The DBZ Jump Anime Tour Special (Now Streaming!)

Raki · Post by **Raki** » Sat Nov 01, 2008 11:37 pm

I hate to say this, but I would download the raw first and then wait for the DVD version. Can't say I haven't supported the Dragonball franchise with my money.

Post by **Herms** » Sat Nov 01, 2008 11:57 pm

Kunzait_83 wrote: Along with… some other anime I’ve never heard of and which looks to be terribly boring, lame, and shitty…

I am kind of puzzled at Letter Bee's inclusion as one of the Jump series to get a special for the Jump anime tour, and now as one of the only three to be screened online. It's not particularly long-running, and I've never heard of it either. Is it just very popular in Japan but word hasn't spread yet? I think it's also interesting that Naruto wasn't included in the tour at all.

Raki · Post by **Raki** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 12:00 am

Herms wrote:
Kunzait_83 wrote: Along with… some other anime I’ve never heard of and which looks to be terribly boring, lame, and shitty…
I am kind of puzzled at Letter Bee's inclusion as one of the Jump series to get a special for the Jump anime tour, and now as one of the only three to be screened online. It's not particularly long-running, and I've never heard of it either. Is it just very popular in Japan but word hasn't spread yet? I think it's also interesting that Naruto wasn't included in the tour at all.

As much as I like Naruto, it's not as popular as One Piece and Dragonball in Japan, correct?

Kunzait_83 · Post by **Kunzait_83** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 12:48 am

Olivier Hague · Post by **Olivier Hague** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 1:20 am

Kunzait_83 wrote:The U.S. version is definitely not to blame for the “Buu” spelling. Both the Japanese media and the international fandom in general have been bouncing back and forth between “Boo” and “Buu” about evenly since long before the English dub even came to exist

Maybe the Western fandom is to blame for "Buu", but Japanese material certainly isn't. They've been using "Boo" for as long as I can remember.

Deep Thought · Post by **Deep Thought** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 1:19 pm

@Kunzait

So, you hate One Peice and Naruto because it's overrated and it has fanboys, right? You're also an avid Dragon Ball fan, right?

Am I the only one who sees the irony here?

Cypher · Post by **Cypher** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 1:33 pm

So you're saying that any DragonBall fan must also be a fan of One Piece and Naruto simply because certain similarities between them exist?

Kunzait_83 · Post by **Kunzait_83** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 3:06 pm

Saago · Post by **Saago** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 3:27 pm

Kunzait_83, just out of curiosity (really), how many episodes of One Piece have you watched?

JulieYBM · Post by **JulieYBM** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 3:38 pm

The One Piece/Dragonball comparsions are made because their styles of humor are both uniquely prevalent and the characters are similarily endearing, if not more so for One Piece.

JAPPO · Post by **JAPPO** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 4:24 pm

Dragonball > Other anime > One Piece > Hamtaro > Shit > Naruto.

Anyway wasn't this about the streaming of the special?

JulieYBM · Post by **JulieYBM** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 4:29 pm

JAPPO wrote:Dragonball > Other anime > One Piece > Hamtaro > Shit > Naruto.

Anyway wasn't this about the streaming of the special?

Trying to be a jerk?

What special? This...is...er...yeah, it's a thread about the special.

JAPPO · Post by **JAPPO** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 4:42 pm

I can wait until someone uploads it to BitTorrent with subs. I use a Mac, and the Windows computer I have cannot afford more adware.

Deep Thought · Post by **Deep Thought** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 5:48 pm

I respect your opinion, and it makes a lot of sense for me now, and I don't even like One Peice and Naruto but I feel like I need to address some things.

Kunzait_83 wrote: I don’t hate One Piece and Naruto JUST because they have fanboys. EVERYTHING has fanboys. If that alone were enough to turn me away from something, I wouldn’t be a fan of anything. Hell I don't even think its fair to say I "hate" them so much as I merely dislike them and have gotten really, really fucking sick of seeing them awkwardly stapled to all things Dragon Ball in recent years as if they're some sort of three-for-one package deal that I never asked for in the first place.

Eh, I missed the three-for-one stuff. The only time I see that stuff is for Viz magazine covers, and the Battle Stadium D.O.N games. Otherwise, I've never seen that.

Kunzait_83 wrote:What also doesn’t help I’m sure is the fact that the two of them constantly pop up around anything that involves Dragon Ball these days (both in English AND Japanese media), ensuring that they’ll always be shoved down my throat in some form anytime I ever attempt to go near any website that’s dedicated to Dragon Ball to any remote capacity. So if I wanna really get away from them entirely, I’d also have to totally sacrifice my 16 year long Dragon Ball fandom, and neither of them are worth that price by a long shot.

Again, haven't really seen that kind of stuff, and when its there, it's easily ignorable.

Kunzait_83 wrote:Dragon Ball on the other hand, when divorced utterly from all of its U.S. bullshit, has a lot going for it that I love, that I’ve always loved for many, many, many, many years. Its art style and design sense is more unique and original and striking than either of the other two series, none of its principal characters really irritate me in any capacity (aside from Vegeta during the Cell arc) and are in fact quite likeable in their own bizarre way, Toriyama’s sense of humor and playfulness is utterly infectious, and its core ideas are far more imaginative. Both Naruto and One Piece’s creators freely admit that they lift ideas and inspiration from it on a regular basis. That should tell you something right there.

Dragon Ball started repeating itself after the Freeza Saga. It was the same shit, evil villian wants to destroy the earth and eventually the universe because they are evil. Z Warriors must FIGHT this evil threat. Z Warriors can't win, they train. Z Warriors are strong enough. Villian transforms. Z Warriors aren't strong enough. Z Warriors train, again, and become strong enough to confront the villian. New transformations are just randomly thrown in for fanservice and there you go, a new arc. I prefer borrowing if it keep the arc fresh.

Kunzait_83 wrote:It also had a lot of periods here and there were it totally goes against the grain of your typical Shonen manga, both in Toriyama’s sometimes Takahashi-esque whimsical gag manga sensibilities, and the fact that the Saiya-jin and Freeza sagas are WAY more brutal and dark than most Shonen series are typically willing to go these days. It’s certainly not as extreme as HnK or anything, but its miles beyond something like Shaman King or what have you. It was around during a period in the late 80's and early 90's where a lot of Shonen series weren’t afraid to straddle the line to more Seinen-ish territory in other words. For me personally, that's a HUGE plus.

Kunzait_83 wrote:And it also has this “clusterfuck of awesome” kinda thing going for it by not just focusing on any one specific theme or motif, but rather by Frankensteining together a whole MESS of cool shit from stuff that I’ve always loved as a kid, stuff from ALL OVER the fucking map across the spectrum; like old 70’s Kung Fu movie tropes, ultra violent sci-fi, demented non-sequitur humor, and ancient Asian folklore and mythology... all wrapped up into one neat package of kickass while also somehow miraculously making it all gel together into total cohesiveness.

Humuor basically stopped after Dragon Ball (the original). Throughout Dragon Ball Z (or later Dragon Ball) I didn't even crack a smile.

Kunzait_83 · Post by **Kunzait_83** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 6:01 pm

JulieYBM · Post by **JulieYBM** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 6:04 pm

Kunzait_83 wrote:
JAPPO wrote:I can wait until someone uploads it to BitTorrent with subs.
That'll take all of two seconds after Toei streams it I'm sure.

Saago wrote:Kunzait_83, just out of curiosity (really), how many episodes of One Piece have you watched?
Roughly the first 30 or 40 off of Kaizoku fansubs awhile back.

It wasn't terrible or anything by any means (and I loved the BGM for it)… it just didn’t do anything for me at all. What I saw was totally interchangeable with any other generic, average Shonen series since the dawn of time (but with pirates) and I’m frankly at a total loss as to what exactly the big deal is with it that drives people into such a frothing at the mouth frenzy over it. Then again, like I said; I’m not a Shonen guy under most normal circumstances.

It's a viewership built over years of trust between show and viewer.

Snail · Post by **Snail** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 6:08 pm

To be fair, further viewing of the series may just turn your interest around. It took a good 30 episodes for me to totally immerse myself into Bleach, which as of now, is totally not up to snuff compared to the Soul Society arc. But hey, the Diamond Dust Rebellion film made up for the borefest that is Bleach as of late I guess?

shotkeeper · Post by **shotkeeper** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 6:30 pm

Noooo I have a problem with the jump browser. I installed it but nothing pops up. Noooo, I'm missing the biggest thing in my life. I'm going to try everything to get this piece of junk work. Ok I take it back it's not a piece of junk

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Chuquita · Post by **Chuquita** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 6:34 pm

shotkeeper wrote:Noooo I have a problem with the jump browser. I installed it but nothing pops up. Noooo, I'm missing the biggest thing in my life. I'm going to try everything to get this piece of junk work. Ok I take it back it's not a piece of junk .

What OS are you using? It could be the requirements. (I saw it works with XP and Vista; I have no idea about Macs or Linux or older Windows versions).

I have Vista on my laptop and it worked fine there.