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Post by Pain » Mon Sep 22, 2008 5:34 pm

Kid Trunks wrote:
Captain Awesome wrote:It seems to be a FUNimation dub thing.

I see dub fans saying it all the time, does it actually say anything that would lead the viewer to believe the whole Namekian plant thing?
I think its because Dende says (in the dub) that "Namekians are grown from those plants you saw outside", or something to that effect. That isn't in the original?
So I can go outside and plant me a few Dendes, Piccolos, and Nails? And after that I'll plant a few Saibamen.

I think that Dende's statement(If original) was a bit unfinished.
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Post by Super Ghost Kamikaze » Mon Sep 22, 2008 6:30 pm

....

That can't be right.

Something there must be wrong with the dub, since it's obvious that Namekian reproduction involves that nasty egg-vomiting, isn't it?

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Post by Onikage725 » Mon Sep 22, 2008 6:45 pm

And they have antennae...
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Post by Kid Trunks » Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:16 pm

Super Ghost Kamikaze wrote:....

That can't be right.

Something there must be wrong with the dub, since it's obvious that Namekian reproduction involves that nasty egg-vomiting, isn't it?
Thats just the Demon Namekians, which is basically just Daimao.

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Post by Rocketman » Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:31 pm

Kid Trunks wrote:Thats just the Demon Namekians, which is basically just Daimao.
Dende says all Namekians reproduce that way.

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Post by Pain » Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:51 pm

Rocketman wrote:
Kid Trunks wrote:Thats just the Demon Namekians, which is basically just Daimao.
Dende says all Namekians reproduce that way.
He also said that Cargo was his friend, but has he spoken of him since Freeza turned him into Namek-Jerky? Nope.
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Post by Kid Trunks » Mon Sep 22, 2008 8:06 pm

Rocketman wrote:
Kid Trunks wrote:Thats just the Demon Namekians, which is basically just Daimao.
Dende says all Namekians reproduce that way.
Well there you go. Looks like the Funi dub polluted my young mind :P . Though, I've always taken the dub with a pinch...no, bucket, of salt.

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Post by Onikage725 » Mon Sep 22, 2008 11:29 pm

Pain wrote: He also said that Cargo was his friend, but has he spoken of him since Freeza turned him into Namek-Jerky? Nope.
Cargo's his brother. But Dende doesn't have much contact with his homeworld. He's busy being the God of Earth and all that.
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Post by Herms » Tue Sep 23, 2008 12:20 am

Onikage725 wrote: The only one I don't get is Moori. To my knowledge that's a type of fish that eats snails.
It's from katatsumuri, another Japanese word for "snail". Piccolo/Kami's parent Katatsu gets his name from the first half of the word.
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Post by JAPPO » Tue Sep 23, 2008 12:26 am

Cargo? who's that? :shock:
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Post by BrollysKin » Tue Sep 23, 2008 12:30 am

JAPPO wrote:Cargo? who's that? :shock:
Dende's brother, but I was never sure it was stated that he was and it's just assumed.
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Post by Rocketman » Tue Sep 23, 2008 12:30 am

JAPPO wrote:Cargo? who's that? :shock:
Schrödinger's Cargo - he's always dead, but we don't know if Freeza or Dodoria killed him until we look.

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Post by Kaboom » Tue Sep 23, 2008 12:33 am

Rocketman wrote:
JAPPO wrote:Cargo? who's that? :shock:
Schrödinger's Cargo - he's always dead, but we don't know if Freeza or Dodoria killed him until we look.
I'm kind of simultaneously sad and happy that I understood that reference.
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Post by Herms » Tue Sep 23, 2008 12:35 am

BrollysKin wrote:Dende's brother, but I was never sure it was stated that he was and it's just assumed.
They're all brothers (sisters?). Saichourou gave birth to all the current Namekians living on Planet Namek. Dende explains this to Gohan and Kuririn.
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Post by omegacwa » Tue Sep 23, 2008 12:18 pm

Cargo should have been revived when they made the wish to revive all those killed by Freeza and his men, yet he is never shown or talked about again.

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Post by Onikage725 » Tue Sep 23, 2008 12:47 pm

Herms wrote:They're all brothers (sisters?). Saichourou gave birth to all the current Namekians living on Planet Namek. Dende explains this to Gohan and Kuririn.
I always assumed they were from a later line. Isn't Moori they're father or grandfather or something of that nature?

Just like Piccolo was the son of Katatsu. The children of Saichorou had at some point started spawning of their own accord. Saichorou was an invalid and Dende/Cargo were pretty young...
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Post by mrkaizoku » Tue Sep 23, 2008 1:49 pm

Onikage725 wrote:
Herms wrote:They're all brothers (sisters?). Saichourou gave birth to all the current Namekians living on Planet Namek. Dende explains this to Gohan and Kuririn.
I always assumed they were from a later line. Isn't Moori they're father or grandfather or something of that nature?

Just like Piccolo was the son of Katatsu. The children of Saichorou had at some point started spawning of their own accord. Saichorou was an invalid and Dende/Cargo were pretty young...
No Dende says in the manga that he is Saichourou's 108th child. He also says that Saichourou gave birth to everyone else.
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Post by Onikage725 » Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:47 pm

mrkaizoku wrote:
Onikage725 wrote:
Herms wrote:They're all brothers (sisters?). Saichourou gave birth to all the current Namekians living on Planet Namek. Dende explains this to Gohan and Kuririn.
I always assumed they were from a later line. Isn't Moori they're father or grandfather or something of that nature?

Just like Piccolo was the son of Katatsu. The children of Saichorou had at some point started spawning of their own accord. Saichorou was an invalid and Dende/Cargo were pretty young...
No Dende says in the manga that he is Saichourou's 108th child. He also says that Saichourou gave birth to everyone else.
This actually brings up the question of family systems in Namek society. Digging around, it appears that the Daizenshuu character guide says both. And we also have Piccolo being the child of Katatsu (an event that obviously happened on Namek). So are these adoptive parents, since Saichorou has better things to do than raise every new kid he spits out?
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Post by omegacwa » Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:53 pm

Maybe Guru/Saichiro created 10(or whatever) nameks first. These became the elders. These elders then went out and started villages, while Saichiro created more nameks, which these elders then raised. And since Muri was Saichiro first(or oldest surviving child) he was selected to be the next Saichiro. Makes sense to me. What do you guys think?

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Post by Rocketman » Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:11 pm

Katats was before the Great Extinction, though. If there's supposed to be a bunch of different clans, then I doubt there's only one Namek allowed to vomit eggs at a time.

Maybe Guru's being the only was just supposed to rush a whole bunch of Nameks out and refill the population?

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