. Buu was a funny character overall. Even Babidi had his bits of fun jokes. Goten and Trunks were funny. Gotenks attacks included the Super Ghost Kamikaze, the doughnut attack, and that whole fight was full of fun little attacks. The elder Kai's whole story was funny. Lots of fushion jokes with the Grand Kai.

I'm only referring to the bigger jokes overall, but it's ridiculous to say that Z ever once slacked on humor.

Gozar · Post by **Gozar** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 3:04 am

Certainly you're not claiming Z to be as humorous as DB. All I'm saying is that DragonBall was a comedic adventure series. While Z was much more focused on the fighting with the humor much more to the side as opposed to DB up to the 22'nd Budokai.

What I mean about the Saiyaman Saga is that Toriyama went back to his older style...Little kids humorously shocking the established fighters and some wacky comedy.

Super Ghost Kamikaze · Post by **Super Ghost Kamikaze** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 3:08 am

Gozar wrote:Certainly you're not claiming Z to be as humorous as DB. All I'm saying is that DragonBall was a comedic adventure series. While Z was much more focused on the fighting with the humor much more to the side as opposed to DB up to the 22'nd Budokai.

What I mean about the Saiyaman Saga is that Toriyama went back to his older style...Little kids humorously shocking the established fighters and some wacky comedy.

Which is precisely why it's awesome. Yes, I understand the focus SHIFTED slightly. It went from a gag manga with plenty of action to an action manga with plenty of gags.

I am saying that I think of the humor and character development when I think of DBZ. Sure, there is a more centralized action focus, but the humor is there.

And I really like the Saiyaman saga, it has to be one of my favorites in all of Z. If the rest of the manga had continued in this vein, I could have quite possibly thought of the Buu saga as the best in the whole series.

Gozar · Post by **Gozar** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 3:14 am

Super Ghost Kamikaze wrote: Yes, I understand the focus SHIFTED slightly. It went from a gag manga with plenty of action to an action manga with plenty of gags.

Then we're in agreement. All I was trying to say was the common fan would be more attracted to an action shot of Piccolo then a silly Saiyaman pose.

Super Ghost Kamikaze · Post by **Super Ghost Kamikaze** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 3:24 am

Gozar wrote:
Super Ghost Kamikaze wrote: Yes, I understand the focus SHIFTED slightly. It went from a gag manga with plenty of action to an action manga with plenty of gags.
Then we're in agreement. All I was trying to say was the common fan would be more attracted to an action shot of Piccolo then a silly Saiyaman pose.

Which I disagree with.

I think the average fan would prefer Saiayaman on the Saiyaman arc box over having Piccolo from the Saiyan Saga on the Saiyaman arc box.

Gozar · Post by **Gozar** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 3:45 am

Super Ghost Kamikaze wrote:
Gozar wrote:
Super Ghost Kamikaze wrote: Yes, I understand the focus SHIFTED slightly. It went from a gag manga with plenty of action to an action manga with plenty of gags.
Then we're in agreement. All I was trying to say was the common fan would be more attracted to an action shot of Piccolo then a silly Saiyaman pose.
Which I disagree with.

I think the average fan would prefer Saiayaman on the Saiyaman arc box over having Piccolo from the Saiyan Saga on the Saiyaman arc box.

When I say common fan I mean those 9 year olds that are born every day. They want FIGHTING AND ACTION...The common fan won't even think about the fact that it's a Saiyan Saga shot.

Casual Matt · Post by **Casual Matt** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 11:55 am

SSJ2bardock wrote:
Forgotten Hero wrote:They should have just stuck with Majin Vegeta! I thought that was a perfect cover! But no!
You'd still have people complaining about him not being relevant though, cause he's not in this set...

He was more relevant than Freeza Arc Goku on Season Six. Then again, so is Piccolo here.

Honestly I think the only reason this chaps the asses of most people here is because they did have someone from the Babidi / Majin Arcs but changed it to a shot of Piccolo from Season One.

It just makes no sense whatsoever. Though perhaps the Majin Vegeta one was fake and FUNi always planned this retardation.

I mean it's not like it's hard to think of characters to put on these covers. For corn's sake, their previous boxsets were almost all named after particular characters.

Also, it'd be different if they didn't establish some trend of relevance early on. Vegeta on Season One. Goku on Two. Freeza on Three. Trunks on Four. Cell on Five. They were all relevant. It's like they changed their mind about using relevant art in the middle of a release series that's supposed to be consistent.

If they wanted to have random heroes on each set, they should have done so from the beginning. If they wanted to have characters relevant to the set on the cover, they should just look at their saga titles from the set and pick a character whose name they see from each one.

God, I'm starting to ramble on.

Raki · Post by **Raki** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 1:06 pm

Casual Matt wrote:
SSJ2bardock wrote:
Forgotten Hero wrote:They should have just stuck with Majin Vegeta! I thought that was a perfect cover! But no!
You'd still have people complaining about him not being relevant though, cause he's not in this set...
If they wanted to have random heroes on each set, they should have done so from the beginning. If they wanted to have characters relevant to the set on the cover, they should just look at their saga titles from the set and pick a character whose name they see from each one.

This. I agree if they wanted to do random cover art, they should have done it from the start. But Funi knows these sets sell, so they don't have to follow any sort of logic.

Tanooki Kuribo · Post by **Tanooki Kuribo** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 2:05 pm

Iam afraid its official. The trailer for season seven is out showing Piccolo on the cover.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuBLld9wEAM

SSJ2bardock · Post by **SSJ2bardock** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 3:00 pm

Oh I love the dead fighter's tournament, I forgot that was going to be in this!

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 3:01 pm

SSJ2bardock wrote:Oh I love the dead fighter's tournament, I forgot that was going to be in this!

Come to think of it, maybe they meant to put Paikuhan on the cover and got mixed up.

Super Ghost Kamikaze · Post by **Super Ghost Kamikaze** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 3:06 pm

SSj Kaboom wrote:
SSJ2bardock wrote:Oh I love the dead fighter's tournament, I forgot that was going to be in this!
Come to think of it, maybe they meant to put Paikuhan on the cover and got mixed up.

...Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised. xD