Live-action movie trailer

Acid_Reign · Post by **Acid_Reign** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 12:10 am

Captain Awesome wrote:Two mirrors, courtesy of Toreto and Kaboom .

http://www.sendspace.com/file/kev2y9

http://rapidshare.com/files/150048496/D ... o.flv.html

Thank you gentlemen.

EDIT: Just watched it (about 4 times), and I guess I’m trying to find something distinctly DB about it, but it just looks like a generic fantasy-themed action movie. I already wasn’t expecting much, but this? Bleh.

Captain Awesome · Post by **Captain Awesome** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 12:39 am

Acid_Reign wrote: Just watched it (about 4 times), and I guess I’m trying to find something distinctly DB about it, but it just looks like a generic fantasy-themed action movie. I already wasn’t expecting much, but this? Bleh.

I felt the same way, It actually made me realise that I had higher expectations of this film than I thought I did.

Anyway, I hope this isn't what we're going to see along with Max Payne.

Chuquita · Post by **Chuquita** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 12:58 am

Captain Awesome wrote:
Kunzait_83 wrote: Is that an actual FUNi dub quote? Cause I totally don’t remember that one. Ugh, fucking gag me with a spoon.
It's at 1:30, enjoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvVIYd_q9EM

Holy crap, it's so much worse than I remember.

Kuririn's expression still wins though:

I laughed and felt bad at the same time.

Conan the SSJ · Post by **Conan the SSJ** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 1:39 am

BrollysKin wrote:Chatwin still only had his oblivious face in the trailer.

Huh, I just noticed that too. Tsk tsk, Chat-ku, show some happy-happy joy-joy. Emo is not what makes Goku.

Chuquita wrote:I laughed and felt bad at the same time.

I think we all did, or at least I also did, Chu.

Acid_Reign · Post by **Acid_Reign** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 2:59 am

Just read through the thread. In response to some things…

SSj Kaboom wrote:All these differences, and I don't see anyone condemning him, or that series as a whole, for being "nothing like the original." What makes DragonBall so different, or deserving of such harsher standards?

The Ultimate Universe isn’t trying to pass itself off as the originals though. There’s a reason they use the “ultimate” modifier, and that’s to differentiate it from mainstream Marvel continuity. What we have here is a movie that claims it’s Dragonball, despite not resembling it in the least, without apology or explanation. Yes, most fans will of course set this apart from the rest and consider it its own thing, but that doesn’t mean they’re excused from abandoning a good chunk of the story, and it doesn’t fulfill the promise of a live-action Dragon Ball for me.

MisterFlashdude wrote:It wouldn't have been that difficult to write a plot that blended the Pilaf, Red Ribbon, and Piccolo storylines together. Pilaf could've been involved exactly the way he was in the manga, by being the idiot who frees Piccolo. Instead of some eclipse.
And you can't look at Gollum and tell me they can't make a retarded little gremlin for the Dragonball movie.

But it doesn't really matter. It's all "could've been" now.

I’m personally not throwing in the towel just yet. The Schumacher Batmans didn’t prevent The Dark Knight from happening. An accurate live-action DB adaptation can and (Kami-willing) will be made.

Chrono Trigger wrote:I think it would be a little hard to do something like that. I also think even if it was like that people would still find something to complain about. You can't please everybody. I don't believe they can take 153 episodes/ 16 volumes and make a movie out of it. Even if they did it would be way to busy and complicated for the average person. I think it would be cool if they did do it like that but still it wouldn't do each individual character justice.

So just because something’s hard to do, that means it shouldn’t be attempted? Naturally there will always be something for someone out there to complain about… pleasing everybody is enormously impractical and shouldn’t even be a goal. The best you can do, is please most of the people, most of the time. But you really shoot your chances of that in the foot when you discard 90% of your [already popular] source material’s plot.

Although, I am with you in that compressing all of DB into a single movie would be too hasty, and a mistake just as Spider-Man 3’s inclusion of Venom, Green Goblin Ⅱ, and Sand-Man was a mistake. I think having multiple villains exist and be featured in the movie is fine, but there should be a singular focus if the conflict between them is going to be adequately explored, or else 90 minutes isn’t going to cut it.

Chrono Trigger wrote:That's basically how it is. I bet you anything if this first movie is successful enough for them to green light a sequel, it will be much better than this one. They'll take their time filming it and take more chances as far as direction and story goes.

I don’t see how a sequel could be somehow more faithful than its unfaithful predecessor unless it completely scrapped the existing continuity.

SSj Kaboom wrote:As well as an homage to Pilaf, it seems.

How? Has Pilaf even been mentioned at all?

Better than having an anthropomorphic pig or cat doing it. XD

I’m curious as to what makes a human shape-shifter somehow “better” than a fantasy creature shape-shifter. Seeing as humans don’t naturally shape-shift, the fantasy creature seems a more likely candidate in my book as something that would have that ability from the start.

omegacwa wrote:Anything Uwe Bowl Directs is crap, we should be happy we got a decent director.

What makes James Wong (who directed Final Destination 3, mind you) so different from Uwe Bowe, especially now that he’s doing an adaptation of a popular franchise that doesn’t resemble it in any way?

Captain Awesome wrote:Anyway, I hope this isn't what we're going to see along with Max Payne.

I don’t see why it wouldn’t be. I mean, yeah, it’s brief, but it looks like a polished trailer and will probably feel that way with sound.

Conan the SSJ wrote:
BrollysKin wrote:Chatwin still only had his oblivious face in the trailer.
Huh, I just noticed that too. Tsk tsk, Chat-ku, show some happy-happy joy-joy. Emo is not what makes Goku.

I think Chatwin will end up being miscast. He hasn’t really held any major roles before this; his past appearances include bit parts in SuperBabies: Baby Geniuses 2 and Josie and the Pussycats, so I don’t understand why he was chosen for Goku when there are plenty of other more experienced actors (and more capable martial artists) that they could have gotten on their budget, especially when he looks nothing like him (and I’m not talking just skin tone here; he literally bears no resemblance to Son Goku). It just seems like they just went with a relative unknown for novelty’s sake.

Scarz · Post by **Scarz** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 3:14 am

Okay am sure I'm not going to be the first person to say this but, the trailer doesn't look bad. HEY! Put your stones down for sec and let me explain myself here. I love actions movies, both good, bad, and terrible. Judging from the low quality trailer it was very decent. I'm pretty sure if I didn't know anything about Dragonball I would go see it if, and only if, I could see more trailers to make up my mind before I willing through 12 bucks in the trash.

The funny thing is, it doesn't look, sounds, or feel like anything from the original series ("No Shit," said the members of Daizenshuu Forum). No, I really mean it, it was like watching a trailer for another Jackie Chan and Jet Li, ooh that reminds me I got to rent that movie.

Since the sound quality wasn't great I'm hoping it would start with a very generic movie voice guy saying "In world where men have gravity defying hair, and wishes can come true......"

Jackal puFF · Post by **Jackal puFF** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 3:45 am

I didn't like the taxi in there. I Just don't like it

saiyanprincess · Post by **saiyanprincess** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 4:22 am

Does anybody have a new link to this trailer? 20th Century Fox has removed it from Youtube.... Grrrrrr!

Why are they being so childish!!!!

SORRY FOR THE EDIT! - Just thought I would post this link I found on the web http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/10/01/li ... e-trailer/

It looks okay, Nothing like the anime... - But it was just a fuzzy, very poor bootlegged trailer so who am I to base it upon that? It's nice to see Goku training with the turtle shell.

Daburcor · Post by **Daburcor** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 5:58 am

Well... yup.

fogdark · Post by **fogdark** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 6:12 am

I've watch it a few times now. I do like it. Chatwin shows off a few moves, and Emmy looks sexy with that gun , hehe

And while i do find a bit awkward seeing Goku kissing ChiChi

, i realize we do need that kind of scene, because, hell.., they'll be married for the rest of their lives and will have two sons, and a granddaughter, so yeah, we need romance.
I have never thought there was no love between these two in the manga, i think the fault goes to Toriyama, he really doesn't know how to show even a bit of romance. So we will see a Goku in this movie, hopefully, similar to the one in the manga (innocent, heroic, oblivious to ChiChi's feelings, and who loves to eat and fight), but with some changes like him kissing Chichi.
But the thing is, like i said before, regardless of how the movie will be, and how i do like certain things of the trailer, i really think it really do fails with us fans.
I mean come on, you can say -"it was good", or -"what did you expect, its a live-action, it wont be the same as the manga", but really, weren't you even a bit disappointed? They could have showed Goku making the stance of the Kamehameha, or the dragon radar, or show a fight that looks more "Dragonball" than the one in the street.
Don't get me wrong, the movie may turn out great, it may have the Dragonball feeling i'm seeking in this movie (even if it has a hole bunch of changes

) but this trailer wasn't for the fans.
So right now, what do i think? Its was a "ok" trailer, but i am disapointed, because even when we saw a dragonball, Goku's gi, and other trademark stuff of the manga, this trailer didn't really get me exited, and thats what it should have done for a teaser.

But i saw some things that got me thinking too. Did anyone saw the dragon's tail above the trailer?, also, Is Goku about to call Shenron when he lifts his arms with Roshi at his feet? And finally, the last time we see Piccolo rolling in the air.., is he green? The quality of the video is bad and there's no sound. Ill wait for a better quality trailer, maybe i won't be as disappointed as i am now..

mrkaizoku · Post by **mrkaizoku** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 7:00 am

Alright. I just saw the trailer for the first time. I'm not sure if there were enough super cool flips and hand stands in the movie. Seriously just a couple more and I think they've got it! This move resembles "You Got Served" more than it resembles "Dragonball".

A person said earlier in this thread that you can't judge a movie based on a trailer. I have to disagree. For the most part nowadays you can judge a movie based on a trailer. Movie trailers since the 90's have almost always just condensed the movie into a two minute segment leaving only the end of the film unspoiled. I know from watching the trailer for "The Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift" that the movie is bad. Trailers for the most part now are an accurate portrayal of what we'll get in the finished product.

I really miss the early days of movie trailers especially the 70's and 80's. The trailers from those decades were so vague. I wish we could go back to those days. I hate having every bit of a movie shown and explained to me a million times before I see it. I much prefer vague.

Chrono Trigger · Post by **Chrono Trigger** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:14 am

Acid_Reign said: The Ultimate Universe isn’t trying to pass itself off as the originals though. There’s a reason they use the “ultimate” modifier, and that’s to differentiate it from mainstream Marvel continuity. What we have here is a movie that claims it’s Dragonball, despite not resembling it in the least, without apology or explanation. Yes, most fans will of course set this apart from the rest and consider it its own thing, but that doesn’t mean they’re excused from abandoning a good chunk of the story, and it doesn’t fulfill the promise of a live-action Dragon Ball for me.

All I can say is nobody promised you anything. It's should be pretty obvious who they DIDN'T have in mind when they were making this movie.

Acid_Reign said: I don’t see how a sequel could be somehow more faithful than its unfaithful predecessor unless it completely scrapped the existing continuity.

All they have to say is "Goku defeated Piccolo blah blah years ago, and go from there. It should be easier to adapt a smaller story arc. In the first movie their trying to sum 153 episodes in 90 minutes. If the first movie is successful they won't rush things, they'll take their time with the filming, and take more chances with the writing.

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:50 am

Acid_Reign wrote:The Ultimate Universe isn’t trying to pass itself off as the originals though.

...Neither is this movie. I don't understand why anyone ever thought it was or would. Like Chrono said, they didn't "promise" jack.

Acid_Reign wrote:
SSj Kaboom wrote:As well as an homage to Pilaf, it seems.
How? Has Pilaf even been mentioned at all?

"Hmmm... I don't think we can really do anything with this Pilaf guy. Too freaky-looking. But hey, we can work with his henchwoman here. That'll be interesting."

SonEric84 · Post by **SonEric84** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:51 am

Chrono Trigger wrote:Nothing about that trailer is even remotely close to Power Rangers.

I agree, but nothing about it screams "Dragon Ball" either.

shinmaru · Post by **shinmaru** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 9:46 am

Acid_Reign wrote:
Captain Awesome wrote:Two mirrors, courtesy of Toreto and Kaboom .

http://www.sendspace.com/file/kev2y9

http://rapidshare.com/files/150048496/D ... o.flv.html
Thank you gentlemen.

EDIT: Just watched it (about 4 times), and I guess I’m trying to find something distinctly DB about it, but it just looks like a generic fantasy-themed action movie. I already wasn’t expecting much, but this? Bleh.

Really this sucks hope they wont make z,
Dbz is anime its to mutch for movie

Acid_Reign · Post by **Acid_Reign** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 9:59 am

Chrono Trigger wrote:All I can say is nobody promised you anything. It's should be pretty obvious who they DIDN'T have in mind when they were making this movie.

Well yeah, it’s obvious now, but that doesn’t mean it was obvious from the get-go, nor did it have to be this way.

All they have to say is "Goku defeated Piccolo blah blah years ago, and go from there. It should be easier to adapt a smaller story arc. In the first movie their trying to sum 153 episodes in 90 minutes. If the first movie is successful they won't rush things, they'll take their time with the filming, and take more chances with the writing.

But it will still have to hold on to all of the stupid story elements from this one in order to make sense. They can take all the time in the world on it but it won’t make it any better; the damage is already done.

And really, more chances with the writing? Is that a good thing? I guess what they’ve done to it now is technically “playing it safe” (i.e., streamlining it into a generic action flick), sad as that is, but if Hollywood didn’t have its head on backwards they would realize that taking less chances (read: making less changes) with a proven property is actually beneficial.

SSj Kaboom wrote:...Neither is this movie. I don't understand why anyone ever thought it was or would. Like Chrono said, they didn't "promise" jack.

The “promise” I refer to isn’t literal; it’s figurative. Saying “We’re making a Dragonball movie” and then delivering a movie that isn’t Dragonball is just blatant decepton. They never referred to this project as “Ultimate Dragonball” or “Dragonball Xtreme” or “Dragonball: Evolution;” it’s just “Dragonball.” And they don’t seem to care that it’s not what anyone who has seen the series or read the comics would otherwise associate with Dragon Ball.

And really, what exactly is so far-fetched about expecting a movie to resemble its source material? Are we supposed to wipe our minds clean of any previous familiarity we have with a property, merely because it’s being adapted for the screen? Think about that for a second. Film is really just another method of storytelling; it serves the exact same purpose as Television, comics, novels, or verbal exchange. There is nothing inherent about the medium that mandates fucking with established characters and plot, save maybe time constraints. But can you honestly say with a straight face that every change they’ve made to this was because of time constraints?

I think what this really comes down to is that some fans are willing to accept anything a studio calls Dragon Ball as just that, no questions asked. It was the exact same issue with the Season Sets. Every manner of excuse was invented to avoid the reality of the fact that FUNi literally butchered the series. Those that actually acknowledged this glaring flaw and FUNi’s insulting and unprofessional attempts to cover it up were derided for being “videophiles,” or “Dragon Box elitists,” even though the changes were completely avoidable and nobody would have missed them had they not occurred. If you were given the choice to pick between the Season Sets and the Dragon Boxes, almost everybody here would pick the Dragon Boxes. Why? Because it’s a better quality product. The same thing applies to the movie. If you had a choice between this adaptation and a faithful one, almost everybody here would pick the faithful one. Why? Because it’d be a better quality product. Call me a nitpicker, but I won’t ever understand this mentality of dutifully bending over for companies that don’t even have their own fans’ interests in mind and are just out to make a quick buck off of something they enjoy.

The Time Traveller · Post by **The Time Traveller** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 10:10 am

shinmaru wrote:Dbz is anime its to mutch for movie

DB was an anime too... Before Z...

Onikage725 · Post by **Onikage725** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 10:45 am

JulieYBM wrote:Chris Sabat for narrator.

Screw that. Pablo Francisco for narrator.

Chrono Trigger · Post by **Chrono Trigger** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 11:09 am

Acid_Reign said: But it will still have to hold on to all of the stupid story elements from this one in order to make sense. They can take all the time in the world on it but it won’t make it any better; the damage is already done.

No seriously all they have to say is that Goku was a powerful martial artist who grew up and saved the world from the demonic Piccolo and then go from there. If there taking more chances with the writing then they'll follow the source material more closely. Which will be easy because they are trying to adapt an entire story arc and not 16 volumes of manga. What they are clearly trying to do is set up a trilogy. It's the Piccolo Arc, The Saiyan Arc, and The Freeza arc. They're taking from the Manga's plot and building their own continuity. It might not be how you would do it or what you want but once again FOX didn't promise you anything and they don't owe you anything. All they care about is making money.

Acid_Reign said: I think what this really comes down to is that some fans are willing to accept anything a studio calls Dragon Ball as just that, no questions asked.

Well I can't speak for anyone else but it's not a big deal to me. It's just a movie and I knew from the start they would never do it right anyway. I don't feel like they owe me anything and I don't think there was any "invisible" or "implied" promise. They announced they were making a Dragon Ball movie and I thought "Well this will just be their take on the series." and that's all it is. As long as I'm entertained I really don't care if the story is an exact replica of Dragon Ball Vol.1. If I wanna see that then I'll READ DRAGON BALL VOL.1!

Acid_Reign said: If you were given the choice to pick between the Season Sets and the Dragon Boxes...

I would pick the Season Sets because I can't speak or understand Japanese!

Acid_Reign said: Call me a nitpicker, but I won’t ever understand this mentality of dutifully bending over for companies that don’t even have their own fans’ interests in mind and are just out to make a quick buck off of something they enjoy.

You're right. Nobody should be allowed to try and enjoy something for what it is. It's not about watching a fun action/adventure movie! It's about being able to walk into a theater with Vol.1 of the manga and being able to follow along and yell out spoilers to all the people that don't know what's going on. Nobody is "bending over" for anyone. I'm just going to the movies to see a movie that just happens to be called "DRAGON BALL". If it's good it's good and if it's not then it's not.

SSJToreto · Post by **SSJToreto** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 11:24 am

Chrono Trigger wrote:
Acid_Reign said: If you were given the choice to pick between the Season Sets and the Dragon Boxes...
I would pick the Season Sets because I can't speak or understand Japanese!

Erh... Don't lie. You have the super rare, hard to find, "200,000 yen" worth Dragon Boxes next to the season set's... You're telling me you leave the Dragon Boxes, and take the season set's?! Lies.