Dragon Ball: Evolution- Speculation and Discussion

Saiyan-Professor · Post by **Saiyan-Professor** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 2:31 pm

omegacwa wrote:...Although I do agree he came off as a bit of jerk when he refused to do the Kame Hame Ha. I mean, who wouldn't want to do that. I mean, if I personally played Goku, I would be all over doing that kind of promotion.

I usually agree with you on many of the things you have said in this thread concerning the movie overall but I would have disagree with the above comment. Some actors just view their roles as another job; something to pay the bills put clothes on their backs and put food on the table. While we all are Super Dragonball fans, the majority of the rest of the world are not. I love Dragonball as much as the next Daizenshuu EX forum member but I do not stand around mimicking the “Kame Hame Ha” pose or the Gyalic Ho for that matter. Therefore, I can understand why Chatwin refused to do it in an interview. I do not see why that would make him a jerk.

RyujiOtogi · Post by **RyujiOtogi** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 2:35 pm

You don't know if he's lying about being a fan of the manga or not.

You can't blame him for any of the story or character changes to the movie. So what reason is there for us to suspect that he isn't a fan? He claims that he read all 42 volumes of the manga. I can't imagine that he would particularly hate the series after reading that much of it.

sangofe · Post by **sangofe** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 3:15 pm

The Tori-bot wrote: apparently my dad saw the trailer a few days ago. when he was at the cinema at work
He mentioned Bulma's Capsule-like thing and, GET THIS...

"Cool..."
He said it looked quite good and that he actually might be interested in seeing it.

Wow, is your daddy a Dragonball fan, or action movie fan?

Chrono Trigger · Post by **Chrono Trigger** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 3:31 pm

Saiyan-Professor wrote:I usually agree with you on many of the things you have said in this thread concerning the movie overall but I would have disagree with the above comment. Some actors just view their roles as another job; something to pay the bills put clothes on their backs and put food on the table. While we all are Super Dragonball fans, the majority of the rest of the world are not. I love Dragonball as much as the next Daizenshuu EX forum member but I do not stand around mimicking the “Kame Hame Ha” pose or the Gyalic Ho for that matter. Therefore, I can understand why Chatwin refused to do it in an interview. I do not see why that would make him a jerk.

I find it kinda funny actually. It seems like something you'd expect from George Costanza or Larry David.

JAPPO · Post by **JAPPO** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:31 pm

Bura wrote:
omegacwa wrote:How do you know he lied about being a fan of the manga? Do you have proof that he never read it? Hmm?
He mentioned it various times in other interviews. He himself is not a fan of the manga but his friends are.
Guess I'll have to go through all the interviews to proof it -_-"

You're wrong. He said he was never a fan of it but read the entire manga for the role.

The Tori-bot · Post by **The Tori-bot** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:07 pm

sangofe wrote:
The Tori-bot wrote: apparently my dad saw the trailer a few days ago. when he was at the cinema at work
He mentioned Bulma's Capsule-like thing and, GET THIS...

"Cool..."
He said it looked quite good and that he actually might be interested in seeing it.

Wow, is your daddy a Dragonball fan, or action movie fan?

Neither. He's not really an action movie (or really just movie) "fan", per se, but he does like action movies in general. If a movie tickles his fancy, he'll watch it. There are some movies he loves, though, mostly Al Pacino and Bruce Lee ones.

As for my dad being a DB fan...

Bura · Post by **Bura** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:09 pm

JAPPO wrote:
Bura wrote:
omegacwa wrote:How do you know he lied about being a fan of the manga? Do you have proof that he never read it? Hmm?
He mentioned it various times in other interviews. He himself is not a fan of the manga but his friends are.
Guess I'll have to go through all the interviews to proof it -_-"
You're wrong. He said he was never a fan of it but read the entire manga for the role.

I never denied he read the manga =P But reading something doesn't automatically turn you into a fan. I read Naruto and I'm definitely not a fan.

Anyway this is a pretty stupid discussion. If he likes DragonBall, then yay. If he doesn't like it... then well, okay? If he's neutral about it... fine with me?

Anyway, I thought it was funny how Chow Yun-Fat started doing Kamehameha poses on his own XD

SSJ2bardock · Post by **SSJ2bardock** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 8:00 pm

I love how Chatwin said "Mainga" because as I was watching it I was just thinking "Oh man that's really going to annoy some people here

"

Also, can we anoint Chow Yun Fat as the second coming of Jesus or what?

But really though he seems like a super chill guy and I wouldn't mind hanging with him some time.

Innagadadavida · Post by **Innagadadavida** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 8:47 pm

Can somebody explain that pronunciation for me? I go back and fourth all the time because I can't decide. It looks like it's pronounced Mang-uh, but so many people say mon-guh (most of the fellow nerds I know, which isn't many so I'm not sure). And from what I understand, they pronounce it "Mang-uh" in Japan.

MajinVejitaXV · Post by **MajinVejitaXV** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 8:50 pm

Innagadadavida wrote:Can somebody explain that pronunciation for me? I go back and fourth all the time because I can't decide. It looks like it's pronounced Mang-uh, but so many people say mon-guh (most of the fellow nerds I know, which isn't many so I'm not sure). And from what I understand, they pronounce it "Mang-uh" in Japan.

Japanese syllables are similar to their Spanish counterparts. "Mahn-gah" is the proper pronounciation.

-Corey

Innagadadavida · Post by **Innagadadavida** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 8:52 pm

MajinVejitaXV wrote:
Innagadadavida wrote:Can somebody explain that pronunciation for me? I go back and fourth all the time because I can't decide. It looks like it's pronounced Mang-uh, but so many people say mon-guh (most of the fellow nerds I know, which isn't many so I'm not sure). And from what I understand, they pronounce it "Mang-uh" in Japan.
Japanese syllables are similar to their Spanish counterparts. "Mahn-gah" is the proper pronounciation.

-Corey

So then why do so many people say Mon-guh. Manga doesn't look like it should be pronounced that way, because of the "mang." Is there a stress that's missing like Pokemon?

Chuquita · Post by **Chuquita** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 8:59 pm

I don't know where they'd get "mon-ga" from. There isn't any "o" in manga.

SSJ2bardock · Post by **SSJ2bardock** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 9:00 pm

Innagadadavida wrote:
MajinVejitaXV wrote:
Innagadadavida wrote:Can somebody explain that pronunciation for me? I go back and fourth all the time because I can't decide. It looks like it's pronounced Mang-uh, but so many people say mon-guh (most of the fellow nerds I know, which isn't many so I'm not sure). And from what I understand, they pronounce it "Mang-uh" in Japan.
Japanese syllables are similar to their Spanish counterparts. "Mahn-gah" is the proper pronounciation.

-Corey
So then why do so many people say Mon-guh. Manga doesn't look like it should be pronounced that way, because of the "mang." Is there a stress that's missing like Pokemon?

You misinterpreted what he said, the correct pronunciation is mAHnga, not mAYnga.

Chuquita wrote:I don't know where they'd get "mon-ga" from. There isn't any "o" in manga.

It's like a soft A sound, instead of "ay" it's "ah".

Regardless of correct pronunciation, I still say mAYnga.

Pain · Post by **Pain** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 9:38 pm

Why are we debating over Chatwin's fan-worthyness? Does it really matter? I mean, not everyone grew up as a Dragonball fan.

Chuquita · Post by **Chuquita** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 9:52 pm

Pain wrote:Why are we debating over Chatwin's fan-worthyness? Does it really matter? I mean, not everyone grew up as a Dragonball fan.

Actually, him referring to himself in 3rd person in that other interview a while back squicked me way more than him not being a fan of the series.

What was it, he said something like:

Chatwin: Justin isn't a fighter...

Or something like that. The way he said it sounded really cheesy.

JAPPO · Post by **JAPPO** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 10:34 pm

Chatwin isn't that smart but neither is Goku so it all works out.

Pain · Post by **Pain** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 10:52 pm

JAPPO wrote:Chatwin isn't that smart but neither is Goku so it all works out.

You've a point there, eh?

omegacwa · Post by **omegacwa** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 11:05 pm

Saiyan-Professor wrote:
omegacwa wrote:...Although I do agree he came off as a bit of jerk when he refused to do the Kame Hame Ha. I mean, who wouldn't want to do that. I mean, if I personally played Goku, I would be all over doing that kind of promotion.
I usually agree with you on many of the things you have said in this thread concerning the movie overall but I would have disagree with the above comment. Some actors just view their roles as another job; something to pay the bills put clothes on their backs and put food on the table. While we all are Super Dragonball fans, the majority of the rest of the world are not. I love Dragonball as much as the next Daizenshuu EX forum member but I do not stand around mimicking the “Kame Hame Ha” pose or the Gyalic Ho for that matter. Therefore, I can understand why Chatwin refused to do it in an interview. I do not see why that would make him a jerk.

Ha ha, no I don't go around mimicking Dragonball moves. I was just saying that If I was an actor playing a fairly cultural important role, whether it be Wolverine, spiderman, Goku, or Tetsuo, I would be happy to do battle poses for the press.

It's not that he refused that made him sound like a jerk to me, it was that he was like, "No, See the Movie!" and then made up some random excuse about not exercising.

SSJ2bardock · Post by **SSJ2bardock** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 11:10 pm

omegacwa wrote: It's not that he refused that made him sound like a jerk to me, it was that he was like, "No, See the Movie!" and then made up some random excuse about not exercising.

The random excuse was supposed to be a joke, you don't seriously think he didn't do it because he couldn't "harness his ki" do you?

omegacwa · Post by **omegacwa** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 11:14 pm

I understand it was supposed to be a joke, but I think it would have taken less effort to just stand up and do the damn move then to come up with a joke that was lost on a non English speaking crowd.

I personally don't have a problem with Justin Chatwin, just something about his reaction to that request irked me is all.