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Post by Super Ghost Kamikaze » Sun Dec 14, 2008 6:12 pm

Rena Rune wrote: What happens when all the quirky shows we liked as kids will be utterly bastardised?
Actually, that would be the Funimation dub. The new movie, however good or bad it is...doesn't really touch the original material at all. It will be great if it's good, but at the VERY WORST, it's a waste of an hour and a half.

I mean, Dragon Ball is hardly a series in dire straits, here. The entire manga is out in english, with minor censorship quibbles and name oddities. The worst problem is the non-release of the first 13 episodes on DVD, with the second-worse being about 30-40 episodes being really expensive and hard to find on Region 1 DVDs.

As it stands, other series only get partially released before poor sales have the plug pulled. Hell, GaoGaiGar had poor enough sales to have it sit in purgatory for awhile before sub-only releases continued to end the series. There are other series that simply do not have a DVD release anywhere in the US, or partial support, or multiple dubs.

When it comes to Dragon Ball, the series is in pretty good shape, unless you hinge your happiness on what other people think of what you like. This isn't the Region 1 "Saga of Goku" dub-only, highly-censored release. That is bastardization of a classic. This is really nothing to fuss over if it is bad. It's just a bad piece of entertainment, and hell, those are churned out all the time.

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Post by Gozar » Mon Dec 15, 2008 2:35 am

Super Ghost Kamikaze wrote:As it stands, other series only get partially released before poor sales have the plug pulled.
or multiple dubs.
As a huge Lupin III fan, this rings very loudly to me.

But anyway, I do agree with you. In the end, good or bad this Movie will never be a part of the canon. I mean hell, I watched the Chinese LA Movie with a sense of humor. Of course Chatwin's Goku will make Chinese Goku seem amazing. But it REALLY isn't worth getting that upset over despite the fact that myself and others are. What I fear the most is Forums like here being flooded with people who maybe watched a few episodes of Z when they were 5 and now really only know this Movie.

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Post by jjgp1112 » Sat Dec 20, 2008 8:05 pm

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As you can see in the image above, Goku and Bulma are running into a house on a extremely small isolated island in the city. There was a reason this was briefly shown in the trailer. Look at what they've done to Kame House! There's no tropical essence whatsoever. Master Roshi is a hermit living in the city. As a life long Dragon Ball fan, it's absolutely sickening to see the location like this.

It's a darn shame too, I was really looking forward to seeing the location adapted respectfully in the flesh. I did not want this. I didn't know they would screw up Kame House this bad. I mean, what's next? Roshi training Goku in a city dojo? First they changed Kami's lookout into the Dragon Temple, yeah doesn't seem too bad, didn't really think they would be able to pull off the lookout, but then they do this to Kame House? I hate to think what Fox will do to Namek...

What are your thoughts on the new design and location of Kame House?
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Post by Chrono Trigger » Sat Dec 20, 2008 8:13 pm

There really is no proof that the house is really "Kame House".
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Post by jjgp1112 » Sat Dec 20, 2008 8:18 pm

Later in the trailer you see Roshi and Goku sparring inside an old house. The windows look similar to the windows in this screen shot.
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Post by Chrono Trigger » Sat Dec 20, 2008 8:23 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:Later in the trailer you see Roshi and Goku sparring inside an old house. The windows look similar to the windows in this screen shot.
No way dude. I refuse to believe that they even fucked up something as simple as putting a pink house on a tiny island with the words "Kame House" written on it. No way. >_<
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Post by B » Sat Dec 20, 2008 8:24 pm

They've changed too much of the story to keep a pink house around. Especially with all the brown I see in the trailer.

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Post by Acid_Reign » Sat Dec 20, 2008 9:07 pm

I’m beginning to think Hollywood WON’T do a movie unless it’s based in Los Angeles or Manhattan. There really is no defense for this. “More realistic”? Really? What the hell is realistic about a single house sitting isolated in the middle of the city? Not that I expected any better, but they at LEAST could have stuck Goku in a chopper to see “an elusive master way off the coast.” Whoever thought this whole modern-day bullshit was necessary in any fashion must have been either insane or on crack. OMG THIS STORY LACKS HYPER-INDUSTRIALIZATION WE HAVE TO REINTERPRET EVERYTHING!!! NO ROOM FOR THE COUNTRYSIDE OR EVEN AN ACTUAL PHYSICAL ISLAND NO NO NO!!! TURTLE WHAT? YEAH STICK HIM IN A SMALL APARTMENT BUILDING GET IT BECAUSE HE DOESN'T HAVE A PERMANENT RESIDENCE THERE??!!
Chrono Trigger wrote:No way dude. I refuse to believe that they even fucked up something as simple as putting a pink house on a tiny island with the words "Kame House" written on it. No way. >_<
That’s the thing though. They actually made it MORE complicated for themselves. I can’t even imagine all of extra, pointless CGI that must have gone into this scene just to make it mesh well with the city setting. Blargh.
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Post by bkev » Sat Dec 20, 2008 9:15 pm

Gozar wrote: What I fear the most is Forums like here being flooded with people who maybe watched a few episodes of Z when they were 5 and now really only know this Movie.
Quoted for truth. This is what worries me about the LAM, and what ruined Naruto for me. x[

Also, I'm going to bring up a QUICK point here. Just a quick one. Yall of course remember Ninja Turtles, right? Well, the first of the movies based on the comics was downright amazing. It is the definitive Ninja Turtles for me. I don't think there was a SINGLE major deviation from the comics... all the personalities were right. Ninja Turtles may be set in Manhattan, but it also involves soem rather unbelievable events. Anamorphic creatures, et cetera. If Hollywood got that right, why not Dragonball?
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Post by omegacwa » Sat Dec 20, 2008 10:00 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:[img]
What are your thoughts on the new design and location of Kame House?
I think it's a cool and interesting redesign. It's obvious the movie is talking a "darker" take on our beloved story, and I can handle that. I think it looks cool and it's an interesting reinterpretation.

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Post by Tsukento » Sat Dec 20, 2008 10:14 pm

omegacwa wrote:I think it's a cool and interesting redesign. It's obvious the movie is talking a "darker" take on our beloved story, and I can handle that. I think it looks cool and it's an interesting reinterpretation.
I don't think "darker" is the word for it. Attempting to be "hardcore" and "hip" is the proper way to describe it.

But then again, the Piccolo Daimao arc was dark on its own merit for Dragon Ball's standards. There's no real need to attempt pushing the line.
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Post by Super Sonic » Sat Dec 20, 2008 10:21 pm

bkev wrote:
Gozar wrote: What I fear the most is Forums like here being flooded with people who maybe watched a few episodes of Z when they were 5 and now really only know this Movie.
Quoted for truth. This is what worries me about the LAM, and what ruined Naruto for me. x[

Also, I'm going to bring up a QUICK point here. Just a quick one. Yall of course remember Ninja Turtles, right? Well, the first of the movies based on the comics was downright amazing. It is the definitive Ninja Turtles for me. I don't think there was a SINGLE major deviation from the comics... all the personalities were right. Ninja Turtles may be set in Manhattan, but it also involves soem rather unbelievable events. Anamorphic creatures, et cetera. If Hollywood got that right, why not Dragonball?
Disney's been doing changes from original sources for years. Look at Jungle Book. Many of the characters in there are quite different than they were in the Mowgli stories.

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Post by Pain » Sun Dec 21, 2008 12:08 am

Super Sonic wrote:
bkev wrote:
Gozar wrote: What I fear the most is Forums like here being flooded with people who maybe watched a few episodes of Z when they were 5 and now really only know this Movie.
Quoted for truth. This is what worries me about the LAM, and what ruined Naruto for me. x[

Also, I'm going to bring up a QUICK point here. Just a quick one. Yall of course remember Ninja Turtles, right? Well, the first of the movies based on the comics was downright amazing. It is the definitive Ninja Turtles for me. I don't think there was a SINGLE major deviation from the comics... all the personalities were right. Ninja Turtles may be set in Manhattan, but it also involves soem rather unbelievable events. Anamorphic creatures, et cetera. If Hollywood got that right, why not Dragonball?
Disney's been doing changes from original sources for years. Look at Jungle Book. Many of the characters in there are quite different than they were in the Mowgli stories.
Hercules is another HUGE example of that.
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Post by Raki » Sun Dec 21, 2008 12:16 am

Pain wrote:
Super Sonic wrote:Disney's been doing changes from original sources for years. Look at Jungle Book. Many of the characters in there are quite different than they were in the Mowgli stories.
Hercules is another HUGE example of that.
I actually noticed all the changes when I saw the Disney Hercules movie at around age eight.
The series doesn't start with the arrival of Raditz. Stop being lazy and watch Dragonball.

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Post by Pain » Sun Dec 21, 2008 12:20 am

Raki wrote:
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Super Sonic wrote:Disney's been doing changes from original sources for years. Look at Jungle Book. Many of the characters in there are quite different than they were in the Mowgli stories.
Hercules is another HUGE example of that.
I actually noticed all the changes when I saw the Disney Hercules movie at around age eight.
I saw the movie when I was about....maybe five or six, and I actually thought that it was an original story.
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Post by Super Sonic » Sun Dec 21, 2008 12:30 am

Pain wrote:
Super Sonic wrote:
bkev wrote: Quoted for truth. This is what worries me about the LAM, and what ruined Naruto for me. x[

Also, I'm going to bring up a QUICK point here. Just a quick one. Yall of course remember Ninja Turtles, right? Well, the first of the movies based on the comics was downright amazing. It is the definitive Ninja Turtles for me. I don't think there was a SINGLE major deviation from the comics... all the personalities were right. Ninja Turtles may be set in Manhattan, but it also involves soem rather unbelievable events. Anamorphic creatures, et cetera. If Hollywood got that right, why not Dragonball?
Disney's been doing changes from original sources for years. Look at Jungle Book. Many of the characters in there are quite different than they were in the Mowgli stories.
Hercules is another HUGE example of that.
Definately. I still love that movie though. James Woods as Hades stole the show.

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Post by Pain » Sun Dec 21, 2008 12:32 am

Super Sonic wrote:
Pain wrote:
Super Sonic wrote: Disney's been doing changes from original sources for years. Look at Jungle Book. Many of the characters in there are quite different than they were in the Mowgli stories.
Hercules is another HUGE example of that.
Definately. I still love that movie though. James Woods as Hades stole the show.
Did he use his voice in the Kingdom Hearts games? Or was it impersonated?
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Post by Super Sonic » Sun Dec 21, 2008 12:43 am

Pain wrote:
Super Sonic wrote:
Pain wrote: Hercules is another HUGE example of that.
Definately. I still love that movie though. James Woods as Hades stole the show.
Did he use his voice in the Kingdom Hearts games? Or was it impersonated?
It was him. Herc was voiced by someone different in those games thoguh. And Phil was voiced by the guy who voiced Detective Bullock, instead of DeVito.

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Super Sonic wrote:
Pain wrote:
Super Sonic wrote: Definately. I still love that movie though. James Woods as Hades stole the show.
Did he use his voice in the Kingdom Hearts games? Or was it impersonated?
And Phil was voiced by the guy who voiced Detective Bullock, instead of DeVito.
You mean Robert Costanzo? I never really thought about it before, but he does sound a lot like DeVito.

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Post by Anonymous Friend » Mon Dec 22, 2008 2:38 pm

Is there any new word on when we get a trailer in the theaters? Whatever it is I want to go see what kind of response it gets from the crowd. No disrespect to anyone here, but I can't take the reactions of fans of a series all to well. Especially, in a situation like this. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, good or bad, but fans are going to always be over critical of whatever it is that they're fans of. With this movie, as well as any adapted work, has to be accessible as well as keeping some of whatever it was to may it popular. And just wondering if average movie goers, or whatever the demographic is for what the trailer is being shown with, will think of it. Both those who know of the property and those who do not.
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