Umm...the link still brings you to the “404 Error - Not Found” page.Hujio wrote:I did, thanks. I fixed it already, but if you find anything else, let me know.SSj_Rambo wrote:Did you get that message I sent you via Kanzentai about that broken link?
Where was it mentioned that he could ever lose it?Saiyan-Professor wrote:If these character sheets are any indication of anything, the following takes place. Tenshinhan and Chiaotzu are missing in action as usual. It takes place before ma and pa Briefs and Gyû-maô dies (since they were absent in GT). Son Gohan may or may not still have the “Ultimate” power-up. Karin is absent and Gotenks will not go Super Saiyan 3 in the fight.
The sheets are actually that big. Mike had been resizing them so they'd fit on the home page.SSj_Rambo wrote:And I had no idea that the character sheets were really that big. And I love the one of Tarble’s space pod!
Yes they are! Even some of the Japanese is a little off.Chibi Mystic Gohan wrote:Like I thought, the name spellings on these sheets are ridiculous.
That is because that link had the wrong URL address, which I fixed on the respective page that was linking to it. It should have been http://www.kanzentai.com/guide/dvd/dbox ... ctions.jpg instead of http://www.kanzentai.com/scouter_instructions.jpg .SSj_Rambo wrote:Umm...the link still brings you to the “404 Error - Not Found” page.
Well I hold to Dragonball GT as the conclusion to the series so in my world, he lost it or his laziness resulted in his being unable to utilize the full effects of it later. The most I would allow is that he was fighting with a “Z” level combat power in GT whereas the villains were beyond that level of power.SSj_Rambo wrote:Where was it mentioned that he could ever lose it?Saiyan-Professor wrote:If these character sheets are any indication of anything, the following takes place. Tenshinhan and Chiaotzu are missing in action as usual. It takes place before ma and pa Briefs and Gyû-maô dies (since they were absent in GT). Son Gohan may or may not still have the “Ultimate” power-up. Karin is absent and Gotenks will not go Super Saiyan 3 in the fight.
Well, I'm sure you remember our conversation from awhile back, so you must have some idea. ^.^Olivier Hague wrote:"Like you thought"? And you were thinking that based on what, exactly? Facts or preconceptions?
But weren't you telling me before that we should consider "Tarble" the official spelling because of these "official" character design sheets? But now the errors are alright because they weren't supposed to be seen? And really, with crap like Buruma, Tranks, Piccoro, Vejita (which aren't even normally used by Shueisha or Toei), I wouldn't exactly say that they're "not so bad"...Olivier Hague wrote:They're not that bad, and they weren't meant for the public eye anyway. Sheesh.
Preconceptions it is, then...Chibi Mystic Gohan wrote:Well, I'm sure you remember our conversation from awhile back, so you must have some idea. ^.^
It's the only alphabet spelling we have. Period. Outside of those we could come up with, of course.But weren't you telling me before that we should consider "Tarble" the official spelling because of these "official" character design sheets?
I could also list the spellings that are fine (everything else?), but that would get boring very quickly...with crap like Buruma, Tranks, Piccoro, Vejita (which aren't even normally used by Shueisha or Toei), I wouldn't exactly say that they're "not so bad"...
Ugh, look at the mess. Would some on grab Kamikaze a towel or tissue or something?Super Ghost Kamikaze wrote:Gotenks.
Gotenks as a Super Saiyan.
Yes.
YES.
YES.
So you're saying we should settle for second best until a better source spells the name? I mean, if even series staples like Vegeta and Trunks have their names spelled incorrectly, why should I assume that whoever was transliterating these names was doing anything other than throwing darts at a list of possible spellings?Olivier Hague wrote:It's the only alphabet spelling we have. Period. Outside of those we could come up with, of course.
If tomorrow, Tôei or Shûeisha release some kind of artbook/pamphlet that spells the name as "Table", I'll gladly favor that one over something found on a character sheet.
Well, I'd say that a lot of the "official" spellings in general don't look so hot (Woolong, Pual, Gure, Abo, Cado, Marlon), but that's obviously my personal bias. For instance, I gather that "avocado" is ｱﾎﾞｶﾄﾞ in Japanese, so it makes sense that breaking the word in half to make ｱﾎ and ﾞｶﾄ would give us "Avo" and "Cado." Again, it's just my opinion, but if these character sheets can't even get the main characters' names right, why should I trust the spellings for the brand new characters?Olivier Hague wrote:I could also list the spellings that are fine (everything else?), but that would get boring very quickly...
Really, for something that was just supposed to get the job done, it's not that bad.
Not sure how it could be considered "second best" considering it's, again, the only spelling we have from them. ^^;Chibi Mystic Gohan wrote:So you're saying we should settle for second best until a better source spells the name?
Again, I could also list the names that ended up alright (even not-particularly-Japanese-sounding ones like "Videl" or "Woolong"), but that wouldn't accomplish much... Whoever that was worked at (or, at the very least, for) Tôei and we don't. Do you have anything more official at the moment?if even series staples like Vegeta and Trunks have their names spelled incorrectly, why should I assume that whoever was transliterating these names was doing anything other than throwing darts at a list of possible spellings?
If you're going to keep the pun as is in alphabet, yeah. But that's not necessarily what the author has in mind (or what he would prefer, anyway, 'cause I wouldn't assume Japanese authors have alphabet spellings in mind when they come up with names).I gather that "avocado" is ｱﾎﾞｶﾄﾞ in Japanese, so it makes sense that breaking the word in half to make ｱﾎ and ﾞｶﾄ would give us "Avo" and "Cado."
I'd say it's not even a matter of trust: we don't have any alternative at the moment.if these character sheets can't even get the main characters' names right, why should I trust the spellings for the brand new characters?
The author gets the priority. If he's not consistent, I'd go with the more common spelling. If I don't think I can tell, I'm screwed.with quite a few characters having more than one official alphabet spelling, how do you personally choose between them? Do you pick the spelling that is most aesthetically pleasing?
Gyû-maô had a brief appearence in GT.Saiyan-Professor wrote:If these character sheets are any indication of anything, the following takes place. Tenshinhan and Chiaotzu are missing in action as usual. It takes place before ma and pa Briefs and Gyû-maô dies (since they were absent in GT). Son Gohan may or may not still have the “Ultimate” power-up. Karin is absent and Gotenks will not go Super Saiyan 3 in the fight.
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