Does Goku sound exactly the same as both an adult...

Taku128 · Post by **Taku128** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 5:31 pm

Tsukento wrote:I'm kinda tempted to actually pull out Masako Nozawa's different voice ranges for all of the characters she voiced in DB/Z/GT.

Her Tullece is most definitely noticeable for sounding cold and ruthless.

Please do it. It would be nice to have something to point to for comparison's sake, instead of linking to several youtube videos and saying "Alright, click this one and go to 3:27, click this one and go to 8:29, click this one and go to 5:18...".

Tsukento · Post by **Tsukento** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 6:26 pm

Gotcha. I'll get to work on it right away. If there's any particular moments you guys want me to use as comparisons, feel free to lemme know.

Post by **VegettoEX** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 6:30 pm

Tsukento wrote:Gotcha. I'll get to work on it right away. If there's any particular moments you guys want me to use as comparisons, feel free to lemme know.

I've said it before, I'll say it again... her whole, "Oi, oi..." bit as Tullece in movie 3 is it.

Jerseymilk · Post by **Jerseymilk** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 6:30 pm

PrincessVegeta wrote:
Saiyan-Professor wrote:I take it that the Japanese lady did Kakarrot's voice straight through the series.
And that is what turns fanboys and fangirls away from the Japanese version since Goku sounds the same nearly all the time.

Us fans prefer the English voice for Goku because he atleast sounds different in both his child and adult voices, whilst the Japanese didn't bother to use someone else for his adult roles and gave him that same generic voice that makes him sound like a high pitched cat x3

I have to say that those are really close-minded statements. They continued to use Nozawa *because* that's the voice that Japanese fans watched from the start and were used to. Don't forget they watched the show from the very beginnings of Goku being a child and saw him grow up. Most of the Western world saw it out of order.

Just because the media in this country doesn't tend to do that with series, doesn't mean that it isn't the norm in Japan. You need to think outside of your culture/society a little more. You'll find you learn a lot about the rest of the world that way and it will expand your horizons/views on things.

Tsukento · Post by **Tsukento** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 6:34 pm

VegettoEX wrote:I've said it before, I'll say it again... her whole, "Oi, oi..." bit as Tullece in movie 3 is it.

You got it.

Jerseymilk wrote:I have to say that those are really close-minded statements. They continued to use Nozawa *because* that's the voice that Japanese fans watched from the start and were used to. Don't forget they watched the show from the very beginnings of Goku being a child and saw him grow up. Most of the Western world saw it out of order.

Just because the media in this country doesn't tend to do that with series, doesn't mean that it isn't the norm in Japan. You need to think outside of your culture/society a little more. You'll find you learn a lot about the rest of the world that way and it will expand your horizons/views on things.

Let's not forget that the US dub has had so many different voices for Goku as both a kid and an adult.

Jerseymilk · Post by **Jerseymilk** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 6:37 pm

Tsukento wrote: Let's not forget that the US dub has had so many different voices for Goku as both a kid and an adult.

*groans* Don't even get me started on Kirby Morrow..... ><

JulieYBM · Post by **JulieYBM** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 6:59 pm

Makes you wonder what those who hate Japanese DB but love Japanese Naruto will think when Naruto's voice actor doesn't change...and he's a full grown man.

Post by **Herms** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 7:37 pm

Jerseymilk wrote:Just because the media in this country doesn't tend to do that with series, doesn't mean that it isn't the norm in Japan.

It's not even unprecedented in America. The same actress who does Bart Simpson's voice also does his voice whenever he's shown as an adult in the future.

The Tori-bot · Post by **The Tori-bot** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 7:41 pm

Jerseymilk wrote:
Tsukento wrote: Let's not forget that the US dub has had so many different voices for Goku as both a kid and an adult.
*groans* Don't even get me started on Kirby Morrow..... ><

Hey, he wasn't bad!

Then again, it's him I'm used to...

Tsukento · Post by **Tsukento** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 7:42 pm

JulieYBM wrote:Makes you wonder what those who hate Japanese DB but love Japanese Naruto will think when Naruto's voice actor doesn't change...and he's a full grown man.

I always found that to be rather odd, where some people would hate dubs that change things so drastically...yet don't mind the dub for DBZ. o_O;

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 7:46 pm

Tsukento wrote:
JulieYBM wrote:Makes you wonder what those who hate Japanese DB but love Japanese Naruto will think when Naruto's voice actor doesn't change...and he's a full grown man.
I always found that to be rather odd, where some people would hate dubs that change things so drastically...yet don't mind the dub for DBZ. o_O;

I agree but I think that's a case of seeing DBZ as more of an American cartoon and to hell with the Japanese version whatever it may consist of. (Kind of like how I view the Pokemon anime.)

Saiyan-Professor · Post by **Saiyan-Professor** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 7:56 pm

JulieYBM wrote:Makes you wonder what those who hate Japanese DB but love Japanese Naruto will think when Naruto's voice actor doesn't change...and he's a full grown man.

Huh? Naruto Shippuden been out for quite a while now and there is a big difference in how he sounds. In Naruto he sounds like a little boy and now he sounds like a teenager. If someone had not mentioned it to me, I would have not known that a chick was the VA. The problem with Kakarrot’s voice is that he sounds like a whiny girl through the entire thing. It is as if she did not even try to sound masculine.

Tsukento · Post by **Tsukento** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 7:59 pm

Saiyan-Professor wrote:The problem with Kakarrot’s voice is that he sounds like a whiny girl through the entire thing. It is as if she did not even try to sound masculine.

Because Goku's a walking, talking pile of masculinity who must pump iron and eat little girly men for breakfast.

Once again, over exaggeration, go go!

jda95 · Post by **jda95** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:02 pm

Saiyan-Professor wrote:It is as if she did not even try to sound masculine.

She didn't try and make him sound masculine. She tried to make him sound like a kid, and when he is an adult, he is still a big kid. Action heroes don't need to sound like Samuel L. Jackson.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:02 pm

Tsukento wrote:Because Goku's a walking, talking pile of masculinity

He can crush cinderblocks between his titanic pectorals, so...yes?

jda95 wrote:Action heroes don't need to sound like Samuel L. Jackson.

*pictures Samuel L. Jackson voicing Goku*

<3

Bulma's Foot Masseur · Post by **Bulma's Foot Masseur** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:04 pm

Saiyan-Professor wrote:
JulieYBM wrote:Makes you wonder what those who hate Japanese DB but love Japanese Naruto will think when Naruto's voice actor doesn't change...and he's a full grown man.
It is as if she did not even try to sound masculine.

Who said Goku was ever supposed to sound masculine?

Like their appetite, the standard for voice-pitch is obviously going to be different from humans.

jda95 · Post by **jda95** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:05 pm

Rocketman wrote:
jda95 wrote:Action heroes don't need to sound like Samuel L. Jackson.
*pictures Samuel L. Jackson voicing Goku*

<3

I really don't know where I got that analogy.....

Is analogy even the right word?

The Tori-bot · Post by **The Tori-bot** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:10 pm

Saiyan-Professor wrote:
JulieYBM wrote:Makes you wonder what those who hate Japanese DB but love Japanese Naruto will think when Naruto's voice actor doesn't change...and he's a full grown man.
The problem with Kakarrot’s voice is that he sounds like a whiny girl through the entire thing.

"Whiny"? Yes, if he's voiced by a woman then he's going to sound like a bloody woman, but when I hear "whiny" I think Gohan in the Saiyan arc; her Goku doesn't even remotely resemble "whiny".

Saiyan-Professor wrote:It is as if she did not even try to sound masculine.

She didn't have to...

Saiyan-Professor · Post by **Saiyan-Professor** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:15 pm

Some can call it closed-minded but where I come from men sound like men and women sound like women. The cartoons, television shows and movies I grew up on the heroes sounded like males. I can picture John Wayne walking into a saloon full of cutthroats and telling them to “clear out” yet his voice was that of Joanne Dru. I can just imagine watching Thundercats and Lion-O is leading them in battle with Cheetara or Pumyra’s voice. I am sorry but that would not work.

Post by **Herms** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:16 pm

Saiyan-Professor wrote:Some can call it closed-minded but where I come from men sound like men and women sound like women.

And all the children are above average.