Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Bussani · Post by **Bussani** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:29 pm

Rocketman wrote:I know I would.

The way I see it is, if you're fighting to save the world, it matters less about where your power came from and more about how/why you use it.

And I'd also complained about how they had to murder an entire world and all its life to get that power.

Oh yeah, didn't think of that.

Kaiser Gogeta · Post by **Kaiser Gogeta** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 8:14 pm

Super Ghost Kamikaze wrote: It seems to me that, upon being absorbed, Vegetto was too powerful and ended up taking up a larger portion of Super Buu's personality than expected. Like Fat Buu and the Kaioshin.

I agree. It should be interesting to see if and how Uub returns the favor.

Saiyan-Professor · Post by **Saiyan-Professor** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 9:17 pm

Bussani wrote:
Saiyan-Professor wrote:Toriyama could have written in the Shinseijû (Tree of Godly Might) and the human Z-Senshi could have eaten some of its fruit.
And then everyone would complain about how they didn't have to work hard enough to get their power. >_>

I do not mind giving extra power to people that deserve it, the Z-Senshi worked their ass off and gave up their lives to protect the planet on a number of occasions. Son Gohan receiving that Ultimate power-up was something that was not deserved at all. He was lazier than Yamcha. After Son Gohan gets it, he screws up so Kakarrot and Vegeta has to save the day anyway. If Toriyama wanted someone to screw up and be cannon fodder, all he had to do was stick to his original formula. Give Vegeta Super Saiyan 3 and make him look like a fool for some strange reason and then have Kakarrot defeat Chibi-Buu.

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 9:19 pm

Rocketman wrote:
Bussani wrote:
Saiyan-Professor wrote:Toriyama could have written in the Shinseijû (Tree of Godly Might) and the human Z-Senshi could have eaten some of its fruit.
And then everyone would complain about how they didn't have to work hard enough to get their power. >_>

And I'd also complained about how they had to murder an entire world and all its life to get that power.

Serves Rigal 7 right

Innagadadavida · Post by **Innagadadavida** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 9:43 pm

Saiyan-Professor wrote: If Toriyama wanted someone to screw up and be cannon fodder, all he had to do was stick to his original formula. Give Vegeta Super Saiyan 3 and make him look like a fool for some strange reason and then have Kakarrot defeat Chibi-Buu.

What!? Can you explain that in different words because you confused me.

Saiyan-Professor · Post by **Saiyan-Professor** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 10:22 pm

Innagadadavida wrote:
Saiyan-Professor wrote: If Toriyama wanted someone to screw up and be cannon fodder, all he had to do was stick to his original formula. Give Vegeta Super Saiyan 3 and make him look like a fool for some strange reason and then have Kakarrot defeat Chibi-Buu.
What!? Can you explain that in different words because you confused me.

I am speaking of what I call the “Toriyama Vegeta Formula”. First, you take Vegeta and put him through some sort of torturous training which makes him super strong (this instance that would be Super Saiyan 3). Vegeta would fight the villain and when you think that Vegeta could almost win, Toriyama has him do something ridiculous just so he could lose. Then Toriyama would have Kakarrot (Idiot #1) or Son Gohan (Idiot #2) come in and defeat the bad guy.

JulieYBM · Post by **JulieYBM** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:36 pm

I have to get get this off my chest: your attitude is gratuitous.

The Boo arc is obviously riddled with some weaker writing but to call Gokû and his sons 'idiots' is just silly and shows unhealthy signs of obsession. It's a cartoon, must you use such hateful phraseology?

Bussani · Post by **Bussani** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:38 pm

Saiyan-Professor wrote:I am speaking of what I call the “Toriyama Vegeta Formula”. First, you take Vegeta and put him through some sort of torturous training which makes him super strong (this instance that would be Super Saiyan 3). Vegeta would fight the villain and when you think that Vegeta could almost win, Toriyama has him do something ridiculous just so he could lose. Then Toriyama would have Kakarrot (Idiot #1) or Son Gohan (Idiot #2) come in and defeat the bad guy.

I like how Goku and Gohan are idiots, but Vegeta's stupidity is entirely the artist's fault.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:59 pm

Bussani wrote:I like how Goku and Gohan are idiots, but Vegeta's stupidity is entirely the artist's fault.

Probably because Goku and Gohan were consistently portrayed as rivaling a sponge for mental facilities (Goku at least is literally brain-damaged/idiot-savant), but Vegeta is portrayed as a fairly sharp cookie everywhere except when he's in a position to be the hero.

Bussani · Post by **Bussani** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:49 am

Rocketman wrote:
Bussani wrote:I like how Goku and Gohan are idiots, but Vegeta's stupidity is entirely the artist's fault.
Probably because Goku and Gohan were consistently portrayed as rivaling a sponge for mental facilities (Goku at least is literally brain-damaged/idiot-savant), but Vegeta is portrayed as a fairly sharp cookie everywhere except when he's in a position to be the hero.

It's like they're total opposites. Goku only seems to do anything smart when it's time to be the hero.

Although Vegeta at least came up with the plan that beat Buu.

Saiyan-Professor · Post by **Saiyan-Professor** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:30 am

JulieYBM wrote:I have to get get this off my chest: your attitude is gratuitous.

The Boo arc is obviously riddled with some weaker writing but to call Gokû and his sons 'idiots' is just silly and shows unhealthy signs of obsession. It's a cartoon, must you use such hateful phraseology?

Hey, I am being just as silly as all those Vegeta haters and Son Gohan lovers. When the next conversation comes around about Vegeta and they all begin to call Vegeta an “asshole”, “prick” etc. I would love for you repeat those exact same words.

Bussani · Post by **Bussani** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:15 am

Let's face it. They're all idiots in different ways and at different times.

Wojak · Post by **Wojak** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 5:09 am

Saiyan-Professor wrote:
JulieYBM wrote:I have to get get this off my chest: your attitude is gratuitous.

The Boo arc is obviously riddled with some weaker writing but to call Gokû and his sons 'idiots' is just silly and shows unhealthy signs of obsession. It's a cartoon, must you use such hateful phraseology?
Hey, I am being just as silly as all those Vegeta haters and Son Gohan lovers. When the next conversation comes around about Vegeta and they all begin to call Vegeta an “asshole”, “prick” etc. I would love for you repeat those exact same words.

I don't see much of them around here. So please tune it down a bit, ok?
You are not being much better than them when describing characters like that.
You are actually telling such people that it's ok to do so.

Innagadadavida · Post by **Innagadadavida** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 7:19 am

Right... On topic:

When do these guys update? Randomly or do they have a schedule?

Saiyan-Professor · Post by **Saiyan-Professor** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:03 pm

Wojak wrote:
Saiyan-Professor wrote:
JulieYBM wrote:I have to get get this off my chest: your attitude is gratuitous.

The Boo arc is obviously riddled with some weaker writing but to call Gokû and his sons 'idiots' is just silly and shows unhealthy signs of obsession. It's a cartoon, must you use such hateful phraseology?
Hey, I am being just as silly as all those Vegeta haters and Son Gohan lovers. When the next conversation comes around about Vegeta and they all begin to call Vegeta an “asshole”, “prick” etc. I would love for you repeat those exact same words.
I don't see much of them around here. So please tune it down a bit, ok?
You are not being much better than them when describing characters like that.
You are actually telling such people that it's ok to do so.

I understand what you are saying but all I ask is that you and others repeat those same words when the Vegeta is an “asshole” or Broli "sucks", he is a "retard" and “only 12-year olds like him” stuff goes flying around.

Innagadadavida wrote:Right... On topic:

When do these guys update? Randomly or do they have a schedule?

They put up two new pages a week, one on Wednesday and the other on Sunday.

$ · Post by $ » Fri Dec 12, 2008 5:41 pm

Am I the only one who thought that what Super Buu was saying in (I think it was) the second to last panel didn't make much sense?

SSJ2bardock · Post by **SSJ2bardock** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 6:29 pm

$ wrote:Am I the only one who thought that what Super Buu was saying in (I think it was) the second to last panel didn't make much sense?

The guys making the comic are French, so that happens a lot.

$ · Post by $ » Fri Dec 12, 2008 6:46 pm

Oh alright that's fair enough then.

Eison · Post by **Eison** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 3:23 pm

New Page!
http://www.dragonball-multiverse.com/en/page-71.html

Nail VS Recoome, coool... I hope Recoome will win but I guess Nail is stronger, Nails power level was 42.000 and Recoome had one of 40.000, of cource it can be that they improved in the mean time, how much time was it between now and then? But I hope Recoome will win!

SSJ2bardock · Post by **SSJ2bardock** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 6:16 pm

(face palm)

"Reacum"

Can someone fill these guys in ASAP?