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by Herms » Sat Oct 04, 2008 9:15 pm
Forgotten Hero wrote:"Yeah, that blurry little promotional manga blurb is soon to be Vegeta's little brother. The new Dragonball 35 minute short to be shown during the Jump Super Anime Tour will feature this bouncy little bundle of violent rage. Now since King Vegeta, Vegeta's father, is long dead and Vegeta-sei, Vegeta's home planent, is long destroyed, how does one come about such a plothole of a brother?
As of right now, fans are speculating a bastard." - MFG
They're a little behind on things, I guess. The special has already aired three times, and that promotional picture from Jump was only released after the first airing, so there's nothing "soon to be" about it. And going by every summary of the special, Tarble is a passive weakling who gets his brother and friends to fight for him, rather than a "little bundle of violent rage". And there's nothing to indicate that he's a bastard son (how would that even solve the plothole?).
Oh, and the Japanese name for Planet Vegeta is "Wakusei Vegeta", not "Vegeta-sei".
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by Raki » Sun Oct 05, 2008 1:51 am
SaiyaMel wrote:Could this be the biggest plothole in the history of DB?
No. King Vegeta screws a Saiyan hooker, makes a weak kid. Sends him off before the planet is destroyed. Table only grows to be a midget...somewhat like Vegeta.
The series doesn't start with the arrival of Raditz. Stop being lazy and watch Dragonball.
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by Herms » Sun Oct 05, 2008 2:30 am
Raki wrote:No. King Vegeta screws a Saiyan hooker, makes a weak kid. Sends him off before the planet is destroyed. Table only grows to be a midget...somewhat like Vegeta.
Why the idea that King Vegeta had him with someone besides the queen? There doesn't seem to be anything in the special to suggest Table and Vegeta are merely half-brothers, and I don't see how that contributes to explaining Table's existence.
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by Raki » Sun Oct 05, 2008 2:33 am
Herms wrote:Raki wrote:No. King Vegeta screws a Saiyan hooker, makes a weak kid. Sends him off before the planet is destroyed. Table only grows to be a midget...somewhat like Vegeta.
Why the idea that King Vegeta had him with someone besides the queen? There doesn't seem to be anything in the special to suggest Table and Vegeta are merely half-brothers, and I don't see how that contributes to explaining Table's existence.
Is there anything to state the Queen was alive until Planet Vegeta's destruction?
The series doesn't start with the arrival of Raditz. Stop being lazy and watch Dragonball.
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by Herms » Sun Oct 05, 2008 2:42 am
Raki wrote:Is there anything to state the Queen was alive until Planet Vegeta's destruction?
I don't think there's any mention of the queen outside Daizenshuu 7's timeline, which lists the year King Vegeta married her. So no, but there's nothing saying she died, and all in all in the absence of any information to the contrary, it's simplier to assume she died in Planet Vegeta's destruction like everybody else.
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by Chibi Mystic Gohan » Sun Oct 05, 2008 3:18 am
Raki wrote:Herms wrote:Raki wrote:No. King Vegeta screws a Saiyan hooker, makes a weak kid. Sends him off before the planet is destroyed. Table only grows to be a midget...somewhat like Vegeta.
Why the idea that King Vegeta had him with someone besides the queen? There doesn't seem to be anything in the special to suggest Table and Vegeta are merely half-brothers, and I don't see how that contributes to explaining Table's existence.
Is there anything to state the Queen was alive until Planet Vegeta's destruction?
Why exactly does that matter? The king was killed by Freeza the day the planet was destroyed, I think, so it doesn't matter who he screwed. Tarble is still at least 38.
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by Forgotten Hero » Sun Oct 05, 2008 4:32 am
Bah, women don't matter in the series! jk
Saiyajin Queen, does it really matter? Not really, the story carries on perfectly well without queens. Hell, there was a queen of Earth neither.
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by Herms » Sun Oct 05, 2008 4:37 am
Forgotten Hero wrote:Saiyajin Queen, does it really matter? Not really, the story carries on perfectly well without queens. Hell, there wasn't a queen of Earth neither.
Sure there was a queen of the Earth, though they never showed her because she was a real bitch.
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by Forgotten Hero » Sun Oct 05, 2008 4:48 am
I don't remember that...
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by Herms » Sun Oct 05, 2008 4:54 am
Forgotten Hero wrote:I don't remember that...
Sorry, that was just a bad pun...
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by Super Ghost Kamikaze » Sun Oct 05, 2008 5:03 am
Herms wrote:Forgotten Hero wrote:I don't remember that...
Sorry, that was just a bad pun...
..I laughed.
But yeah, Hero. The king was a dog. The queen would be female, and we'd assume she was a dog as well.
As such, the queen would be a female dog, AKA a bitch.
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by Forgotten Hero » Sun Oct 05, 2008 5:09 am
Super Ghost Kamikaze wrote:Herms wrote:Forgotten Hero wrote:I don't remember that...
Sorry, that was just a bad pun...
..I laughed.
But yeah, Hero. The king was a dog. The queen would be female, and we'd assume she was a dog as well.
As such, the queen would be a female dog, AKA a bitch.
I know the King is a Dog. The bitch part wasn't that funny. Not when you hear random people say bitch two to three time per sentence...kids!
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by Super Ghost Kamikaze » Sun Oct 05, 2008 5:27 am
Forgotten Hero wrote:Super Ghost Kamikaze wrote:Herms wrote:
Sorry, that was just a bad pun...
..I laughed.
But yeah, Hero. The king was a dog. The queen would be female, and we'd assume she was a dog as well.
As such, the queen would be a female dog, AKA a bitch.
I know the King is a Dog. The bitch part wasn't that funny. Not when you hear random people say bitch two to three time per sentence...kids!
Oh, stop bitching.

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by Forgotten Hero » Sun Oct 05, 2008 5:31 am
Fine I will! I'm moving to New Jersey!
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by fogdark » Sun Oct 05, 2008 5:46 pm
I found these really small pics, of what seems to be a magazine talking about the special.

There Goku holding a radish (he's wearing his old gi), Goten and Trunks doing the fusion dance, the entire group looking at something (Table's arrival? maybe? there's Abo and Kado, and their fused form, Aka. Also Vegeta, Goku throwing a Kamehameha.
And the other picture, only Table and Gure.
Here where I found them.... maybe some Japanese speaking people can read it and look for some clues to find bigger pictures?? please?,
http://ameblo.jp/predators714/entry-10142191896.html
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by Cypher » Sun Oct 05, 2008 5:51 pm
I wonder if the top-left part of the second scan shows Aka in scale with Goten...o_O
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by LeprikanGT » Sun Oct 05, 2008 5:59 pm
That would be awesome if he grew that big.
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by JulieYBM » Sun Oct 05, 2008 6:00 pm
So Vegeta really is wearing his Saiyan outfit in this special...
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by SSj_Rambo » Sun Oct 05, 2008 6:25 pm
Cypher wrote:I wonder if the top-left part of the second scan shows Aka in scale with Goten...o_O
Looks like it, since the picture (that seems to be a snapshot from the special) at the lower right corner of that one seems to show those two in the same scale. Pretty neat!
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by Cypher » Sun Oct 05, 2008 6:32 pm
If so, at least it's something a bit different; I thought he'd just be a bit bigger than Abo and Kado. Could make for an interesting fight despite the slightly 'been there done that' nature of a Freeza-underling opponent.
Also I'm glad that Vegeta's Saiyajin armour duds get one more airing
