Very odd question regarding Vegeta

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Post by saiyanprincess » Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:29 am

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Scarz wrote:Hmm good point. Scratch that, Vegeta was 100% Viking. Plunge, kill, and rape all the way.
That's very rude to the Vikings, you know. They established a large trading empire , and some were trusted enough to serve as the personal bodyguards of the Byzantine Emperors.

Hmmmm Vikings = Trading empire... Saiyans= Planet purging empire... Clean the planet, sell the planet make money.... I guess they could have been classed as some sort of bodyguards they did listen to Freeza's commands, and most were shit scared to defy him.

The Saiyans were the vikings of space! :P
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Post by Rocketman » Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:31 am

saiyanprincess wrote:Hmmmm Vikings = Trading empire... Saiyans= Planet purging empire... Clean the planet, sell the planet make money....
No, no, I meant it literally. They'd sail in and be all "hey guys, we got stuff for trade" and the guys'd be all "sweet, we got stuff too" and they'd trade and everyone goes home happy.

Then the Vikings'd go burn down England again, but eh. :P

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Post by saiyanprincess » Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:36 am

:P Hehe that's so mean! They just come to my country steal my chickens and then burn the place down. Meh.

I still guess the Saiyans were kind of like that, they flew to planets, cleaned them of anything living and then sold the planet and resources to the highest bidder.

I bet they had an account on Ebay or some sort of Ebay planet website thingy. Log in.... *Ooooh planet zoras has been sold for 68 billion jewels. Total of five aliens bid, the winner is.....*
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Post by Saiyan-Professor » Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:26 pm

saiyanprincess wrote::P Hehe that's so mean! They just come to my country steal my chickens and then burn the place down. Meh.

I still guess the Saiyans were kind of like that, they flew to planets, cleaned them of anything living and then sold the planet and resources to the highest bidder.

I bet they had an account on Ebay or some sort of Ebay planet website thingy. Log in.... *Ooooh planet zoras has been sold for 68 billion jewels. Total of five aliens bid, the winner is.....*
That reminds me of a scene in the anime where Freeza was sitting waiting on Zarbon to return with Vegeta or someone to return with the Dragonballs I forget exactly what was going on. Nevertheless, while he was waiting he was looking at some kind of archive or registry of various planets and whether were worth taking over it not. It listed the planet’s natural resources etc. it makes me wonder whether others had access to this data as well and would they have auctions were certain groups or alien races would bid on these planets in the manner that you mentioned.
The Saiyans are very much like the Klingons and Jem'Hadar.

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Post by Thanos6 » Wed Oct 15, 2008 3:14 pm

Vegeta doesn't strike me as the rapist type. Not because of any morals on his part--by all accounts, pre-death of Future Trunks, he didn't HAVE morals--but more of a pride thing, like everything with him. If he wants sex, he doesn't need to force it. He can get it. And if he can't get it from who he wants it from, he kills them.

Your lower-class Saiyans, on the other hand...I can really easily see, say, rapist Raditz.
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Post by saiyanprincess » Wed Oct 15, 2008 3:50 pm

Thanos6 wrote:Vegeta doesn't strike me as the rapist type. Not because of any morals on his part--by all accounts, pre-death of Future Trunks, he didn't HAVE morals--but more of a pride thing, like everything with him. If he wants sex, he doesn't need to force it. He can get it. And if he can't get it from who he wants it from, he kills them.

Your lower-class Saiyans, on the other hand...I can really easily see, say, rapist Raditz.

I totally agree with you!
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Post by SSJ2bardock » Wed Oct 15, 2008 4:23 pm

Rocketman wrote:
saiyanprincess wrote:Hmmmm Vikings = Trading empire... Saiyans= Planet purging empire... Clean the planet, sell the planet make money....
No, no, I meant it literally. They'd sail in and be all "hey guys, we got stuff for trade" and the guys'd be all "sweet, we got stuff too" and they'd trade and everyone goes home happy.

Then the Vikings'd go burn down England again, but eh. :P
:lol: I'm sorry but I just thought that line was hilarious, picturing a viking saying that and all.
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Post by Yasai-R-Mighty » Thu Oct 16, 2008 6:06 pm

Thanos6 wrote:Vegeta doesn't strike me as the rapist type. Not because of any morals on his part--by all accounts, pre-death of Future Trunks, he didn't HAVE morals--but more of a pride thing, like everything with him. If he wants sex, he doesn't need to force it. He can get it. And if he can't get it from who he wants it from, he kills them.

Your lower-class Saiyans, on the other hand...I can really easily see, say, rapist Raditz.
Yes, this scenario to me seems to fit Vegeta's personality best, as far as I see it. He might have been devoid of moral scruples, but he's to much of a snob to force himself on someone. What would that say about the great prince after all, that he's desperate? How pathetic! :p....Of course someone giving "it" to you out of fear is arguably another form of rape but yeah...

Looking at it this way, that would also account for the clip that SSj Rambo posted, (yes yes not canonical) he rejects the porn because he'd find it insulting, as if it were an implication that he wouldn't be able to get the real thing! Still I suppose there might be a slight chance that he was so preoccupied with getting strong that for a time, he was a 30+ virgin. :shock:

I do totally see Napa and Radditz as being conventional rapists, they probably treated alien women, as disposable living blow up dolls, use once then discard.
Super Ghost Kamikaze wrote:She came to respect SOME aspect of Vegeta, made it clear she was sexually available, and Vegeta went for it because it doesn't seem like he had a chance to stick it in anybody for the past few years.
I always imagined that she fell into the same trap, as the little fanfic authoresses who fantasize about having Vegeta as boyfriend, she actually believed that deep down inside, he was just a "unique sensitive daffodil" that was putting up a front, and who just needed the right women to come long and change him. She's arrogant enough to believe that, ultimately I guess she got lucky and it actually worked. That doesn't change the fact that there must be something wrong with you, if you're putting out for the guy that intended to wipe, your friends, family, and entire planet, for shits and giggles at one time, but yeah that's a thread for another day.
saiyanprincess wrote:Personally I have my doubts that Freeza likes boobies Wink I think he prefers a little bum-cheek.
Me too! I think Zarbon was his man whore actually.

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Post by saiyanprincess » Fri Oct 17, 2008 4:31 pm

saiyanprincess wrote:Personally I have my doubts that Freeza likes boobies Wink I think he prefers a little bum-cheek.
Me too! I think Zarbon was his man whore actually.
That is so true! Zarbon was Freeza's bitch! :shock:
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Post by Sedorna » Fri Oct 17, 2008 6:00 pm

Yasai-R-Mighty wrote: I always imagined that she fell into the same trap, as the little fanfic authoresses who fantasize about having Vegeta as boyfriend, she actually believed that deep down inside, he was just a "unique sensitive daffodil" that was putting up a front, and who just needed the right women to come long and change him. She's arrogant enough to believe that, ultimately I guess she got lucky and it actually worked. That doesn't change the fact that there must be something wrong with you, if you're putting out for the guy that intended to wipe, your friends, family, and entire planet, for shits and giggles at one time, but yeah that's a thread for another day.
Actually, I don't think that Bulma had sex with Vegeta because she believed that she could reveal Vegeta's true daffodilness. I think that she was simply really horny, and he was available.

Sure, she's arrogant, but remember when the gang all meet Baby Trunks for the first time? When asked where Vegeta is, she replies (and here I'm paraphrasing, because I don't have the exact, word for word quote handy), "How the heck should I know where that jerk is? He doesn't live with me." To me, that shows that she doesn't really give a damn about Vegeta, and wasn't even considering trying to change him.

As for why she'd have sex with Vegeta, I guess it depends on how long after her breakup with Yamcha she did it. I believe Trunks said that they had been broken up for awhile, yet I don't really trust what Trunks has to say on the issue. Not that I'm accusing him of lying, I'm accusing Bulma of fudging or misremembering the truth. Sure, there's no evidence for this, but, IMHO, it does make a bit of sense that Bulma caught Yamcha cheating on her. (Or what she considers cheating, which might be just talking to a girl who asked him directions or something. Bulma's kind of hypocritical in that regards. She can flash her boobies to anybody, but heaven forbid Yamcha be in the same time zone as another pretty girl.)

Anyways, she's mad at Yamcha, and wants some action. Vegeta's there and since he is, in many ways, quite different from Yamcha, he's perfect, and so she seduces him. Wham-bam-thank-you-ma'am and nine months later, we get Trunks!

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Post by JulieYBM » Fri Oct 17, 2008 6:25 pm

Well, we must assume they had something going on if Vegeta was pissed at his wife being whored out to Elder Kaiôshin...
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Post by Sedorna » Fri Oct 17, 2008 11:23 pm

JulieYBM wrote:Well, we must assume they had something going on if Vegeta was pissed at his wife being whored out to Elder Kaiôshin...
Yeah, but that was *way* after they had conceived Trunks. I don't argue in the least that they eventually fell in love. But their relationship originally began as one based on horniness and convenience.

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Post by Yasai-R-Mighty » Sat Oct 18, 2008 8:45 pm

Sedorna wrote:Actually, I don't think that Bulma had sex with Vegeta because she believed that she could reveal Vegeta's true daffodilness. I think that she was simply really horny, and he was available.

Sure, she's arrogant, but remember when the gang all meet Baby Trunks for the first time? When asked where Vegeta is, she replies (and here I'm paraphrasing, because I don't have the exact, word for word quote handy), "How the heck should I know where that jerk is? He doesn't live with me." To me, that shows that she doesn't really give a damn about Vegeta, and wasn't even considering trying to change him.

As for why she'd have sex with Vegeta, I guess it depends on how long after her breakup with Yamcha she did it. I believe Trunks said that they had been broken up for awhile, yet I don't really trust what Trunks has to say on the issue. Not that I'm accusing him of lying, I'm accusing Bulma of fudging or misremembering the truth. Sure, there's no evidence for this, but, IMHO, it does make a bit of sense that Bulma caught Yamcha cheating on her. (Or what she considers cheating, which might be just talking to a girl who asked him directions or something. Bulma's kind of hypocritical in that regards. She can flash her boobies to anybody, but heaven forbid Yamcha be in the same time zone as another pretty girl.)
Oh I don't doubt she had sex with him, primarily because she was horny, nor that being angry with Yamcha fueled her motivations, but there dose seem an attraction on her part towards Vegeta, that seems to go beyond sexual. I think she at least admired him, and maybe came to belief that he could change, and like I said before she's lucky it worked...I've always felt bad for Yamcha, when it comes to this love triangle.


Sedorna wrote:Anyways, she's mad at Yamcha, and wants some action. Vegeta's there and since he is, in many ways, quite different from Yamcha, he's perfect, and so she seduces him.
Yeah he'd scare most pretty girls away. :D
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