Woohoo! More News About The New Dragonball Special!

Captain Awesome · Post by **Captain Awesome** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 10:50 am

While I love the idea of Vegeta having a little brother, despite Toriyama's involvement, the whole age plothole with Table means I wont consider this anymore than a throwaway special with some fun ideas.

Chrono Trigger · Post by **Chrono Trigger** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 10:52 am

Which really sucks because if they put just a LITTLE more thought into it...

LeprikanGT · Post by **LeprikanGT** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 12:16 pm

A little more depth would have been nice, and a tad bit more fightign than goten/trunks and goku. Tables age DOES make him impossible to exist since the saiyans were destroyed when vegeta was little BUT i like his character design and its a special anyways; i just hope he doesnt have a whiney voice.

Would have loved to see him fight as well.

Post by **Herms** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 12:17 pm

I love the idea of Vegeta having a little brother who is no good at fighting, especially because I was worried he'd end up being yet another Super Saiyan. But considering the age issue and all, unless Toriyama makes some manga version of this special and/or makes a short continuation of the manga that includes Table, I think it's best to consider Table to be the same as all the other movie characters: a fun addition that doesn't really fit into continuity.

mAcChaos · Post by **mAcChaos** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 12:20 pm

How old is he? I mean, if he's married...

Post by **Herms** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 12:39 pm

mAcChaos wrote:How old is he? I mean, if he's married...

Since Goku was born the year Planet Vegeta was destroyed (a few days before, going by the Barduck special), Table can't be very much younger than Goku. So he'd be 39 at the very least by the time of this special.

Cypher · Post by **Cypher** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 1:29 pm

Hmmm...I guess there remains some hope that he's not really young-sounding, I mean perhaps the planet he was sent to has high gravity so he stayed small, or something

I mean, just look at his wife; freakin' minuscule.

LeprikanGT · Post by **LeprikanGT** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 1:57 pm

Apparently neither of them really do much except land and try to get help. I wanted to see him fight, just to see some new action. From the synopsis and the 'Goku punch' it seems like it's rushed for an ending, only having 3 of them fight and all.

disturbed001 · Post by **disturbed001** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 1:59 pm

I still cant believe it's only 35 minutes long. What a bummer.

Super Ghost Kamikaze · Post by **Super Ghost Kamikaze** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 2:07 pm

So, am I the only one not disappointed in:

-The length
-The tone
-The focus on Goten, Trunks, and Gotenks
-The fact that Table doesn't fit oh-so-meticulously into the timeline?

Because I'm honestly really looking forward to it now that I see it uses a lot of the gag manga aspects of Dragon Ball that I have always found so endearing. Sure, action is great and all, and it can be amazing in Dragon Ball. But the fact is that the movies and specials in the Z era have been very saturated with action and with Goku and Vegeta, that I'm happy to see the change. And some of the movies, in my opinion, overstay their welcome by padding out their runtimes with the typical Shonen anime filler-adding techniques.

Dayspring · Post by **Dayspring** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 2:58 pm

Herms wrote:
mAcChaos wrote:How old is he? I mean, if he's married...
Since Goku was born the year Planet Vegeta was destroyed (a few days before, going by the Barduck special), Table can't be very much younger than Goku. So he'd be 39 at the very least by the time of this special.

We can't even argue that he was conceived prior to the destruction of Planet Vegeta and born after it (making him still 38 at the youngest), since it was the King himself who ordered Tarble to be sent away. Since Vegeta knew about Tarble being sent away, it stands to reason that he was still onworld when it happened, ie: prior to the Bardock special.

So Tarble is officially 39 to 43-years-old (44 is Vegeta).

Also, is it specified that Grey is Tarble's wife and not betrothed?

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 3:09 pm

Have we taken suspended animation into consideration? XD

Super Ghost Kamikaze · Post by **Super Ghost Kamikaze** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 3:13 pm

SSj Kaboom wrote:Have we taken suspended animation into consideration? XD

Actaully, has it been explained whether or not the suspended animation in the space pods halts aging? I mean, did Nappa and Vegeta age a year while traveling to earth?

'Course, unless something is mentioned, then that explanation is dangerously on the side of "fanon".

Olivier Hague · Post by **Olivier Hague** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 3:37 pm

Super Ghost Kamikaze wrote:has it been explained whether or not the suspended animation in the space pods halts aging? I mean, did Nappa and Vegeta age a year while traveling to earth?

Well, did they starve for a year?

Dayspring · Post by **Dayspring** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:08 pm

SSj Kaboom wrote:Have we taken suspended animation into consideration? XD

I suppose it's possible his pod never activated until years after he landed on that planet, on top of taking years to get to said planet, but it doesn't sound like that's even been hinted at. Like Ghost said: "fanon."

disturbed001 · Post by **disturbed001** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:09 pm

Super Ghost Kamikaze wrote:So, am I the only one not disappointed in:

-The length
-The tone
-The focus on Goten, Trunks, and Gotenks
-The fact that Table doesn't fit oh-so-meticulously into the timeline?

Because I'm honestly really looking forward to it now that I see it uses a lot of the gag manga aspects of Dragon Ball that I have always found so endearing. Sure, action is great and all, and it can be amazing in Dragon Ball. But the fact is that the movies and specials in the Z era have been very saturated with action and with Goku and Vegeta, that I'm happy to see the change. And some of the movies, in my opinion, overstay their welcome by padding out their runtimes with the typical Shonen anime filler-adding techniques.

The only thing I'm bummed about is the length, I was hoping for at least an hour. But overall I'm stoked to see this thing!

I'm just a little confused on how Table could exist at all since Vegeta states many times that the only Saiyans are himself, Trunks, Goten, Gohan, and Goku.

Tweaker · Post by **Tweaker** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:19 pm

disturbed001 wrote:I'm just a little confused on how Table could exist at all since Vegeta states many times that the only Saiyans are himself, Trunks, Goten, Gohan, and Goku.

That was never anything more than an assumption, though, wasn't it? I mean, you figure if a planet explodes there won't be any survivors, and yet the presence of full-blooded Saiyans such as Goku and Vegeta show that there are plenty of ways that other Saiyans could have survived Planet Vegeta's explosion. The possibilities could range from being somewhere else to escaping using some sort of barrier, as Broly did as a small child. But I don't think it was ever safe to assume that they were the only remaining Saiyans, given the full realm of possibilities.

BrollysKin · Post by **BrollysKin** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:24 pm

Super Ghost Kamikaze wrote:So, am I the only one not disappointed in:

-The length
-The tone
-The focus on Goten, Trunks, and Gotenks
-The fact that Table doesn't fit oh-so-meticulously into the timeline?

No I pretty much feel the same way, it would have been nice to see a stronger villan as well. Maybe throw a new fusion into the mix or something.

disturbed001 · Post by **disturbed001** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:25 pm

Tweaker wrote:
disturbed001 wrote:I'm just a little confused on how Table could exist at all since Vegeta states many times that the only Saiyans are himself, Trunks, Goten, Gohan, and Goku.
That was never anything more than an assumption, though, wasn't it? I mean, you figure if a planet explodes there won't be any survivors, and yet the presence of full-blooded Saiyans such as Goku and Vegeta show that there are plenty of ways that other Saiyans could have survived Planet Vegeta's explosion. The possibilities could range from being somewhere else to escaping using some sort of barrier, as Broly did as a small child. But I don't think it was ever safe to assume that they were the only remaining Saiyans, given the full realm of possibilities.

I guess I agree with you there, but it just seems strange to me that Vegeta doesn't have too big of a reaction to "Here's my brother who I've always thought dead."

Saiyan-Professor · Post by **Saiyan-Professor** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:27 pm

disturbed001 wrote:I'm just a little confused on how Table could exist at all since Vegeta states many times that the only Saiyans are himself, Trunks, Goten, Gohan, and Goku.

Perhaps it was some of Vegeta’s Saiyan pride slipping through. Imagine the Royal House of Vegeta having a member that is less of a Saiyan than Son Gohan.