Dragon Ball Z: Season 7 Discussion

Tsukento · Post by **Tsukento** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 3:52 am

Rocketman wrote:The real Dragon Ball has no music.

I said Z, not Dragon Ball. I saw what you tried doing there.

DragoonClawNZ · Post by **DragoonClawNZ** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 4:49 am

Tsukento wrote:
DBHighDefinition wrote:No one can resist Bruce "almighty" Faulconer. XD
I can. Simply because that "music" represents a fake Dragon Ball Z.

So with you there. I can't bear listening to Bruce Faulconer's BGM anymore, Shunsuke Kikuchi's will always be the best, the god of Dragonball & Z BGM. Mark Menza is good, found his pieces much better than Faulconers but Shunsuke's is unchallengable.

shotkeeper · Post by **shotkeeper** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:18 am

I checked the screenshots really fast and I think I noticed that on the right you gain almost no footage.

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:06 am

To people jumping to conclusions about quality: THESE IMAGES ARE JPEGS FOR GOD'S SAKE! Wait until you get a .png.

SSJToreto · Post by **SSJToreto** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:08 am

jjgp1112 wrote:To people jumping to conclusions about quality: THESE IMAGES ARE JPEGS FOR GOD'S SAKE! Wait until you get a .png.

You don't need png's to see the color and cropping problems.

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:21 am

SSJToreto wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:To people jumping to conclusions about quality: THESE IMAGES ARE JPEGS FOR GOD'S SAKE! Wait until you get a .png.
You don't need png's to see the color and cropping problems.

I'm talking about how blurry it supposedly is.

JulieYBM · Post by **JulieYBM** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:46 am

Kienzan88gt wrote:
JulieYBM wrote:Say, how accurate is the dub in this season anyhow?

Again, thanks for the SSj2 Gohan clip.

Think we can get one of the Paikuhan fight (same audio)?

Cookies are in mail, yes.
Sure thing but let me know what scenes you'll want, cause if you don't tell me then I'll just pick a clip from the scene where Goku is Super Saiya-jin fighting Paikuhan I'm done for tonight though, heading to bed after We Were Angels is finished uploading to Youtube.

Here is We Gotta Power from the set: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCDh80IH81Y

How about when he transforms into a SSj or Super Kaiô-Ken?

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:49 am

Tsukento wrote:
Rocketman wrote:The real Dragon Ball has no music.
I said Z, not Dragon Ball. I saw what you tried doing there.

It's all the same, only the names have changed.

Chrono Trigger · Post by **Chrono Trigger** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:22 pm

I understand Funimation has done some things to Dragon Ball that make it pretty different from the Original but to say something as dramatic as "Oh their two different shows" is taking shit way outta the box. They both have the same amount of episodes, the same characters, and now they even have the same music. Cell crushes 16's head in the dub just like he does in the Japanese version. The show is called Dragon Ball Z over here just like it is over there. When people ask "Oh do you watch Dragon Ball Z" nobody answers "Which one? You know there's 2 right?" they answer "Why yes I do watch Dragon Ball Z."

Raki · Post by **Raki** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:26 pm

Chrono Trigger wrote:I understand Funimation has done some things to Dragon Ball that make it pretty different from the Original but to say something as dramatic as "Oh their two different shows" is taking shit way outta the box. They both have the same amount of episodes, the same characters, and now they even have the same music. Cell crushes 16's head in the dub just like he does in the Japanese version. The show is called Dragon Ball Z over here just like it is over there. When people ask "Oh do you watch Dragon Ball Z" nobody answers "Which one? You know there's 2 right?" they answer "Why yes I do watch Dragon Ball Z."

The story is what makes the show...and the story presented in each version don't match each other.

Metalwario64 · Post by **Metalwario64** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:29 pm

Raki wrote:
Chrono Trigger wrote:I understand Funimation has done some things to Dragon Ball that make it pretty different from the Original but to say something as dramatic as "Oh their two different shows" is taking shit way outta the box. They both have the same amount of episodes, the same characters, and now they even have the same music. Cell crushes 16's head in the dub just like he does in the Japanese version. The show is called Dragon Ball Z over here just like it is over there. When people ask "Oh do you watch Dragon Ball Z" nobody answers "Which one? You know there's 2 right?" they answer "Why yes I do watch Dragon Ball Z."
The story is what makes the show...and the story presented in each version don't match each other.

Oh yeah. Not at all... Not at all!

Chrono Trigger · Post by **Chrono Trigger** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:29 pm

I really don't see how. If I'm watching the DVD's and I switch back and forth between the languages the same stuff is happening. The show isn't cut up anymore so you can literally watch them side by side. If I'm talking to a dub only fan and a Japanese only fan and ask them "Yeah how about the episode where Trunks shows up for the second time and flies off to meet Piccolo and the others who are fighting Gero?" they would both know what I'm talking about. If I asked how long they trained to fight the androids they'd both be able to tell me 3 years.

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:31 pm

Chrono Trigger wrote:When people ask "Oh do you watch Dragon Ball Z" nobody answers "Which one? You know there's 2 right?" they answer "Why yes I do watch Dragon Ball Z."

As a matter of fact, when people ask me that, I do indeed respond with, "yeah, the Japanese version. English one's terrible."

To which they respond with, "Really?" And then I reply with, "Yeah, it was originally a kind of deep and often dramatic show, but the American version got turned into typical Saturday-morning kiddie junk." Which usually gets a response of "Huh, interesting," or something similar.

Kunzait_83 · Post by **Kunzait_83** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:35 pm

Chrono Trigger · Post by **Chrono Trigger** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:43 pm

Kunzait_83 wrote: *Long Post*

Ok. I understand all of that. I feel like you and SSj Kaboom are in the minority though. Maybe on your level of conversation (with all the little details and shit) they are two different shows but the same shit still happens in both versions. I can go through the story from Raditz to Buu and it's still the same thing! Yeah maybe a few times somebody said something different, maybe Goku was a little too chatty and sophisticated, and maybe Vegeta had a little too much pride but they are still the same show. I've never heard anyone (on other forums or in real life) say "Yeah I like the Original Japanese Version of Dragon Ball Z and not the English Bastardized Funimation Version. People just like "Dragon Ball". The Live Action Movie! That is what I think of when I think of a "Completely" different story.

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:49 pm

For the love of God, do we really have to turn the Season 7 thread into yet another dub argument?

SSJToreto · Post by **SSJToreto** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:50 pm

Chrono Trigger wrote:
Kunzait_83 wrote: *Long Post*
Ok. I understand all of that. I feel like you and SSj Kaboom are in the minority though. I've never heard anyone (on other forums or in real life) say "Yeah I like the Original Japanese Version of Dragon Ball Z and not the English Bastardized Funimation Version. People just like "Dragon Ball".

That's exactly what I say when being asked about Dragon Ball.

Seriously, though... I'm being serious.

Kunzait_83 · Post by **Kunzait_83** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:53 pm

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:54 pm

Chrono Trigger wrote:I feel like you and SSj Kaboom are in the minority though.

Eh, don't misunderstand me. I'm kind of in the middle. I realize full well the dub has its flaws, but so long as I have the choice to watch whichever version I want //tips hat to FUNi//, I can usually enjoy the dub in its own way. Part of it may be for nostalgic reasons and a subsequent "attachment" to the cast, but it's mostly because I don't really care so long as I have the Japanese version anyway. So let's just say I don't mind the dub, but I probably wouldn't pay for a release that ONLY includes the dub.

I'm looking forward to watching Season Seven with the 5.1 dub track on, with the subs for the Japanese version so I can compare dialogue. The Buu arc was what got me into DragonBall altogether, and I'm gonna have a blast watching through it again, regardless of which language.

jjgp1112 wrote:For the love of God, do we really have to turn the Season 7 thread into a dub argument?

It happens, dude. Chill. You're the only one being somewhat uncivil about it so far.

Kienzan88gt · Post by **Kienzan88gt** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 1:01 pm

Come on guys, lets stay on topic lol. If you want to argue about dub vs sub just go to the right thread ok?

@JulieYBM, I'll have a clip of SSJ Goku vs Paikuhan up soon, and Super Kaioken will be in it xD. Where are my cookies ;O