Episode #0160 (18 January 2009)

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Episode #0160 (18 January 2009)

Post by VegettoEX » Sun Jan 18, 2009 4:33 pm

Episode #0160 (download MP3) (rss feed)
56:28; 64 kbps, mono; 25.8 MB

Episode #0160! VegettoEX and Meri bring of godofchaos (The Fanboy Review) to talk about FUNimation and their upcoming plans for the DragonBall series on Blu-ray. What have they already done that we can compare these plans to, and what other reference material is out there? Catching up on a couple quick news bits and some great e-mails round out the episode. Referenced sites:
Go ahead and grab it. Big thanks to godofchaos for hosting the rather sweet *one-hundred-sixty* episodes, now.

I'm sure godofchaos will pop in with his links to the referenced images and such. They go along pretty nicely with the episode, so if you happen to have available time to look at them while listening, it might be nice to do so.

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Post by JAPPO » Sun Jan 18, 2009 4:55 pm

Yay 1080p?
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Post by jda95 » Sun Jan 18, 2009 5:06 pm

The generic trailer line is 'The battle for our world is about to begin'.

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Post by tinlunlau » Mon Jan 19, 2009 2:34 am

Dragon Tiger Gate? That's gotta be one of the worst Donnie Yen/Wilson Yip movies that has come out so far!

You should show a clip from "Flashpoint" (bluray). There's a specific scene where it's just so...green...
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Post by Herms » Mon Jan 19, 2009 2:40 am

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Post by tinlunlau » Mon Jan 19, 2009 4:25 am

I'm listening to this week's podcast right now and I just feel the need to correct in the matter of "Dragon Tiger Gate". Tai Seng isn't involved with the audio/video portion of the bluray production for this movie. Tai-Seng is only involved in supplying English subtitles for the special features and a revamped English subtitles for the film itself. Deltamac is the production company who are responsible for bringing a high definition film transfer of "Dragon Tiger Gate".

By the way, it's not a low budget production.
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Post by shotkeeper » Mon Jan 19, 2009 1:05 pm

Wow, I have a few questions. First of all thanks for the caps, but where do they come from? The blu ray disc that came with Burst limit for the xbox? Because I'm sure there is no Funimation blu ray release( Am I ?).

And I don't think these will differ much from the Remastered box sets. Even though I do hope it, that way we would have things to discuss about.

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Is it me or the DBZ cap looks poor compared to the movie cap?

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Post by MarcFBR » Mon Jan 19, 2009 5:53 pm

tinlunlau wrote:I'm listening to this week's podcast right now and I just feel the need to correct in the matter of "Dragon Tiger Gate". Tai Seng isn't involved with the audio/video portion of the bluray production for this movie. Tai-Seng is only involved in supplying English subtitles for the special features and a revamped English subtitles for the film itself. Deltamac is the production company who are responsible for bringing a high definition film transfer of "Dragon Tiger Gate".

By the way, it's not a low budget production.
I said it's Tai Seng's disk, which it is, and my understanding from people I know who have both disks is the video was slightly changed. Deltamac also advertised their disk as having a PCM track, which the Tai Seng disk doesn't, so there does seem to be various little changes, not to mention changes such as a commentary with Tai Seng staff in it. Regardless, it's a Tai Seng disk, with their name on it, so they get the credit for the transfer, since, as we've seen with DBZ, being 'given' a transfer doesn't mean much since it can easily be changed.

I also bring up the Tai Seng disk of Initial D, which as far as I'm aware (could be wrong) was actually a coproduction with another distributor.

And when I said low budget production I meant compared to their American equivalent (since this is the HK equivalent of an action movie based on a comic book).

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Post by tinlunlau » Mon Jan 19, 2009 8:47 pm

There was mention in a Chinese website that talks about where Deltamac gets their blu-ray releases done thru the high definition transfers. If my assumption is correct, Deltamac does the whole HD mastering for blu-ray at the same location for most (if not, all) of their BD releases. I normally buy Chinese DVD's (which I have recently abandoned) and bluray's. Tai Seng typically takes the Hong Kong discs and slaps their sticker on the product itself.

Now for Initial D, Tai Seng had reached an agreement with Megastar (owned by HK film studio, Media Asia) to co-produce high definition bluray discs. Provided that Megastar allows Tai Seng to use their film and audio transfers and Megastar would be permitted to use their revamped English subtitles (and English dubbed audio tracks) in exchange. However, this doesn't include some of the Media Asia produced movies which Tai Seng doesn't own for North American distribution rights like "The Warlords" starring Jet Li, Takeshi Kaneshiro and Andy Lau.

With that being said and done, I'd also like to add John Woo's "Red Cliff" as another reference material example. This movie looks amazing in HD. I can't say that I know everything there is about how the Hong Kong home video industry works. But if you want some credentials, I've done work for Joy Sales.

Just a random plug before I go, "Connected" is coming out this week to blu-ray. It's a Hong Kong remake of a Hollywood movie called "Cellular" (which starred Jason Statham) and it'll be Joy Sales' first official blu-ray title. Funny thing is, when I spoke to my boss at Joy Sales about tapping into the HD market, he just simply refused to let the company give high definition a try. He said a lot of things to me about it. But one year after I spoke with him and he has now caved in to have his company give bluray a try. I'm still trying to coerce him into releasing Jackie Chan's recent Hong Kong movies (namely "The Myth" and "Rob-B-Hood") for blu-ray. I've actually worked on the subtitles for the special features on tho dvd releases of those two movies. Have always been looking for a time to justify my old translations since I was never satisfied with the subtitles shown on the DVD. (Rushed schedule never allowed me the time to perfect it for the first time around)
godofchaos wrote: I said it's Tai Seng's disk, which it is, and my understanding from people I know who have both disks is the video was slightly changed. Deltamac also advertised their disk as having a PCM track, which the Tai Seng disk doesn't, so there does seem to be various little changes, not to mention changes such as a commentary with Tai Seng staff in it. Regardless, it's a Tai Seng disk, with their name on it, so they get the credit for the transfer, since, as we've seen with DBZ, being 'given' a transfer doesn't mean much since it can easily be changed.

I also bring up the Tai Seng disk of Initial D, which as far as I'm aware (could be wrong) was actually a coproduction with another distributor.

And when I said low budget production I meant compared to their American equivalent (since this is the HK equivalent of an action movie based on a comic book).
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Post by shotkeeper » Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:44 am

I really really really don't want to do this (Sorry!), but can someone please answer my question.
shotkeeper wrote:Wow, I have a few questions. First of all thanks for the caps, but where do they come from? The blu ray disc that came with Burst limit for the xbox? Because I'm sure there is no Funimation blu ray release( Am I ?).

And I don't think these will differ much from the Remastered box sets. Even though I do hope it, that way we would have things to discuss about.

EDIT:

Is it me or the DBZ cap looks poor compared to the movie cap?

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Post by VegettoEX » Tue Jan 20, 2009 1:26 pm

shotkeeper wrote:I really really really don't want to do this (Sorry!), but can someone please answer my question.
shotkeeper wrote:Wow, I have a few questions. First of all thanks for the caps, but where do they come from? The blu ray disc that came with Burst limit for the xbox? Because I'm sure there is no Funimation blu ray release( Am I ?).

And I don't think these will differ much from the Remastered box sets. Even though I do hope it, that way we would have things to discuss about.

EDIT:

Is it me or the DBZ cap looks poor compared to the movie cap?
Everything that you asked was clearly answered in the podcast.

The TV series shot comes from a promotional video for the (then-upcoming) "remastered" DVD box sets, which appeared on the Broli double-feature Blu-ray from 2007. We are unsure of the video's actual/original window size (was it native HD, or was it upscaled from 480?), but it was encoded on the Blu-ray disc as 1080.

Therefore, of course that shot looks "poor" compared to the movie screen-cap, which was from an actual 1080 video stream on an actual FUNimation Blu-ray release which we know and have confirmed comes from a new transfer FUNimation did specifically for that exact release, even just on a technical level and ignoring that the movies inherently look better than the TV series.

The pre-order bonus for the Xbox 360 version of Burst Limit was a standard DVD (the first disc from the first "remastered" season box set). The PS3 pre-order bonus was a dub-only Blu-ray of DBZ movie 1.
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Post by SatoSky » Fri Jan 23, 2009 12:28 am

So I finally got some time to actually listen to this episode and yay my question was answered! :shock:

So, the AMV's that I was asking about are mostly from 2002 & 2003. Vids like:
Alone in the World
Redemption &
Pretentious DBZ Action Video - Would look sexy as hell with Dragon Box footage!

And yes, Doomrider would probably look so much sexier with a new encode.

Anyway, thanks for answering my question. :)

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