Was Gohan stronger than Goku at the end of Z?

[Wojak]

And as I said, Gohan's so strong at that point he'd have to bench press mountains or something to get any stronger.

Broly can destroy galaxies so I don't see how that's valid as an argument.
And even Broly got stronger than Gohan. His power keeps rising.

His power is maximum.

Still I agree on that he probably couldn't rise his powerlevel much more.
I guess that with Super Saiya-jin, you can keep at base and have a limited power, thus a higher strain on the body, making you stronger.
But with all his power unlocked, Gohan can't do that kind of training, since he will always tap into his full power. But that's maybe not all that bad since he may be at his maximum already.

[jjgp1112]

And that brings me to another question. Since Gohan had all of his power drawn out, it basically kept him from using the Super Saiyan forms. So do you think if Gohan did enough training wow he still had the power-up and managed to actually increase his power, could he have evntually been able to go SSJ with the Mystic Power-Up?

[Wojak]

And that brings me to another question. Since Gohan had all of his power drawn out, it basically kept him from using the Super Saiyan forms. So do you think if Gohan did enough training wow he still had the power-up and managed to actually increase his power, could he have evntually been able to go SSJ with the Mystic Power-Up?

He "did" the SSJ transformation to be able to reach his "Mystic" form.
So I guess that any transformations he had got changed into his Mystic form.
And also, if he could transform, he still would just have lost ki.

[Saiyan-Professor]

And that brings me to another question. Since Gohan had all of his power drawn out, it basically kept him from using the Super Saiyan forms. So do you think if Gohan did enough training wow he still had the power-up and managed to actually increase his power, could he have evntually been able to go SSJ with the Mystic Power-Up?

When Son Gohan fought Super Buu and Dende healed him he did not receive any near-death power so I believe he was at his absolute limit. I know some argue that the near-death power up was non-existent after Namek but Herms stated that many usually misquote/mistranslate a line in one of the Daizenshuu and the near-death power was still around.

[shinaobi]

He can't do any better; Super Buu mentioned that, even after getting healed up, Gohan's powerlevel didn't rise. The Mystic power-up basically put him right up at his absolute tip-top. The only reason he didn't go Super Saiyan afterwards(GT silliness excepted) was because he had no reason to; he could still do it, but there was no reason to put the strain on his body.

[Saiyan-Professor]

He can't do any better; Super Buu mentioned that, even after getting healed up, Gohan's powerlevel didn't rise. The Mystic power-up basically put him right up at his absolute tip-top. The only reason he didn't go Super Saiyan afterwards(GT silliness excepted) was because he had no reason to; he could still do it, but there was no reason to put the strain on his body.

I do not know because Old Kaiôshin told Son Gohan to fire it up as he does with Super Saiyan. Does that mean all he had to do was act as if he was going Super Saiyan and instead of the transformation, he would just power up the Ultimate? I am awaiting Herms to get to the “Z” portion of his manga comparisons in order to see whether that translation is accurate.

[Rocketman]

The only reason he didn't go Super Saiyan afterwards(GT silliness excepted) was because he had no reason to

Super Gotenks Buu was tearing him apart. How's that for a reason?

[Casual Matt]

The only reason he didn't go Super Saiyan afterwards(GT silliness excepted) was because he had no reason to

Super Gotenks Buu was tearing him apart. How's that for a reason?

I think what he means is that transforming wouldn't have increased Gohan's power since he was already maxed out.

[omegacwa]

I know this seems kinda off topic, but I personally believe that Goku and Vegeta, both at SSJ2, working together could have killed Evil Fat Buu. Vegeta did pretty well on his own, if Buu couldn't regenerate than I think Vegeta could have killed him, but the combined effort of Goku and Vegeta I think could have defeated Buu.

I think Fat Buu is probably like, a super strong SSJ2 in strength, with Kid Buu being Equal to a SSJ3ish, and Super Buu obviously being superior to both.

[Saiyan-Professor]

I know this seems kinda off topic, but I personally believe that Goku and Vegeta, both at SSJ2, working together could have killed Evil Fat Buu. Vegeta did pretty well on his own, if Buu couldn't regenerate than I think Vegeta could have killed him, but the combined effort of Goku and Vegeta I think could have defeated Buu.

I think Fat Buu is probably like, a super strong SSJ2 in strength, with Kid Buu being Equal to a SSJ3ish, and Super Buu obviously being superior to both.

I think Buu was around resting power Super Saiyan 3 because of how he was trading blows with Kakarrot and the speed he demonstrated later in that fight. Yet, I believe two Super Saiyan 2s could have taken him out nonetheless. However, we know Toriyama had to have Kakarrot pull something out of his behind to upstage Vegeta.

[Travis Touchdown]

To answer OP, we'll never know. At this point, all we know is that Gohan is mostly dedicated to his job, whatever he does, and being a good father and husband. That will most likely eat up a fair portion of his time, but he lives next door to his dad, who forces Goten to train by the way, so I don't see it as entirely impossible that he trains alongside Goku whenever he has the free time.

[Saiyan-Professor]

...but he lives next door to his dad, who forces Goten to train by the way, so I don't see it as entirely impossible that he trains alongside Goku whenever he has the free time.

I seriously doubt it because Son Gohan has always been lazy and a little punk.

[Wojak]

...but he lives next door to his dad, who forces Goten to train by the way, so I don't see it as entirely impossible that he trains alongside Goku whenever he has the free time.

I seriously doubt it because Son Gohan has always been lazy and a little punk.

And Goten get's forced to train. Why wouldn't Gohan too?
EDIT: He probably had all his power unleashed so he didn't need to train.

[JulieYBM]

...but he lives next door to his dad, who forces Goten to train by the way, so I don't see it as entirely impossible that he trains alongside Goku whenever he has the free time.

I seriously doubt it because Son Gohan has always been lazy and a little punk.

Why the hell are you looking down on a fictional character like that?

[Bussani]

And as I said, Gohan's so strong at that point he'd have to bench press mountains or something to get any stronger.

Broly can destroy galaxies so I don't see how that's valid as an argument.
And even Broly got stronger than Gohan. His power keeps rising.

His power is maximum.

Still I agree on that he probably couldn't rise his powerlevel much more.
I guess that with Super Saiya-jin, you can keep at base and have a limited power, thus a higher strain on the body, making you stronger.
But with all his power unlocked, Gohan can't do that kind of training, since he will always tap into his full power. But that's maybe not all that bad since he may be at his maximum already.

Broli's a mutant, he doesn't count. Plus as stong as he is, he's never been shown to reach Buu saga levels. Even a standard SSJ2 could probably beat him, let alone the multitude of stuff after SSJ2.

And that brings me to another question. Since Gohan had all of his power drawn out, it basically kept him from using the Super Saiyan forms. So do you think if Gohan did enough training wow he still had the power-up and managed to actually increase his power, could he have evntually been able to go SSJ with the Mystic Power-Up?

Unless he somehow gained x50 his Mystic strength, it wouldn't be enough to give the standard boost of an SSJ. And somehow gaining x50 of his already ridiculously huge power is kind of unlikely.

Rou Dai Kaioshin basically told Gohan to use his "Super Thing" and that's what triggered all his power coming out. It replaces transformations, Rou Dai Kaioshin called transformations "just show biz" as in they're not really necessary. There's nothing to imply he even could go Super Saiyajin any more, whether it would give him a boost or not.

[Wojak]

Broli's a mutant, he doesn't count. Plus as stong as he is, he's never been shown to reach Buu saga levels. Even a standard SSJ2 could probably beat him, let alone the multitude of stuff after SSJ2.

I was just joking around with that statement. I even said that "his power is maximum".

And JulieYBM, Saiyan-Professor thinks that Gohan is a whiny candy-ass-faggot that got everything power-wise served on a silver plate.

[Saiyan-Professor]

...but he lives next door to his dad, who forces Goten to train by the way, so I don't see it as entirely impossible that he trains alongside Goku whenever he has the free time.

I seriously doubt it because Son Gohan has always been lazy and a little punk.

Why the hell are you looking down on a fictional character like that?

Rocketman does the exact same thing, he even says things far beyond the stuff I say about Son Gohan, yet you do not even call him out like that. Do you have a problem with me?

...And JulieYBM, Saiyan-Professor thinks that Gohan is a whiny candy-ass-faggot that got everything power-wise served on a silver plate.

Well, is that a lie?

[Bussani]

Broli's a mutant, he doesn't count. Plus as stong as he is, he's never been shown to reach Buu saga levels. Even a standard SSJ2 could probably beat him, let alone the multitude of stuff after SSJ2.

I was just joking around with that statement. I even said that "his power is maximum".

Ah, fair enough.

[JulieYBM]

I seriously doubt it because Son Gohan has always been lazy and a little punk.

Why the hell are you looking down on a fictional character like that?

Rocketman does the exact same thing, he even says things far beyond the stuff I say about Son Gohan, yet you do not even call him out like that. Do you have a problem with me?

...And JulieYBM, Saiyan-Professor thinks that Gohan is a whiny candy-ass-faggot that got everything power-wise served on a silver plate.

Well, is that a lie?

I've not gotten around to bringing it up with him yet. Your comment was the last I've seen and as such is the one to have broken the camel's back.

[Wojak]

Well, is that a lie?

No, it's more of an opinion that has formed in your mind after having gathered information from the manga/anime. It can also be seen as your own experience of the events.
Nevertheless, to have an opinion is a human right, and it should be respected equally amongst all people.