Unknown Saiyans

[Super Saiyan Turlast x4]

I forgot about the blue haired Saiyan. Vegeta seemed to have been inaccurate about his assessment on full Saiyans only havin black hair.

[SaiyaMel]

No where did Vegeta say that all Saiyan hair is black, but he did mention that a fullblood Saiyan's hair doesn't grow or change beyond its original length/shape... it it was Toriyama who stated about fullbloods always having black hair.

[Pain]

I forgot about the blue haired Saiyan. Vegeta seemed to have been inaccurate about his assessment on full Saiyans only havin black hair.

A plot hole. Don't delve into it.

[SaiyaMel]

Toriyama told the staff that full Saiyan hair is to be black, but Toei had their own ideas...

[Captain Awesome]

I forgot about the blue haired Saiyan. Vegeta seemed to have been inaccurate about his assessment on full Saiyans only havin black hair.

A plot hole. Don't delve into it.

Not if you're going by the manga.

Toei threw in the blue hair to break up the monotony, for all we know it's a humanoid alien wearing Saiya-jin armour and a tail accessory

[Rocketman]

No where did Vegeta say that all Saiyan hair is black, but he did mention that a fullblood Saiyan's hair doesn't grow or change beyond its original length/shape... it it was Toriyama who stated about fullbloods always having black hair.

Vegeta says it after Trunks kills Freeza, when they're waiting for Goku to come back.

"Don't you know all Saiyans have black hair?"

[SaiyaMel]

Damn, my memory is kinda rusty.

[Bussani]

Isn't Vegeta's hair a very dark brown though? Eh, maybe that's just Toei again, like changing Bulma's hair from purple to green.

[Rocketman]

Isn't Vegeta's hair a very dark brown though? Eh, maybe that's just Toei again, like changing Bulma's hair from purple to green.

It's solid black in the manga, though that could be discounted if Vegeta hadn't said the "all black hair" comment.

Besides, if we go by Toei, his hair's bright red.

[Saiyan-Professor]

I forgot about the blue haired Saiyan. Vegeta seemed to have been inaccurate about his assessment on full Saiyans only havin black hair.

It could be explained away by saying that someone in the past the Saiyan’s bloodline was tainted via outside sources. Some of the Saiyans that we know today are really of a mixed race variety (hybrids) and in some instances that becomes apparent by the appearance a Saiyan here or there have different hair colors. Just like the Klingons lost, their cranial ridges at one point in the history (see Star Trek Enterprise and TOS) but later they returned in the Next Generation and Deep Space 9 series. The majority of Saiyans have black hair but there are a few that shows up to show that something is out of the norm happened in their past. Even in those images, I posted shows a female Saiyan with blue hair and that was after the Vegeta red hair incident. Mike’s notes from Toriyama concerning his thoughts on how Bardock and his crew should look, Toriyama said that Saiyans hair are generally black but that was not set in stone.

[Rocketman]

It could be explained away by saying that someone in the past the Saiyan’s bloodline was tainted via outside sources. Some of the Saiyans that we know today are really of a mixed race variety (hybrids) and in some instances that becomes apparent by the appearance a Saiyan here or there have different hair colors.

Given Vegeta's disdain/hatred for Gohan and Trunks, and the Saiyan way of killing someone you don't like.... I really doubt hybrid Saiyans would be allowed to live, especially not on planet Vegeta and especially not in the King's personal corps.

[Saiyan-Professor]

It could be explained away by saying that someone in the past the Saiyan’s bloodline was tainted via outside sources. Some of the Saiyans that we know today are really of a mixed race variety (hybrids) and in some instances that becomes apparent by the appearance a Saiyan here or there have different hair colors.

Given Vegeta's disdain/hatred for Gohan and Trunks, and the Saiyan way of killing someone you don't like.... I really doubt hybrid Saiyans would be allowed to live, especially not on planet Vegeta and especially not in the King's personal corps.

I believe that his dislike for Son Gohan and Trunks was because they were stronger than he was on some occasions. Then we do not know what the Saiyans attitude were back then, since they love the concept of power and strength then they might have respected and accepted them as long as they were not stronger than the king (look what happened to Broli and he was a full blood Saiyan).

[Rocketman]

I believe that his dislike for Son Gohan and Trunks was because they were stronger than he was on some occasions. Then we do not know what the Saiyans attitude were back then, since they love the concept of power and strength then they might have respected and accepted them as long as they were not stronger than the king (look what happened to Broli and he was a full blood Saiyan).

Gohan and Trunks were never stronger than Vegeta except for Trunks going SSJ vs Freeza, that brief period with U2SSJ, and Gohan's SSJ2 at the Cell Games. (And Mystic Gohan, but Vegeta didn't know about that until after the Saga ends.)

[Saiyan-Professor]

I believe that his dislike for Son Gohan and Trunks was because they were stronger than he was on some occasions. Then we do not know what the Saiyans attitude were back then, since they love the concept of power and strength then they might have respected and accepted them as long as they were not stronger than the king (look what happened to Broli and he was a full blood Saiyan).

Gohan and Trunks were never stronger than Vegeta except for Trunks going SSJ vs Freeza, that brief period with U2SSJ, and Gohan's SSJ2 at the Cell Games. (And Mystic Gohan, but Vegeta didn't know about that until after the Saga ends.)

I said on “some occasions” and if you take into account, Dragonball GT Vegeta surpassed Son Gohan because even if he kept up his training he would not progress at all. He would just maintain his Buu Saga combat strength.

[Rocketman]

I said on “some occasions”

Yes, but Vegeta's disdain for the half breeds happens before all of those occasions, except for Trunks killing Freeza. And he immediately hates Trunks afterwards.

[Horgus]

Yes, but Vegeta's disdain for the half breeds happens before all of those occasions, except for Trunks killing Freeza. And he immediately hates Trunks afterwards.

Hating your own son (from the future) is just the badass thing to do.

[Saiyan-Professor]

I said on “some occasions”

Yes, but Vegeta's disdain for the half breeds happens before all of those occasions, except for Trunks killing Freeza. And he immediately hates Trunks afterwards.

He hated Son Gohan because he was Kakarrot’s son who in turn he felt was a traitor to the Saiyan race. It was primarily a prejudice inspired the fact that hybrids had a power advantage. Remember the conversation with Nappa at the beginning of the Saiyan story arc concerning super Saiyans.

[Chibi Mystic Gohan]

I forgot about the blue haired Saiyan. Vegeta seemed to have been inaccurate about his assessment on full Saiyans only havin black hair.

It could be explained away by saying that someone in the past the Saiyan’s bloodline was tainted via outside sources. Some of the Saiyans that we know today are really of a mixed race variety (hybrids) and in some instances that becomes apparent by the appearance a Saiyan here or there have different hair colors. Just like the Klingons lost, their cranial ridges at one point in the history (see Star Trek Enterprise and TOS) but later they returned in the Next Generation and Deep Space 9 series. The majority of Saiyans have black hair but there are a few that shows up to show that something is out of the norm happened in their past. Even in those images, I posted shows a female Saiyan with blue hair and that was after the Vegeta red hair incident. Mike’s notes from Toriyama concerning his thoughts on how Bardock and his crew should look, Toriyama said that Saiyans hair are generally black but that was not set in stone.

[snip]

If that were true, Vegeta wouldn't have said that Trunks absolutely couldn't be a Saiyan because of his hair color.

[Saiyan-Professor]

I forgot about the blue haired Saiyan. Vegeta seemed to have been inaccurate about his assessment on full Saiyans only havin black hair.

It could be explained away by saying that someone in the past the Saiyan’s bloodline was tainted via outside sources. Some of the Saiyans that we know today are really of a mixed race variety (hybrids) and in some instances that becomes apparent by the appearance a Saiyan here or there have different hair colors. Just like the Klingons lost, their cranial ridges at one point in the history (see Star Trek Enterprise and TOS) but later they returned in the Next Generation and Deep Space 9 series. The majority of Saiyans have black hair but there are a few that shows up to show that something is out of the norm happened in their past. Even in those images, I posted shows a female Saiyan with blue hair and that was after the Vegeta red hair incident. Mike’s notes from Toriyama concerning his thoughts on how Bardock and his crew should look, Toriyama said that Saiyans hair are generally black but that was not set in stone.

[snip]

If that were true, Vegeta wouldn't have said that Trunks absolutely couldn't be a Saiyan because of his hair color.

I am not saying that was the case I was just speculating but just like, with the Klingons eventually those external changes reverted to the original state. Therefore, the cranial ridges was the norm once again. However, according to some Star Trek sources like novels etc., there was some none cranial ridged Klingons still around but they were few and isolated. So when they were seen by the general populace they did not believe them to be Klingons or they pulled a Worf and said that they do not talk about that part of their past. They believed them to be an embarrassing aspect of their history. So theoretically speaking and if that was the case with Saiyans it wouldn’t be strange for Vegeta to make that statement.

[omegacwa]

Vegeta in a lot of pictures has a brown shine on his hair. While Goku will have a light gray or white shine. I think the whole "all saiyans have black hair" was said and forgotten just as fast.