Dragon Ball Z: Season 8 Discussion

Vekurotto · Post by **Vekurotto** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 7:51 pm

NeptuneKai wrote:
Vekurotto wrote:
NeptuneKai wrote:Exactly, just look at the SSJ2 transformation scene in Japanese. Like the song or not it was a big deal to have an insert song along with that footage.
I could just imagine how cool it would be to have a confident yet enraged sounding insert song for Goku's SSJ transformation.
Umm but what the hell could they play? Something like Spirit vs Spirit wouldn't work during the SSJ3 transformation.
They could have developed an original song for that scene like they did with Spirit Vs. Spirit. Instead they went with some stock music we've heard 100 times before.

Well like I said people will have differing opinions. I honestly didn't give a damn. Toei's choice of music or not, that scene was actually tolerable to me this time unlike when I could never watch it without wanting to chuck a Wii mote into my computer screen.

Krycek7o2 · Post by **Krycek7o2** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 7:51 pm

SSj Kaboom wrote:
Krycek7o2 wrote:I just picked it up at Walmart. If any one wants screens let me know what episode you guys want.
Well, I think we've just gotten a request for Majin Vegeta's creepy grin after he blew up the stands. That's all I can remember...

As for me, is Goku's first SSj3 transformation on this set? I'd like to see some caps from that.

Alright, I'll snap the shots of SSJ3 and Majin Vegeta. I'll post them in a few minutes.

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 7:52 pm

Vekurotto wrote:
NeptuneKai wrote:
Vekurotto wrote: Umm but what the hell could they play? Something like Spirit vs Spirit wouldn't work during the SSJ3 transformation.
They could have developed an original song for that scene like they did with Spirit Vs. Spirit. Instead they went with some stock music we've heard 100 times before.
Well like I said people will have differing opinions. I honestly didn't give a damn. Toei's choice of music or not, that scene was actually tolerable to me this time unlike when I could never watch it without wanting to chuck a Wii mote into my computer screen.

Don't get me wrong what they have now is much much much better then the dub music IMO. I'm just saying so much more could have been done with it.

Chrono Trigger · Post by **Chrono Trigger** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 7:54 pm

NeptuneKai wrote:They could have developed an original song for that scene like they did with Spirit Vs. Spirit. Instead they went with some stock music we've heard 100 times before.

Hell even if they were going to use stock music they had much more fitting songs to choose from. That's how I see it at least.

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 7:56 pm

Chrono Trigger wrote:
NeptuneKai wrote:They could have developed an original song for that scene like they did with Spirit Vs. Spirit. Instead they went with some stock music we've heard 100 times before.
Hell even if they were going to use stock music they had much more fitting songs to choose from. That's how I see it at least.

True enough, although I really do think scenes like these are worthy of a new song and not something we've heard so many times before.

Krycek7o2 · Post by **Krycek7o2** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:57 pm

Here it is.

Vekurotto · Post by **Vekurotto** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 9:07 pm

Is it me or does this set just look like the singles in 'wide' screen

bkev · Post by **bkev** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 9:08 pm

Vekurotto wrote:Is it me or does this set just look like the singles in 'wide' screen

Not just you, I thought the same thing when I watched the youtube clip. Though a little oversaturated, I must say this set is looking good.

Vekurotto · Post by **Vekurotto** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 9:10 pm

bkev wrote:
Vekurotto wrote:Is it me or does this set just look like the singles in 'wide' screen
Not just you, I thought the same thing when I watched the youtube clip. Though a little oversaturated, I must say this set is looking good.

Hell if that's the case I might just might buy this cause I've got the ultimate soft spot for the Buu saga.

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 9:11 pm

Wow, those look pretty good.

Krycek7o2 · Post by **Krycek7o2** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 9:11 pm

Just let me know if you guys want any more pics.

At first, I thought they quit with the "remastering" but DVNR is still apparent in some scenes. I only watch this and the SSJ3 episodes, so far.

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 9:31 pm

Comparisons from Babidi - Rivals:

Vekurotto · Post by **Vekurotto** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 9:38 pm

^ The season sets look like the better buy.

I'm wondering...is there a way to show how much footage from Funi's singles get cropped out due to overscan? I'm just wondering since the season sets have no overscan right? I'm really on the fence about buying this cause it's the Buu saga even though I still hate the widescreen.

Tweaker · Post by **Tweaker** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 9:52 pm

The choice to not apply to usual excessive blur to the original footage is interesting--is it possible that FUNimation is finally listening to our concerns? I think most people here generally prefer the grain from the original footage as an intentional aesthetic property of the original footage, and the film in this particular release seems to be completely intact. I don't think they'd make a decision like that unprompted.

In any case, while I'm not a huge fan of the grain, the fully intact footage is making this look much, much better than previous releases. Cool beans.

Vekurotto · Post by **Vekurotto** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:00 pm

Tweaker wrote:The choice to not apply to usual excessive blur to the original footage is interesting--is it possible that FUNimation is finally listening to our concerns? I think most people here generally prefer the grain from the original footage as an intentional aesthetic property of the original footage, and the film in this particular release seems to be completely intact. I don't think they'd make a decision like that unprompted.

As long as the grain doesn't make the footage look like A) like walking through a desert or B) like the picture is frozen like in the Freeza singles, then I'm fine. Grain was a part of the show to begin with like you said.

Krycek7o2 · Post by **Krycek7o2** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:09 pm

Vekurotto wrote:
Tweaker wrote: As long as the grain doesn't make the footage look like A) like walking through a desert or B) like the picture is frozen like in the Freeza singles, then I'm fine. Grain was a part of the show to begin with like you said.

I don't think you have a good comprehension of what film grain is. You are confusing grain with film damage with option A. Or over saturation with B.

Vekurotto · Post by **Vekurotto** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:15 pm

Krycek7o2 wrote:I don't think you have a good comprehension of what film grain is. You are confusing grain with film damage with option A. Or over saturation with B.

That sand-like layer over the film right?

Krycek7o2 · Post by **Krycek7o2** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:30 pm

Vekurotto wrote:
Krycek7o2 wrote:I don't think you have a good comprehension of what film grain is. You are confusing grain with film damage with option A. Or over saturation with B.
That sand-like layer over the film right?

You Mean Silver Halide, right?

Anyway, mainly only older movies get what you call "sand-like layer" is not really film grain, that is damage that get attached from the deterioration of the original film master.

That is unless we are talking about movies from 40 and below, then that's old fashion "hardcore" film grain. Got to love Griffith's Intolerance, that looked like you were walking through the desert.

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:44 pm

I think you're the one who's misunderstanding Vekurotto. The Grain is the sand-looking stuff. Film damage are the spots and scratches that come up occasionally. Grain is the sand-looking stuff.

Vekurotto · Post by **Vekurotto** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 11:14 pm

^ But that's what I said man.