Dragon Ball: Evolution- Speculation and Discussion

JAPPO · Post by **JAPPO** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:35 pm

SSj Kaboom wrote:Though I'll probably check it out too, I don't have much confidence in the Junior Novel to provide any sort of in-depth look into anyone's character development. I wish there was a more adult, actual "novelization" of the film coming out.

Yeah, wtf. Judging the depth of "The Joker" in TDK based on a Junior Novel is just as ridiculous.

It is retarded the Junor Novel is coming out in February, because some people don't know the difference between it and an actual well-written book.

Chuquita · Post by **Chuquita** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:01 pm

Does it really have to come down to calling stuff retarded?

All movies of this type release their promotional material ahead of time; its the same reason the Valentine's Day cards were put out on display at my bookstore right after Christmas.
It may seem far too early to release something, but from a money-making point of view its all in the scheme of getting people hyped up.

I'm not defending the junior novel; and surely it's most likely no where above a 4th or 5th grade reading level as there's nothing on these two authors' resumes aside from a junior novel of The Dark Knight that even hints at them having experience in this area; but it's all we really have to go on until mid-March.

There's nothing to be found in chapter books though; I've flipped through one for Spiderman--it's all bare bones.

By the way, I'm a Professional Writing major. I do know the difference between a children's adaptation of a movie script and a genuine novel, thanks.

jda95 · Post by **jda95** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:04 pm

Chuquita wrote:its the same reason the Valentine's Day cards were put out on display at my bookstore right after Christmas.

We have Easter stuff in stores.

Chuquita · Post by **Chuquita** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:12 pm

jda95 wrote:
Chuquita wrote:its the same reason the Valentine's Day cards were put out on display at my bookstore right after Christmas.
We have Easter stuff in stores.

You win.
We won't have Easter stuff where I am till after St. Patrick's Day.

JAPPO · Post by **JAPPO** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:14 pm

I wasn't directing that at you Chuquita.... I know some people are like that, I know you aren't.

Chuquita · Post by **Chuquita** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:17 pm

JAPPO wrote:I wasn't directing that at you Chuquita.... I know some people are like that, I know you aren't.

Ah, ok. ^^;

Understood. :3

omegacwa · Post by **omegacwa** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:41 pm

Pitzu wrote:
omegacwa wrote:I understand it's supposed to be, but in the Bardock special and in other flashbacks aren't there Saiya-Jins with brown hair?

Also King Vegeta
http://www.absoluteanime.com/dragon_bal ... vegeta.jpg

Also, if a Saiya-jins hair remains the same from birth, then how did Vegeta grow a mustache in GT. shouldn't he have just had it eventually, I mean we never see Vegeta shave until GT, and he spent a year in a space pod and nothing happened. I guess to grow his mustache it took the time from after Z till GT to grow?
You know.

Think of King Vegeta.

Its not like he was born with a goatee.

Facial Hair grows, Head Hair doesn't

I understand people grow facial hair, lol.

I was just saying that when a Saiyan matures I would assume he would grow facial hair, if genetically dispositioned to do so, and that would be it. Vegeta nor Goku are ever shown shaving. I just don't imagine Vegeta taking the time to shave while training.

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:44 pm

I always figured that "changes" in a Saiyan's hair, top-o-the-head, facial, whatever... didn't happen until the Saiyan was getting over the hill. The abnormal cases we've seen... King Vegeta's goatee, Nappa's baldness and mustache, GT Vegeta's hairstyle change and mustache, etc... in all cases the Saiyan in question was really getting up there in years.

Bussani · Post by **Bussani** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:47 pm

omegacwa wrote:I was just saying that when a Saiyan matures I would assume he would grow facial hair, if genetically dispositioned to do so, and that would be it. Vegeta nor Goku are ever shown shaving. I just don't imagine Vegeta taking the time to shave while training.

Not to be picky, but I can't think of many anime or cartoons where a male character is shown to shave.

JAPPO · Post by **JAPPO** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:51 pm

The review from IMDB is definitely fake (he even said it was) so yeah I know this thread will never be closed (for whatever reason) but it seriously should. Ah well.

omegacwa · Post by **omegacwa** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:53 pm

Bussani wrote:
omegacwa wrote:I was just saying that when a Saiyan matures I would assume he would grow facial hair, if genetically dispositioned to do so, and that would be it. Vegeta nor Goku are ever shown shaving. I just don't imagine Vegeta taking the time to shave while training.
Not to be picky, but I can't think of many anime or cartoons where a male character is shown to shave.

Homer Simpson, zing.

Anyway, I just thought that for some reason, doesn't mean it's true.

Did anyone notice Vegeta's hairstyle actually changes in GT. At the beginning of GT is spreads more like a fan and looks like a crop top, but then after he shaves his mustache, thank god, his hair just looks like a toned down version of his Z hair?

Bussani · Post by **Bussani** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:16 pm

omegacwa wrote:Homer Simpson, zing.

Like I said, I couldn't think of many. Even less in anime than cartoons actually.

But that aside, Homer must have some Saiyajin DNA. His stubble grows back instantly.

SSJ2bardock · Post by **SSJ2bardock** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:44 pm

Bussani wrote: But that aside, Homer must have some Saiyajin DNA. His stubble grows back instantly.

Of course it does, have you seen him without it? He just looks..... strange

omegacwa · Post by **omegacwa** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:46 pm

I just read somewhere that Vegeta's mustache was someone at Toei's idea, and when Akria Toriyama saw it in the show he was like "NO!"
Whether this is fact or fiction I have no idea.

Bussani · Post by **Bussani** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:50 pm

omegacwa wrote:I just read somewhere that Vegeta's mustache was someone at Toei's idea, and when Akria Toriyama saw it in the show he was like "NO!"
Whether this is fact or fiction I have no idea.

I'm honestly not sure if Mr Toriyama would ever be that bothered. He seems like a pretty easy going guy and didn't really care what they did with GT so long as he didn't have to draw it.

Suupaa Gohan 2 · Post by **Suupaa Gohan 2** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:51 pm

Nope. Herms posted a pic recently in another thread (I think it was the Goten one) of Toriyama-Sensei's concept designs for GT characters...unfortunately, 'stachio'd Vegeta and lawnmower-head Goten were among them.

I think he secretly sabotaged GT with those horrible designs to make fans dislike it from the get-go, putting a stop to his mad creation once and for all.

Sprite Satan · Post by **Sprite Satan** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:54 pm

Then he kind of half failed. Interest in DB as a whole was already waning, it didn't need an inside man to bring it down. Besides, GT still has a noticeable fan base, despite its overall perception as the syphilitic leper of the Dragon Ball franchise.

Dragon Ball was never going to go on as a series forever, secret moustache of doom or no.

omegacwa · Post by **omegacwa** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:55 pm

Dammit. That mustache and square hair combo is awful. Thank god someone decided to ditch it. As I said, after the mustache went, Vegeta's hair returned some what to normal also.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 11:38 pm

omegacwa wrote:Did anyone notice Vegeta's hairstyle actually changes in GT. At the beginning of GT is spreads more like a fan and looks like a crop top, but then after he shaves his mustache, thank god, his hair just looks like a toned down version of his Z hair?

Because his spikes are growing back. There's several months between the beginning of GT and Vegeta's later appearances.

Pitzu · Post by **Pitzu** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 11:05 am

Bussani wrote:
Pitzu wrote:Vegeta has always had Brown Hair, it was just so dark it looked black, in good lighting you could see the brown shine on it.

Brown Shines don't happen to Black Hair.
In the anime, yes.

In the manga his hair was always black, so when Toriyama added the line about all Saiyajin having black hair, it was true from his perspective. All the inconsistencies are Toei's fault, really. If anything they should have changed the line to 'dark hair' -- it still would have worked in the context the comment was used in.

You cant really judge someones hair color based off what you see in a black and white manga, especcially since if its a dark color, it always becomes black(ish)