Season Six Discussion Thread

SSj_Rambo · Post by **SSj_Rambo** » Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:48 am

Vekurotto wrote:I'm pretty sure the footage that they had and "remastered" was probably 5th or 6th or something completely bottom of the barrel gen for at least for Seasons 1-5 because of how much of the "remastering" side-effects that happened. I think if the film was of higher quality there wouldn't have been as many problems. I'm pretty sure that the episodes from here on out will look pretty good though save the zooming in they did since Funi already had higher quality masters and the episodes already looked good before whatever remastering hit them.

I'm pretty sure that the footage they are using for all of their season sets are from the same set of film transfers. The quality differences between seasons is due to changes in the remastering process, not the quality of the film transfers.

Raki · Post by **Raki** » Thu Sep 25, 2008 1:51 am

SSj_Rambo wrote:
Vekurotto wrote:I'm pretty sure the footage that they had and "remastered" was probably 5th or 6th or something completely bottom of the barrel gen for at least for Seasons 1-5 because of how much of the "remastering" side-effects that happened. I think if the film was of higher quality there wouldn't have been as many problems. I'm pretty sure that the episodes from here on out will look pretty good though save the zooming in they did since Funi already had higher quality masters and the episodes already looked good before whatever remastering hit them.
I'm pretty sure that the footage they are using for all of their season sets are from the same set of film transfers. The quality differences between seasons is due to changes in the remastering process, not the quality of the film transfers.

The film masters for the later episodes are no doubt better than the ones from Seasons 1 and 2.

DBHighDefinition · Post by **DBHighDefinition** » Thu Sep 25, 2008 3:12 pm

Haha, i saw my videos on here that i posted on YouTube ( Page 12 ). I just wanted to let you guys know, that if you need any DBZ Remastered videos posted on YouTube for comparison purposes, then just give me a call.

SSJToreto · Post by **SSJToreto** » Fri Sep 26, 2008 3:46 am

Season 6 looks marginaly better in my eyes. Haven't been on these forums since like... season 3.

Anyway, looks like they decided to keep the film grain this time around. No missing lines anymore I would guess, right?

DBHighDefinition · Post by **DBHighDefinition** » Fri Sep 26, 2008 7:26 am

SSJToreto wrote:Season 6 looks marginaly better in my eyes. Haven't been on these forums since like... season 3.

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Anyway, looks like they decided to keep the film grain this time around. No missing lines anymore I would guess, right?

That's right... no missing lines, but it looks more than marginally better; it looks insanely better than the previous seasons.

biohazard · Post by **biohazard** » Fri Sep 26, 2008 7:32 am

This scene looks grainy because every frame is completely different from previous (ones), and later frames (are also this grainy) because of the lightning effect of the Kamehameha. The grain removal filter doesn't affect (the footage) in these cases. People used to video editing will know what I'm talking about.

Just look at the other screenshots; the grain has been removed. Only this scene is grainy.

Vegard Aune · Post by **Vegard Aune** » Fri Sep 26, 2008 9:47 am

SSJToreto wrote:No missing lines anymore I would guess, right?

I heard that there are a few in the first couple of episodes. Looks like FUNi is never gonna get it quite right, huh? (Though with the increase in quality lately, I've been considering starting to buy the sets again.)

DBHighDefinition · Post by **DBHighDefinition** » Fri Sep 26, 2008 9:51 am

Vegard Aune wrote:
SSJToreto wrote:No missing lines anymore I would guess, right?
I heard that there are a few in the first couple of episodes. Looks like FUNi is never gonna get it quite right, huh? (Though with the increase in quality lately, I've been considering starting to buy the sets again.)

Go for it, dude. Seriously, they look so much better than the previous sets.

SSJToreto · Post by **SSJToreto** » Fri Sep 26, 2008 4:34 pm

DBHighDefinition wrote:
SSJToreto wrote:Season 6 looks marginaly better in my eyes. Haven't been on these forums since like... season 3.

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Anyway, looks like they decided to keep the film grain this time around. No missing lines anymore I would guess, right?
it looks insanely better than the previous seasons.

That's not saying much. ^

ect5150, Corey what do you watch your Dragon Box dvd's on? LCD tv? 4:3 CRT TV's? I'd also like to know what DVD player you use etc...

Post by **VegettoEX** » Fri Sep 26, 2008 4:37 pm

biohazard wrote:This scene looks grainy because every frame is completely different from previous (ones), and later frames (are also this grainy) because of the lightning effect of the Kamehameha. The grain removal filter doesn't affect (the footage) in these cases. People used to video editing will know what I'm talking about.

Just look at the other screenshots; the grain has been removed. Only this scene is grainy.

I think you're horribly confusing the grain inherent in the film used to produce the show, and the effects of macroblocking due to poor digital compression.

The Time Traveller · Post by **The Time Traveller** » Fri Sep 26, 2008 6:51 pm

I was finally able to order it! $33, no Postage and packaging added and it's already been sent.

DBHighDefinition · Post by **DBHighDefinition** » Fri Sep 26, 2008 7:29 pm

Another image if anyone wants to compare:

I mainly stuck it in here because of Vegeta's eye colour. It seems more natural than the other images we have seen.

Jackal puFF · Post by **Jackal puFF** » Sat Sep 27, 2008 1:32 am

I'm gonna start watching this season 6 tomorrow.

Kunzait_83 · Post by **Kunzait_83** » Sat Sep 27, 2008 1:53 am

Freeza Heika · Post by **Freeza Heika** » Sat Sep 27, 2008 11:14 am

Anyone notice that walmart is still using the Vegeta boxart?

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product. ... d=10268697

Thing they're just slow or maybe some indecision over at funi?

Raki · Post by **Raki** » Sat Sep 27, 2008 11:29 am

Freeza Heika wrote:Anyone notice that walmart is still using the Vegeta boxart?

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product. ... d=10268697

Thing they're just slow or maybe some indecision over at funi?

Nope, it's just Wal Mart is too lazy to change it. I work for the bastards, so I know personally.

MajinVejitaXV · Post by **MajinVejitaXV** » Sat Sep 27, 2008 2:34 pm

SSJToreto wrote:ect5150, Corey what do you watch your Dragon Box dvd's on? LCD tv? 4:3 CRT TV's? I'd also like to know what DVD player you use etc...

I watch all my DVD's on a Pioneer Elite PRO-910HD display that has been calibrated using GetGray and THX RGB filters. The DVD player is an Oppo DV-980H, outputting a 480i signal via HDMI to my Denon AVR-3808CI which deinterlaces and upscales it to 720p and goes to the television via HDMI. It's all setup to main OAR also, no noise reduction etc.

-Corey

Rory · Post by **Rory** » Sat Sep 27, 2008 2:40 pm

MajinVejitaXV wrote:
SSJToreto wrote:ect5150, Corey what do you watch your Dragon Box dvd's on? LCD tv? 4:3 CRT TV's? I'd also like to know what DVD player you use etc...
I watch all my DVD's on a Pioneer Elite PRO-910HD display that has been calibrated using GetGray and THX RGB filters. The DVD player is an Oppo DV-980H, outputting a 480i signal via HDMI to my Denon AVR-3808CI which deinterlaces and upscales it to 720p and goes to the television via HDMI. It's all setup to main OAR also, no noise reduction etc.

-Corey

And so, Coreys ego masturbation continues.

MajinVejitaXV · Post by **MajinVejitaXV** » Sat Sep 27, 2008 2:43 pm

Rory wrote:And so, Coreys ego masturbation continues.

Oh no, I answered a question. What an egotistical bastard I am

-Corey

ect5150 · Post by **ect5150** » Sat Sep 27, 2008 3:16 pm

SSJToreto wrote:ect5150, Corey what do you watch your Dragon Box dvd's on? LCD tv? 4:3 CRT TV's? I'd also like to know what DVD player you use etc...

PC Monitor for me! I don't have a Region 2 player, although I do have a 47" 1080P LCD with an upscaling DVD player (haven't gone BluRay... yet!)

I have made one DBox movie, added my own subtitles, and reburned it to a Region 1 disc. It rocks... I think I've shown off the pic before though.

Click thru for larger image:

Eventually, I'll just encode all of them to my PC, and run a cable form the PC to the TV. Although I may re-make my own DVD's from the movies. The episodes are too numerous to do so as making one disc is somewhat time consuming.