So when did Goku learn to fly?

[Innagadadavida]

The show never really explains this. Goku clearly didn't know when to fly on the way to fight Radditz. But somehow a little while later in other world, goku suddenly knew how to fly. There have been instances where he looked like he kind of knew how to fly, like when he fought Piccolo Jr. at the World Martial Arts Tournament.

Also, when did Gohan, Krillin, and Yamcha learn to fly? With Popo? And if so, why didn't he teach Goku?

[VegettoEX]

The show never really explains this. Goku clearly didn't know when to fly on the way to fight Radditz. But somehow a little while later in other world, goku suddenly knew how to fly. There have been instances where he looked like he kind of knew how to fly, like when he fought Piccolo Jr. at the World Martial Arts Tournament.

Also, when did Gohan, Krillin, and Yamcha learn to fly? With Popo? And if so, why didn't he teach Goku?

It's verbally noted that Goku was indeed using Bukujutsu (levitation, or flying) when he defeats Piccolo at the 23rd Tenka-ichi Budokai. Therefore, it's pretty safe to assume that he figured out something in between his training with Mr. Popo / Kami-sama, and when he actually arrived at the tournament. It could have been a spontaneous reflex reaction, sure... but that doesn't seem Goku's way.

Same goes with Kuririn; when he stops mid-air during his own fight with Piccolo, it's noted that he's learned it since everyone's last gathering.

Doesn't someone briefly banter with Tenshinhan at the tournament how they've all caught up and know how to do it, now?

As for Gohan, it's a pretty random showcase during the Vegeta battle. I suppose we're left to assume that after his survival training, Piccolo gave him some ki control tutoring. I don't remember seeing him do anything ki-based on his own, short of starting a fire to cook with, before Piccolo came back to really get things going.

[Herms]

Presumably the reason Goku took Kinto-un on his way to confront Raditz is because he didn't want to wear himself out flying and/or Kinto-un could still fly faster than he could at that point (Goku does ask Piccolo if he can keep up with Kinto-un). As we see when Goku starts out on the Serpent Road, he still doesn't have the ability to use Bukujutsu for extended periods of time; he just uses up all his energy and has to resort to walking.

[Haseowolf]

Speaking about Piccolo during the scene where they are flying to confront Raditz; does Piccolo use a regular form of bukujutsu? I mean, maybe I'm taking this from some unreliable material, but doesn't Piccolo use a form of mental levitation (i.e. psychic ability) to fly?

Also, it should also be mentioned that Goku does fly during the Raditz fight. He floats up high into the air and stands there as he looks down at Gohan in the space pod. (AH my space armor!)

[Terra-jin]

Ah bukujitsu, wasn't it Tenshinhan who first introduced this? I guess after Goku's fight against Tenshinhan he would try to achieve that ability. That was after the 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai saga. What was it again that came after that? Was it Kami's training?

[Super Saiyan Turlast x4]

Goku's battle with Tambourine/Daimao was after the Tien battle.

I think Piccolo uses regular chi for Bukujutsu, since he just states Goku's cloud wouldn't be anything compared to it. Gohan likely learned it from Piccolo, and there's no reason to believe he uses demonic chi for aerial movement, so.

[Drunken Master]

They learned it by themselves. Saw it, copied it, mastered it. Krillin used it before Goku did at the 23rd, with no special training, and Ten was impressed that he learned it by himself, as he states that.

[Sprite Satan]

It doesn't seem to be a technically difficult task, if you have some form of ki control. The greatest problem in the early days seems to have been mainly stamina related, the continuous release of ki to support you quickly draining you of energy, but when ki levels started going through the roof, it was no longer an issue.

[Dayspring]

Ah bukujitsu, wasn't it Tenshinhan who first introduced this? I guess after Goku's fight against Tenshinhan he would try to achieve that ability. That was after the 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai saga. What was it again that came after that? Was it Kami's training?

It's a technique created by Tsuru-sennin, the man who trained Tenshinhan and Chaozu. However, it seems to be as easy to learn as generic ki blasts, so I'm guessing Krillin simply learned to manipulate his ki enough as a result of sparring with Karine between the Piccolo and 23rd Budokai arcs.

Nameks seem to have the innate ability to fly. Most likely because they seem to naturally have PLs in the lower thousands, so I don't think Piccolo uses magic or evil.

[Bussani]

Presumably the reason Goku took Kinto-un on his way to confront Raditz is because he didn't want to wear himself out flying and/or Kinto-un could still fly faster than he could at that point (Goku does ask Piccolo if he can keep up with Kinto-un). As we see when Goku starts out on the Serpent Road, he still doesn't have the ability to use Bukujutsu for extended periods of time; he just uses up all his energy and has to resort to walking.

This.

And wasn't bukujutsu originally just a technique for walking/fighting on air? Even Tenshinhan didn't start using it to fly quickly from place to place until into Z if I remember right. It wasn't even until Namek that everyone had perfected it to the point that they could zoom around like Superman.

[caejones]

This is something I kinda wish the games would pick up on... except oh wait, they're all fighting games. Right. (Actually, didn't Legacy of Goku make flight more complex than "push the fly button whenever there's room"? Hmm. ).
[edit] Oh, wait. It just occured to me that "flight speed" in sagas may have been meant to accomplish something similar. [/edit]

[Thanos6]

Presumably the reason Goku took Kinto-un on his way to confront Raditz is because he didn't want to wear himself out flying and/or Kinto-un could still fly faster than he could at that point (Goku does ask Piccolo if he can keep up with Kinto-un). As we see when Goku starts out on the Serpent Road, he still doesn't have the ability to use Bukujutsu for extended periods of time; he just uses up all his energy and has to resort to walking.

This.

And wasn't bukujutsu originally just a technique for walking/fighting on air? Even Tenshinhan didn't start using it to fly quickly from place to place until into Z if I remember right. It wasn't even until Namek that everyone had perfected it to the point that they could zoom around like Superman.

Which makes Videl mastering it in ten days and zipping around easy and free even more impressive.

[Dayspring]

Presumably the reason Goku took Kinto-un on his way to confront Raditz is because he didn't want to wear himself out flying and/or Kinto-un could still fly faster than he could at that point (Goku does ask Piccolo if he can keep up with Kinto-un). As we see when Goku starts out on the Serpent Road, he still doesn't have the ability to use Bukujutsu for extended periods of time; he just uses up all his energy and has to resort to walking.

This.

And wasn't bukujutsu originally just a technique for walking/fighting on air? Even Tenshinhan didn't start using it to fly quickly from place to place until into Z if I remember right. It wasn't even until Namek that everyone had perfected it to the point that they could zoom around like Superman.

Which makes Videl mastering it in ten days and zipping around easy and free even more impressive.

Is it? She was taught by Gohan. By this point, floating was only the first step in learning to fly. What Tenshinhan and Chaozu were taught by Tsurusennin was -at that point- considered the last step.

[Thanos6]

This.

And wasn't bukujutsu originally just a technique for walking/fighting on air? Even Tenshinhan didn't start using it to fly quickly from place to place until into Z if I remember right. It wasn't even until Namek that everyone had perfected it to the point that they could zoom around like Superman.

Which makes Videl mastering it in ten days and zipping around easy and free even more impressive.

Is it? She was taught by Gohan. By this point, floating was only the first step in learning to fly. What Tenshinhan and Chaozu were taught by Tsurusennin was -at that point- considered the last step.

Erm?

Not sure I follow...

[Dayspring]

In early (arguably pre-)DB, Tenshinhan was taught how to flote. It was assumed that this was the extent of Bukujutsu, so nobody ever really develloped it until much, much later. By the time Videl learns to flote, she already knows from Gohan and Goten that flying at superspeeds is possible, so she has Gohan train her until she can. Her trainer is a hell of a lot more stronger and experienced in flying than Tenshinhan's was.

My point is that for Videl, it was just an technique to learn, whereas for Krillin, Tenshinhan, etc, it ws a technique to create.

[Bussani]

My point is that for Videl, it was just an technique to learn, whereas for Krillin, Tenshinhan, etc, it ws a technique to create.

I agree with this.

Also, my messed up quote seems to have caused problems. XD; Whoops.

[Herms]

Doesn't Gohan say something to the effect that it's impressive how fast Videl learned Bukujutsu? Granted, Goten did even better, but he could go Super Saiyan by the time he was 7, so that's not really a fair comparision.

[Dayspring]

Doesn't Gohan say something to the effect that it's impressive how fast Videl learned Bukujutsu? Granted, Goten did even better, but he could go Super Saiyan by the time he was 7, so that's not really a fair comparision.

There are two instances in which he comments on that, the first being a ploy (flattery once she first hovers) to get her to leave so she can train. But earlier he's already been greatly impressed by how strong she is. This gives me the impression that he's more impressed with how strong she is compared to regular humans than he is with how quickly she learned to fly.

Though in all fairness, she did need to learn to manipulate her ki, first. This makes me think she's as strong or stronger than Pilaf saga Goku.