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Post by Dayspring » Sat Sep 27, 2008 4:26 pm

Snail wrote:Table and his wife proves that love has no boundaries. 8)
Or, logically, that beggars can't be choosers. Look who his choices are: members of the race he lives with, or if he's luck, Nappa or Radditz. At least he went with the female.

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Post by Jackal puFF » Sun Sep 28, 2008 4:10 am

SSj_Rambo wrote:Wow, judging from the way Tahble looks in that latest scan I would have guessed that he was a bada** fighter...I guess not.
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Jackal puFF wrote:This sucks!

I don't think the US will get this for years!

Just look at the movies. It took like 10 years to get the movies to get dubbed and everything :cry:
Funi does know about this and I'm sure that they will try to get it as soon as possible. Due to the small scale this special was released on there won't be anything for Funi to gain by holding off the release...in fact if a dub of this special is released over here it might very well be most popular now as apposed to a few years in the future.

The only reason I could think of as to why we won't get this soon is that Toei probably won't want us releasing it before they do, and they tend to take forever to release Dragonball stuff. But then again they did let us release all of DB and DBZ and DBGT well before they did...but that was in a different time.
Ahh I see, well I hope funimation does it soon.

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Post by saiyanprincess » Sun Sep 28, 2008 4:31 am

Herms wrote:So I didn’t get to see the Jump Anime Tour today. That’s the short story.

The long story
So I didn’t get to see the anime tour. Not that I didn’t try, although I was seriously considering just staying in bed today. As my current “location” text indicates, I’ve been kind of sick for the past few days. My right ear has had some kind of infection, and today when I woke up, not only had it not healed, but my left ear was a little sore as well. However, I figured I couldn't just throw away this chance that so many people would love to have, so I got out of bed and got on the train.

Let me explain where I’m located in Tokyo a bit first. For my junior year, I’m studying abroad at Sophia University. While Sophia is located in Yotsuya, right in the middle of Tokyo, my dorm is in Koganei, which is basically a suburb town of Tokyo located way to the west of the main city. This means that every day when I go to school, I have to ride the subway for about half an hour (classes haven’t actually started yet, but I’ve already had to repeatedly go to the campus for various orientation-type things). It’s kind of a pain, but most of the trains have little TVs that show commercials, which are always goofy fun. Last week they were playing the commercial for DragonBall DS a lot, and this week they’ve got a commercial for the upcoming Fist of the North Star movie, that features a live-action version of Kenshiro’s girlfriend helping some old guy pick up his groceries (I don’t really get it either…).

The Tokyo screening of the Jump Anime Tour was being held at Hibiya Public Hall in Hibiya Park, which meant that to get there I had to take my normal line for a few stops, then switch over to a train bound for Hibiya Park. While I was at the platform waiting for my transfer train, I saw this little udon and curry shop where you had to enter your money and order into this vending machine-like thing outside, then go inside and wait as they made your meal. I hadn’t had any breakfast and it was awhile before the train came, so I put some money into the vending machine thing, but as soon as I did it just started making this horrible screeching noise, like a car alarm. I tried putting in my order but it didn’t respond, and then I kept hitting the money return button but that didn’t do anything either.

While I was trying to figure out what’s wrong with the thing, someone went inside the shop and got the shop lady to come out and take a look at the machine. She opened the machine up and started fiddling around inside, and as she was doing that, my train arrived. Now, I had put a 1,000 yen bill into that machine, which is about $10, so naturally I wanted to at least get my money back. But my train left before she got everything sorted out, so I had to wait ten minutes for the next one. But the udon was really good, so I guess it was worth it.

Anyway, because of all the udon-related technical difficulties, by the time I made it to Hibiya Public Hall, they had already finished getting all the invitees inside the hall. As has been mentioned earlier in the thread, this anime tour was not something you could just buy a ticket for like a regular movie or anything. Instead, you had to submit an entry to Weekly Jump indicating what screening you wanted to attend, and a certain number of people would be selected to attend each screening. Those selected were sent an invitation, and unless you had one of those invitations you couldn’t get in (although apparently those with invitations could bring a friend along if they chose to). So I was going to this thing essentially in the hopes that I would be able to sneak in somehow. Originally I was planning on somehow hiding myself in the crowd, but now that there were only staff members outside that wasn’t going to work (though it probably wouldn’t have anyway; I wouldn’t blend very well into a crowd mostly comprised of Japanese children).

At this point, my only real plan was to pretend that I’m some tourist who doesn’t know where he is, and just try and “stupid foreigner” my way into the place. Not exactly the most dignified strategy, but “desperate times call for desperate measures” and all that. I strolled up to the hall, looking around at everything in a touristy, “just passing through” manner. There were banners that said “Jump Anime Tour” set up, and tables staffed by attendees in red shirts. I walked past trying not to look at them, so I’m not really sure what their function was. Maybe to distribute pamphlets of something?

The main entrance was on a sort of second floor balcony that went partway around the building (“balcony” isn’t really the right word, but I can’t think of a better way to describe it), and I walked up the steps to there, going past some more staff members who I glanced briefly at, trying to do my best “Oo~oh, what’s this big shiny building?”-face. None of them said anything. I got up to the balcony and walked around the corner, and there was a few more steps leading up to the entrance. The entrance was really small. If I remember right, it was a double set of doors, but only one of them was open. The open one was half blocked by a suit-wearing staff member who was holding a “Jump Anime Tour” banner in one hand. There was no way more than one person at a time could have ever gotten through that, and I realized that my plan of sneaking in with a crowd would have never worked, even if I had gotten in on time. Hell, even if through some strange Twilight Zone voodoo every invitee had looked exactly like me, I still wouldn’t have been able to sneak in with the crowd. It was just that small an entrance.

The entrance guy looked at me, and I gave a vapid smile. He asks me in Japanese if I have an invitation, but I just kept smiling and went “uh…”. Seeing this, another suited staff member walked up the stairs after me. “Do you understand Japanese?” he asked me in Japanese. I shrug and give another “uh…”. “You don’t understand…” he said, still in Japanese, then in English he said “This is an event. You can’t get in without a ticket.” So he knew English pretty well, which sunk my crappy plan. “You need a ticket” he repeated, and I pulled out an extra train ticket I had in my pocket. “Not that kind.” he says, so I asked him how much for a ticket, but he said they’re not on sale. So I headed back down the stairs, out of ideas, and as I’m going down the suit guy says in Japanese “Foreigners” to the entrance guy, and they both laughed. So I haven’t exactly done my part to improve the reputation of foreigners in Japan. Sorry everyone…

This was all a little after 10:00 AM, when the first screening was. There would be another screening at 2:30, so I figured I’d explore Hibiya Park and see if I could come up with some ingenious plan to infiltrate the second screening. The park was really nice, and I spent some time taking in the sites. They have a lake there with big fish and a few turtles, and a nice fountain. There was a group doing yoga or something right behind the Hibiya hall, and deeper in there was a group painting the scenery. Some time later, I’m not sure exactly how long, I ended up back behind the hall again. There were a few doors at ground level, so I walked up to one and pulled on it. It’s locked, of course. Then I looked over at the next door over, and it was open. Just a little tiny bit, like it was stuck or something. Now, obviously this was the perfect opportunity, right? I went to investigate things further, but then I looked up at the second floor balcony thing (I still can’t think of how to describe it; it didn’t actually stick out from the building), and there was a red-shirted staff member staring at me with this “fuck off” expression all over his face. So I figured it was prudent to leave…

After that I went to Akihabara and visited this book store called Shosen. I managed to get DragonBall Tenkaichi Densetsu and the fifth Dr. Slump kanzenban, so my day wasn’t a complete waste, DB-wise. I also got the movie Black Narcissus, which they had for 500 yen (about $5). They had a whole bunch of classic movies for that much, so I might go back there in the future. At this time it was almost 2. I considered going back to the park and trying to sneak in again, but I figured that this was a bad idea, what with the staff member having seen me at all. Not to mention I was now carrying a bag with two Jump-related books, which would have undercut my “I’m just some random tourist who has no idea what’s going on here today”-act. So I went back to my dorm. On the way back I started feeling pretty sick again and as a result got completely lost on the subway system for awhile, but that’s a story for another day.

Oh, and once I was back in Koganei, I stopped to get some sushi to take home (I’m a complete sucker for sushi), and as I was walking back I got a “do not cross” signal at a small road. Now, I’ve heard people say that in Japan people never, ever J-walk, but apparently things have changed at some point, since I see people do it all the time. Case in point, every pedestrian and cyclist who came to that street except for me just walked on through (it was a pretty small road, with no traffic). But I waited patiently for the light to change, because I figured that since I had basically spent the entire day trying to unlawfully sneak into an anime screening, the least I could do to make up for it was to obey my local traffic laws (try not to think too deeply about that logic…). But then a little further on the way back I got another “do not cross” signal at a street with no traffic, and I thought “the hell with this” and just J-walked through.

And that is how I did not see the new DragonBall special.
Poor Herms! It is a small pleasurable feeling inside to know that I am not the only person who is stalked by bad luck! I do honestly feel for you!
Think of the bright side... At least you are in the beautiful land of the rising sun! :D

I think had that been me, I just might have turned Launch and robbed some poor unwilling Japanese person of their ticket.... Of course the incident with the vending machine would also have to be settled... I think a pickup truck with a towcable attached to the back.
Wow the trains there run every ten minutes! :shock: We are lucky if the trains here actually run at all, they constantly get grounded and coaches are packed out, resulting in huge delays. (This happens on an almost daily basis these days! :roll: )

Don't worry! Things WILL get better. I really do envy you with a passion. :P
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Post by Chuquita » Sun Sep 28, 2008 4:41 am

*Wonders how many more airings of the special will occur before screenshots and videoclips finally surface*.


I bet this must be what its like to follow the movies for new ongoing shounen series. Having stuff being shown in theaters far away and not getting to see it even when its initially being shown. @_@


Or, conversely, it's like being plunged back into the 56k era while everyone else continues along in the present day. :(
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Post by Son Wukong » Sun Sep 28, 2008 5:02 am

Herms wrote:So I headed back down the stairs, out of ideas, and as I’m going down the suit guy says in Japanese “Foreigners” to the entrance guy, and they both laughed.
Just interested, since I can't really make it out of the context, what kind of laughter was it? Was it a ''Oh you poor little thing, lost your way to somewhere''-laugh or a 'Kid getting bullied in the middle of the crowd'-laugh? :lol:

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Post by Chibi Mystic Gohan » Sun Sep 28, 2008 5:45 am

They were making fun of him.

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Post by SSJ Helldog » Sun Sep 28, 2008 7:25 am

Chuquita wrote:I bet this must be what its like to follow the movies for new ongoing shounen series. Having stuff being shown in theaters far away and not getting to see it even when its initially being shown. @_@

Yeah, I was waiting for months for the new One Piece movie to be released on DVD. The difference, though, is that I knew that movie would be released on DVD, and had a street date months ahead of time. For this special I'm not so sure. A half hour isn't much of a home video. I suppose they could package it with the other specials shown at the festival. Speaking of which, I'm looking forward to the One Piece one as well. And Blue Dragon... I've only seen the first 12 episodes or so. Does that series ever stop sucking?

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Post by Herms » Sun Sep 28, 2008 7:51 am

Miracles wrote:How is the Weather out there Herms?
It's been mostly sunny so far, but there's been sporadic rain. Today was pretty gray.
DNA wrote:Hmm, I always thought that Japan was not as nice as people think it is, but the way you describe it seems to be really nice actually.
Parts of it are really nice, like Hibiya Park, but there are grungier and more run-down parts. For instance, Koganei is pretty clean, but I've been to some of the other towns nearby, and a few are rather dirty.
Dayspring wrote:EDIT: 4k posts achieved in a thread about new Dragonball after years of nothing? Awesometacular.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but there are only a little over 1,000 posts in this thread.
saiyanprincess wrote:Wow the trains there run every ten minutes! :shock: We are lucky if the trains here actually run at all, they constantly get grounded and coaches are packed out, resulting in huge delays. (This happens on an almost daily basis these days! :roll: )
Well, it depends on what station you're at and where you're going, but every six-ten minutes seems to be the average. Of course, it might also be different outside of Tokyo. It is really nice just being able to head to the station anytime and be able to get on a train without much waiting.
Son Wukong wrote:Just interested, since I can't really make it out of the context, what kind of laughter was it? Was it a ''Oh you poor little thing, lost your way to somewhere''-laugh or a 'Kid getting bullied in the middle of the crowd'-laugh? :lol:
If I were to put the laughter into words, it would probably be "Foreigners, whatcha gonna do?". So basically what Chibi Mystic Gohan said.
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Post by Gozar » Sun Sep 28, 2008 8:56 am

Hey, I've got a question...Does anyone know if this Special is 4:3 or 16:9? I want to know if there's a chance that FUNi can screw this up. :D

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Post by sangofe » Sun Sep 28, 2008 12:48 pm

Gozar wrote:Hey, I've got a question...Does anyone know if this Special is 4:3 or 16:9? I want to know if there's a chance that FUNi can screw this up. :D
I'd be extremely surprised if any anime made anno 08 is animated in 4:3...

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Post by Hero 004 » Sun Sep 28, 2008 12:56 pm

Damnit!! I read Kanzentai's whole bloody synopsis! So much for remaining spoiler-free this time. Table being Vegeta's little brother was a very interesting revelation. I guess we'll see if that's ever expanded on. Too bad no one but Gotenk fought, but at least we're gonna see a Roga-fufu-ken for the first time since Dragon Ball.
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Post by Saiyan-Professor » Sun Sep 28, 2008 12:56 pm

Dayspring wrote:
Snail wrote:Table and his wife proves that love has no boundaries. 8)
Or, logically, that beggars can't be choosers...
Well I guess it is like if you hang around an ugly chick for an extended period of time a person may start thinking about trying to sleep with her. :D
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Post by Chuquita » Sun Sep 28, 2008 1:55 pm

SSJ Helldog wrote:
Chuquita wrote:I bet this must be what its like to follow the movies for new ongoing shounen series. Having stuff being shown in theaters far away and not getting to see it even when its initially being shown. @_@

Yeah, I was waiting for months for the new One Piece movie to be released on DVD. The difference, though, is that I knew that movie would be released on DVD, and had a street date months ahead of time. For this special I'm not so sure. A half hour isn't much of a home video. I suppose they could package it with the other specials shown at the festival. Speaking of which, I'm looking forward to the One Piece one as well. And Blue Dragon... I've only seen the first 12 episodes or so. Does that series ever stop sucking?

I have to admit I am kind of worried about Japan not releasing this on DVD anytime soon (though the fact that there was a poll about which special the audience wanted released does give me hope).


Also hoping that Funi is dbz-hungry enough to go after this special and release it as soon as possible.



Good question; I haven't a clue as I never made it past the first 15 episodes of Blue Dragon without completely giving up on the series.

I blame Studio Pierrot.
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Post by Miracles » Sun Sep 28, 2008 3:18 pm

Herms wrote:
Miracles wrote:How is the Weather out there Herms?
It's been mostly sunny so far, but there's been sporadic rain. Today was pretty gray.
Is the weather pleasant, like Warm or breezy?

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Post by saiyanprincess » Sun Sep 28, 2008 4:11 pm

I know this is a really bad thing to say, but does anybody hold any hope of this getting leaked onto the internet?

I just CAN'T wait!!! Especially knowing all the happy little Japanese people are discussing it whilst tucking into their delicious egg fried rice and chicken Raman. :(

My patience can't take waiting... It hurts...
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Post by Dayspring » Sun Sep 28, 2008 5:36 pm

saiyanprincess wrote:I know this is a really bad thing to say, but does anybody hold any hope of this getting leaked onto the internet?

I just CAN'T wait!!! Especially knowing all the happy little Japanese people are discussing it whilst tucking into their delicious egg fried rice and chicken Raman. :(

My patience can't take waiting... It hurts...
I get the impression that the DVDs will come out in order of popularity, with the shorter ones together on one DVD, or maybe 1 short + 1 long (ie: DB with Blue Dragon). It would then depend on the popularity of the shorts to determine the order in which they get released.

I can't see DB NOT being released on DVD. If it truly were exclusive to the festival, why give a defunct series the longest (or tied for longest) special at the festival instead of the shortest? I'm sure once such a DVD is released, we'll see leaks all over the net.
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Post by SSJToreto » Sun Sep 28, 2008 7:26 pm

Surely someone could've sneaked in a camera and shot some of the video... Youtube is our only hope for now.

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Post by SSj_Rambo » Sun Sep 28, 2008 9:25 pm

Herms, you totally need to be on the podcast again just so that you can tell us that story yourself!
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Post by Big Momma » Mon Sep 29, 2008 12:17 am

Chuquita wrote:*Wonders how many more airings of the special will occur before screenshots and videoclips finally surface*.
After reading Herms' AWESOME story, I'd say the chances of that happening are small. Security seemed to be pretty tight.


And Herms', you have my kudo's. That is an amazing story, and I enjoyed every word of it.

Hope your ears get better! :wink:
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Post by Cypher » Mon Sep 29, 2008 10:40 am

Just a random interjection...I wonder exactly how canon it is (I hate saying 'canon' but please forgive me ;_; ) that Vegeta has a little brother? I mean, if Toriyama wrote another DB story, would Ta-buru/ Tarble (?) perhaps be included, that sort of thing? I heard Toriyama had a large part in this special (as in probably created the characters etc) so I guess I'm saying is he just anime-canon, or what exactly? I know people probably have no idea, any thoughts would be interesting to hear though.

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