Nameks and fusing together

zain316 · Post by **zain316** » Fri Oct 24, 2008 4:33 pm

When Freeza was killing all the namekians, Why didn't the namek warriors fuse together if it gives such a powerful boost in power? Because it only took Piccolo fusing with Nail to be as strong as Freeza's first transformation. If a bunch of them fused together, then they could of injured or hurt Freeza when he was collecting the Dragon balls.

Sprite Satan · Post by **Sprite Satan** » Fri Oct 24, 2008 4:46 pm

They weren't aware of Freeza, or his sheer power. The villages weren't in contact with each other, so when Freeza and goons descended on a village, they'd just defend themselves at first, then die.

Horgus · Post by **Horgus** » Fri Oct 24, 2008 5:45 pm

Also: none of those Namekkians were of the warrior type, only Nail was.

The rest were.. uh.. non warriors. Farmers, I guess.

EDIT: I forgot to add that, apparently, only those of the warrior type could fuse themselves. Kami was warrior-type, and thus so was Piccolo.

SSj_Rambo · Post by **SSj_Rambo** » Fri Oct 24, 2008 6:14 pm

Horgus wrote:EDIT: I forgot to add that, apparently, only those of the warrior type could fuse themselves. Kami was warrior-type, and thus so was Piccolo.

I don't remember ever hearing about only warriors being able fuse, or anything directly along those lines. Do you know where that comes from?

And I'm not totally sure about Kami being a warrior, since Dende did strongly hint that Namekians can only be of one type and Kami is of the Dragon type (hence the ability to create the Dragonballs).

Horgus · Post by **Horgus** » Fri Oct 24, 2008 6:18 pm

You're probably right about Kami. He is a special exception, being that he and Piccolo were once a single being, their fusion could be seen as simply undoing their separation.

YouTube · Post by **Hujio** » Fri Oct 24, 2008 8:36 pm

Horgus wrote:Also: none of those Namekkians were of the warrior type, only Nail was.

The rest were.. uh.. non warriors. Farmers, I guess.

Nail wasn't the only warrior-type Namekian. According to Daizenshuu 4, there were at least 2 or 3 warrior-types under each elder. We know for sure that there were at least 3 warrior-types in Muuri's village, as they appear and fight Dodoria in chapter 253, though they don't last very long. There were also warrior-types that confronted Freeza when he was trying to get the password for the dragonballs from Saichourou (the Elder). Though, that was filler.

Bussani · Post by **Bussani** » Fri Oct 24, 2008 9:02 pm

"Combat castes: The Daizenshuu states that the first batch of three Namekians who fought Freeza's men were soldier-types and the second, anime only, batch of three were warrior-types. The anime states that all combat-capable Namekians (including Nail) were of the same caste and that Nail was far more powerful because he was the best of them. In both the anime and manga, Saichouro states that Nail was the only Namekian born a fighter-type."

From the Dragon Ball Wikia (http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Namekian) so I don't know exactly how reliable that information is. Can anyone confirm it?

Sprite Satan · Post by **Sprite Satan** » Fri Oct 24, 2008 9:10 pm

I wouldn't normally trust the DB Wikia as far as I could print it out, tie it together with string and throw it but it's actually likely correct (save for the Grand Elder's line, I don't see this anywhere on my subs) but the Daizenshu information is vaguely accurate if haphazardly written and sourced.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Fri Oct 24, 2008 9:10 pm

I don't recall anything about Guru saying Nail was the only warrior-type born.

Anyway, I'm going to go with "they didn't have time". The Namekians can't sense ki, Vegeta completely surprised that one village when he dropped in. Then they fight, but by the time they realize just how outmatched they were, they're already dead.

Kunzait_83 · Post by **Kunzait_83** » Fri Oct 24, 2008 10:15 pm

Bussani · Post by **Bussani** » Fri Oct 24, 2008 11:04 pm

I think what the quote is implying is that the combat Namekians can be split into 3 categories; Soldier, Warrior and Fighter, with soldier being the weakest and most plentiful while fighters are the strongest. To me it sounds more like they're ranks of the combat types of Namekians.

But you're right, it does sound fishy and I don't know if there's anything like that in the Daizenshuu.

Edit: In volume 8 of Viz's translation of the manga, Guru says:

"You will find Nail unlike the other Namekians you have murdered. Among all of us, he is our lone true warrior. He will not be defeated as easily as you imagine."

It does sound like he sets him apart from the others. Maybe the Dragon Ball Wikia quote was just referencing the difference in levels of power between the 3 types of combat Namekians seen.

Yamcha_krillin · Post by **Yamcha_krillin** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 4:54 am

Maybe they didnt know about the fusion O_0....

Horgus · Post by **Horgus** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 10:31 am

Bussani wrote: "You will find Nail unlike the other Namekians you have murdered. Among all of us, he is our lone true warrior. He will not be defeated as easily as you imagine."

It does sound like he sets him apart from the others. Maybe the Dragon Ball Wikia quote was just referencing the difference in levels of power between the 3 types of combat Namekians seen.

Well Nail had to have been stronger than all the other warrior types combined, that could be what he was referring to.

Not to mention he was almost certainly stronger than Piccolo when he first arrived on Namek.

dragonballzgtfighter · Post by **dragonballzgtfighter** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 10:13 pm

If all Namekians could fuse together how strong would the "last" Namekian be?

Casual Matt · Post by **Casual Matt** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 1:29 pm

Maybe I'm wrong on this, but I thought that Nail could only fuse with Piccolo because Piccolo was incomplete at the time.

Bussani · Post by **Bussani** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:46 pm

Casual Matt wrote:Maybe I'm wrong on this, but I thought that Nail could only fuse with Piccolo because Piccolo was incomplete at the time.

I don't remember anything like that. Nail did say "If you'd come back as your complete self you'd be able to beat him" though.

Dayspring · Post by **Dayspring** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 4:24 pm

The Namekkians are a peaceful people. I just assumed the warrior caste didn't seem that into fighting, something we see by the fact that they're all farmers. It wasn't so much that Nail was the only member of his class, just that he was the most adept at fighting, as well as the most enthousiastic about it, hence why he's so powerful.

And I think all Nameks can fuse; they just prefer not to because the fused being is a new person and the fusion is irreversable.

Thanos6 · Post by **Thanos6** » Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:11 pm

I'm just wondering how Kami could be a "Dragon" type but Piccolo a "warrior" type.

Dayspring · Post by **Dayspring** » Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:21 pm

Thanos6 wrote:I'm just wondering how Kami could be a "Dragon" type but Piccolo a "warrior" type.

Dragon types can give birth to warrior types. Piccolo is merely Demon King Piccolo's son.

Casual Matt · Post by **Casual Matt** » Mon Nov 03, 2008 9:01 pm

Dayspring wrote:
Thanos6 wrote:I'm just wondering how Kami could be a "Dragon" type but Piccolo a "warrior" type.
Dragon types can give birth to warrior types. Piccolo is merely Demon King Piccolo's son.

On a side note, I like this as an explanation as to why the original Piccolo Daimao was so much weaker than the average Namek warrior. He was actually a Dragon type.

But when he reincarnated himself in his son, the newer Piccolo Daimao we all know and love as Uncle Piccolo, he made himself into a fighting type.