Opinions of Schemmel?

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 9:40 pm

I would make a response to Supaa Gohan's post, but I'm to tired...

JulieYBM · Post by **JulieYBM** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 9:50 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:I would make a response to Supaa Gohan's post, but I'm to tired...

I'll do it for you:

Dude, it's a cartoon. In this video series I remember him being very humble about it all.

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 9:52 pm

Those also really helped influence my opinion on Sean Schemmel. I watched a bunch of his convention panels in the summer and he seems like an awesome guy.

The one story that he told that really made me laugh was how he originally auditioned to be Captain Ginyu, but then Chris Sabat called and told him that he was going to be Goku and he was all, "Wait, WTF?!"

Tsukento · Post by **Tsukento** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 10:00 pm

He also didn't know Goku was the hero and was in every episode, which completely threw him off. Which only lead him to keep asking if Goku was out of the energy tank yet since he needed work.

El Diabeetus · Post by **El Diabeetus** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 10:01 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:Those also really helped influence my opinion on Sean Schemmel. I watched a bunch of his convention panels in the summer and he seems like an awesome guy.

The one story that he told that really made me laugh was how he originally auditioned to be Captain Ginyu, but then Chris Sabat called and told him that he was going to be Goku and he was all, "Wait, WTF?!"

Agreed, he really wanted to be Ginyu. Well he still got to in a way.

He's a pretty cool guy.

I love how his Barry Watson Impression sounds like Mr. Mackey from South Park, at least to me.

JulieYBM · Post by **JulieYBM** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 10:05 pm

This second video pretty much gives the most insight into his work and how he feels about his work.

Super Sonic · Post by **Super Sonic** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 10:10 pm

SSJ4 Furanki wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:Those also really helped influence my opinion on Sean Schemmel. I watched a bunch of his convention panels in the summer and he seems like an awesome guy.

The one story that he told that really made me laugh was how he originally auditioned to be Captain Ginyu, but then Chris Sabat called and told him that he was going to be Goku and he was all, "Wait, WTF?!"
Agreed, he really wanted to be Ginyu. Well he still got to in a way.

That happens. Was at Vic Mignona panel where he mentioned that he tried out for Orochimaru and did voice he tried, even though he didn't do it.

Personally I like the man. Yeah, he didn't sound so good at first but that's how things usually are. Look at the first Bugs Bunny cartoon and he sounds quite different than what he does in the Hunting Trilogy.

Suupaa Gohan 2 · Post by **Suupaa Gohan 2** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 10:17 pm

JulieYBM wrote:Dude, it's a cartoon.

There are so many things wrong with this statement that I barely know where to begin. However, without starting a debate that sends this thing off-topic (which I sincerely don't feel like engaging in as it is), I'll say two things.

1) if it were so easy to write off every DBZ complaint as this, I guarantee that this community would most likely not even exist, let alone be so enduring and popular as it's been among DBZ fans for the past few years.

2) this thread says the word 'opinion' right in the title, and, like the majority of threads on this forum as a whole, is for discussion of just that. My opinion may not be the same as yours. Deal with it. I'm not persecuting Schemmel fans or hunting them down with rusty chainsaws, am I? I merely expressed my 'Opinion of Schemmel' as the thread calls for. Take it for what you will, agree, disagree, whatever, but at least come up with a decent rebuttal if you don't intend to ignore my response altogether. 'Dude, it's a cartoon' is not only insulting, but it undermines the entire point of this thread, and the forum/community as a whole.

End. No debating this is necessary. I really, really hate it when threads get off-topic due to stupid quarrels from fans who don't share the same opinions and feel the need to call each other out for them. Let's just respect each other's different opinions and move on with our lives, please.

Personally I dislike Schemmel. I dislike his acting, I dislike his arrogant attitude, et. al. That's just me, and how I feel about it.

Kingdom Heartless · Post by **Kingdom Heartless** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 10:21 pm

Although I don't have anything to do with the dub anymore, he was a good Goku. And he seemed to be a nice enough guy aswell.

I think it was him who posed for a photo with blatantly obvious product placement for my sister.

theoriginalbilis · Post by **theoriginalbilis** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 10:57 pm

He's actually one of the few dub actors I defend when it comes to the DBZ dub (along with Sonny Strait), even though I'd rather watch the Japanese stuff any day.

His potential for the Goku character is definitely there, and I think he's done a perfectly fine job voicing him in the recent games. The Freeza arc was definitely his roughest point, with him being an amateur and the fact that there apparently weren't any decent script writers or ADR directors at FUNi in 1999.

I do like his work in the later movies (especially Movies 8, 12, & 13.) And the later Cell arc throughout the end of Boo he got to the point where his everyday Goku voice got a lot more natural. I think his best work anime-wise is still the 23rd Budokai arc of DB, and the Season 1 & 2 redub.

I think an earlier post said it best: he's a talented actor given terrible scripts. I still think Nozawa's performance can't be touched though.

Tamagon · Post by **Tamagon** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 10:59 pm

Suupaa Gohan 2 wrote:WALL OF TEXT

Do you care to post some interviews backing up your statements about him being arrogant?

bkev · Post by **bkev** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 11:07 pm

Tamagon wrote:
Suupaa Gohan 2 wrote:WALL OF TEXT
Do you care to post some interviews backing up your statements about him being arrogant?

Went over this... can't find 'em.

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 11:40 pm

Tamagon wrote:
Suupaa Gohan 2 wrote:WALL OF TEXT
Do you care to post some interviews backing up your statements about him being arrogant?

I remember reading a post waaaay back in the Season 3 thread showing a Schemmel interview, but all it was was just him talking about the early Season 3 Dub, how he did the transformation scene, why he wouldn't go back and redub it, etc.

Super Sonic · Post by **Super Sonic** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 11:49 pm

I understand why he didn't want to redo it. Kind of how some people don't like the redone stuff from Star Wars.

SonGokuGT · Post by **SonGokuGT** » Sun Dec 21, 2008 12:06 am

He was horrid at the beginning, but around Trunks' arrival he really took to the character! I feel he's gotten better and better as time went on, and that Burst Limit was his best performance as Goku yet! I can't wait to see more from him!

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Sun Dec 21, 2008 12:14 am

SonGokuGT wrote:He was horrid at the beginning, but around Trunks' arrival he really took to the character! I feel he's gotten better and better as time went on, and that Burst Limit was his best performance as Goku yet! I can't wait to see more from him!

Yeah, it was strange, though. In Season 3 he sucked, and he was still a little akward in episode 126. Then, all of a sudden, in episode 127, he was fucking awesome. It's inexplicable, really.

Vekurotto · Post by **Vekurotto** » Sun Dec 21, 2008 11:12 am

I'm gonna say mixed. Reason why, he HAS shown that he can be more like the Son Goku that Toriyama originally intended him to be written and portrayed as but at the same time he has also portrayed him as 1930's Superman and the fake superhero that Goku is not through a combination of Funi's scriptwriting, their voice direction, and through his own performances. The problem with me is that he seems to tap more into the latter than the former everytime I happen to peak at the Funi dub and that just annoys me into just switching back to the JP version and forgetting that I even tried to watch the dub.

Look, the best Goku Schemmel ever did was the one in the 23rd Budokai. Period. I will always say that if he had decided to voice Goku like that from the beginning and if Funi gave him the less incompetent direction and scriptwriting that they gave him back then, 90% of the problems I have with how the dub portrays Goku would be non-existent. However once the redubs for Seasons 1 and 2 came out in the UUE I was so excited to hear him with the 23rd Budokai Goku voice only to my horror hear him sound like 1930's Superman, again, further making me believe that Funi just plain doesn't know the character at all or are just slapping people around for shits and giggles.

And, I still don't know how anybody in the right frame of mind would want to defend his Season 3-5 performances. I find them to be just plain hard to even listen to just cause, as Schemmel has stated, he wasn't an actor but just a guy that did voices and that shows greatly. Yes he did improve in the video games but I honestly don't think that matters just because the video games are external media. Just because he gave a performance that was amazing there doesn't change the fact that his performance sucked so much for most the the media that actually matters.

So pretty much whatever I can say about him is that he just plain either knows Goku but doesn't want to portray him completely the right way or that he just plain doesn't know Goku and continues to believe that he's all the elements that he's not to this day.

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Sun Dec 21, 2008 11:16 am

But back when Schemmel voiced Goku in the Tenkaichi Budokai, he was younger than DBZ Goku. And in my opinion, his voice in Seasons 1 & 2 sounded pretty similar to that anyway. Higher pitched, more light-hearted, etc.

And I honestly don't see much of a difference between 23rd Tournament Goku and Season 1/2 Goku.

B · Post by B » Sun Dec 21, 2008 11:26 am

Aren't the remastered sets of the first two seasons re-dubbed? They were released after the series finished, when Schemmel started really giving solid performances of Goku. So wouldn't the dub quality there be pretty good, compared to later seasons they didn't bother to redub because they did it once already?

JulieYBM · Post by **JulieYBM** » Sun Dec 21, 2008 11:27 am

Suupaa Gohan 2 wrote:
JulieYBM wrote:Dude, it's a cartoon.
There are so many things wrong with this statement that I barely know where to begin. However, without starting a debate that sends this thing off-topic (which I sincerely don't feel like engaging in as it is), I'll say two things.

1) if it were so easy to write off every DBZ complaint as this, I guarantee that this community would most likely not even exist, let alone be so enduring and popular as it's been among DBZ fans for the past few years.

2) this thread says the word 'opinion' right in the title, and, like the majority of threads on this forum as a whole, is for discussion of just that. My opinion may not be the same as yours. Deal with it. I'm not persecuting Schemmel fans or hunting them down with rusty chainsaws, am I? I merely expressed my 'Opinion of Schemmel' as the thread calls for. Take it for what you will, agree, disagree, whatever, but at least come up with a decent rebuttal if you don't intend to ignore my response altogether. 'Dude, it's a cartoon' is not only insulting, but it undermines the entire point of this thread, and the forum/community as a whole.

End. No debating this is necessary. I really, really hate it when threads get off-topic due to stupid quarrels from fans who don't share the same opinions and feel the need to call each other out for them. Let's just respect each other's different opinions and move on with our lives, please.

Personally I dislike Schemmel. I dislike his acting, I dislike his arrogant attitude, et. al. That's just me, and how I feel about it.

You might as well have called him the Anti-Christ. Calling him 'evil' is pretty silly. That's why I said 'dude, it's a cartoon' because it's absurd to hate somebody over children's entertainment--however good it is. I've posted two video links now of a very greatful and humble Schemmel who even expresses his guilt in taking more credit than he feels he should
("there's all of this animation that takes hours and hours to do, they should be getting attention for that" or something to such a nature). That is who Sean Schemmel is. Either the interviews you read are fake, he was joking and you failed to pick that up, or he's become wiser with age. You don't need to like his work, but don't persecute him for things he has not said or done.