Dragon Ball: Evolution- Speculation and Discussion

JAPPO · Post by **JAPPO** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 1:50 am

You guys, I think it's all part of a huge government conspiracy to make Akira Toriyama say good things about stuff.

SSJ2bardock · Post by **SSJ2bardock** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 2:19 am

JAPPO wrote:You guys, I think it's all part of a huge government conspiracy to make Akira Toriyama say good things about stuff.

My thoughts exactly

Tsukento · Post by **Tsukento** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 2:20 am

Corey does have a point though.

Toriyama's basically saying that a way for fans and himself to enjoy it may have to involve looking at it as an alternate universe. Looking at it as supposedly being a live action version of the series is definitely not going to sit well (it hasn't with me). Some people are going to have to look at it as "This isn't THE Dragon Ball I saw, but a different take on it."

However, that also won't sit well with everyone. Looking at this as Dragon Ball in live action, I don't like it. Looking at it as an alternate universe, I still don't like it. Hell, looking at it as an American kung-fu flick, I still don't get any good feelings out of it.

Bussani · Post by **Bussani** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 2:22 am

Acid_Reign wrote:Notice how he’s making excuses for it? He wouldn’t have to do that if he were genuinely pleased.

Personally 'a new take, taking Dragon Ball into a different dimension' is how I imagined the movie from the beginning, so I wouldn't really call it an excuse.

Innagadadavida · Post by **Innagadadavida** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 2:40 am

JAPPO wrote:You guys, I think it's all part of a huge government conspiracy to make Akira Toriyama say good things about stuff.

"So, Mr. Toriyama, what are your thoughts on terrorism?"
"Well, I've had the chance to meet some terrorists, and they're really nice people."

Sprite Satan · Post by **Sprite Satan** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 2:44 am

Innagadadavida wrote:"So, Mr. Toriyama, what are your thoughts on terrorism?"
"Well, I've had the chance to meet some terrorists, and they're really nice people."

Hah!

"I like to think of terrorism as looking at peace from a different point of view. Maybe it would be fair to say terrorists are like peacekeepers viewed from another dimension?"

DominatorLost · Post by **DominatorLost** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 3:15 am

At least he doesn't have the same approach as Yoshiyuki Tomino.

Innagadadavida · Post by **Innagadadavida** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 3:21 am

DominatorLost wrote:At least he doesn't have the same approach as Yoshiyuki Tomino.

Which was.... ???

DBZOceanHD · Post by **DBZOceanHD** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 3:56 am

Toriyama has always been his own harshest critic, but has generally praised other Dragonball media. "Huh?" would be anyone's response to this. But I guess after looking over it, he actually didn't mind it as much.

Or, he doesn't really like it and is really over praising it. Either way.

JAPPO · Post by **JAPPO** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:03 am

I think anyone would go "huh" if they started reading the script before knowing it was different from the anime.

But once you get passed that you'll probably (I can't speak for everyone) enjoy yourself and appreciate the modern takes on stuff from the manga.

If you're still here after DBGT, you'll still be here after the movie. Definitely.

Bura · Post by **Bura** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 7:36 am

Even though Toriyama seems to approve of the movie and says you have to view it as a different kind of Dragonball, I, being a fan for so long simply can't. The way the movie has become was just not what I had imagined for a DB movie.

Anyway, my positive meter about the movie is currently at a 35%... I hope it'll increase after I see it but...
Sorry Toriyama-sama, you haven't convinced me (yet)...

Timo · Post by **Timo** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:10 am

Behold the German Trailer!

No, really it's a fandub. But I like it.

JulieYBM · Post by **JulieYBM** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:37 am

SSj Kaboom wrote:
Akira Toriyama wrote:As the original creator, I had a feeling of "Huh?" upon seeing the screenplay and the character designs
Well, if we want to assume he was telling the truth with this part, I see no reason why we shouldn't take the second half of the quote to heart either:

Akira Toriyama wrote:Maybe the right way for me and all the fans to appreciate it is as a New Dragonball of a different dimension.

Yeah well, the thing is...it's too different. Not similar enough to the original with too many pointless changes that remove--or rather--moves Son Gokû into being a standard wangst-ridden American teen hero played by a guy almost thirty.

DominatorLost · Post by **DominatorLost** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:09 pm

Innagadadavida wrote:
DominatorLost wrote:At least he doesn't have the same approach as Yoshiyuki Tomino.
Which was.... ???

He's the creator of Gundam and he's notorious for always seeming like a miserable man.

Super Ghost Kamikaze · Post by **Super Ghost Kamikaze** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:32 pm

I don't care what Toriyama thinks anyway. Toriyama's opinions aren't my own.

This is not to say "I hate it" or "I love it", by the way. I simply don't define myself by, or view my opinions through the lens of Toriyama's expressed opinions, or what I try to make his words say.

I'm still intrigued by the prospect of this film. Not won over, exactly, but I never expected some bright and colorful live action version of the anime series anyway. I know what I want from this movie, and I still haven't seen anything that didn't leave me completely mixed.

The Tori-bot · Post by **The Tori-bot** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:53 pm

Akira Toriyama wrote:Maybe the right way for me and all the fans to appreciate it is as a New Dragonball of a different dimension.

Could it be... THAT DIMENSION...?!?

Yes, it all makes sense...! All of the Namekians that Vegeta sent to "another dimension" banded together in that dimension to create a vessel of negative power to destroy their murderer and bring forth an unspeakable evil powerful enough to escape the confines of that dimension and cross into this one!

That evil's name...?

DRAGON BALL: EVOLUTION.

Which is why Vegeta isn't in the movie.

It all makes sense, I tell you...!!

*is dragged away kicking and screaming*

omegacwa · Post by **omegacwa** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 1:20 pm

I am still really looking forward to this movie. I don't think we have received any negative information in the past couple weeks or so, so that's good.

Also, I have some info for you people.

Everyone is hating on the trailers lines of.

"I'm not ready for this..."
"Your the only one who can do it!"
and
"Cool..."

Well, I have some interesting info. Besides the fact that trailers ALWAYS contain edited lines, alternate scenes, lower quality special effects and so on I have a great example.

I picked up X-Men 3 (which I has been growing on me) and watched it last night. Immediately following the movie, I watched the two trailers that were on the disc. I had seen them both before the movie came out, but I hadn't seen them in years. And you know what? To my surprise, the trailer contained many lines that don't even appear in the film. Not only that, but the lines that do appear in the film were altered to match stuff in the trailer, even though there context is completely different in the actual film. Also the special effects were bland and under polished compared to the final film. And there were some alternate angles and takes.

So everyone, rejoice, as "I'm not ready for this.." Will, most likely, not appear in the film. And it is obvious that Roshi is not talking to Goku during the "You're the only one who can do it!" scene. And if Jappo's script is accurate, Roshi actually says "I'm the only one who can do it!" referring to the Mafuba.

Kingdom Heartless · Post by **Kingdom Heartless** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 2:19 pm

I just watched it for the 4th time, and I have to say, it seems to look more fun every time I watch it.

JAPPO · Post by **JAPPO** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 4:28 pm

Nuff said

Tsukento · Post by **Tsukento** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 4:40 pm

You can tell that's definitely not based off of the actual series by the fact that Yamcha's beating Piccolo.

Yamcha never wins.