Worst movie villain?

Endishiki · Post by **Endishiki** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 1:39 am

So many to pick from...!

Garlic Jr (Little midget... with SUPER transformation!)
Dr. Willow (Hubongous robot with brain inside it)
Tales (Evil Goku... with SUPER FRUITY power up)
Slug (Retread of Piccolo D./Piccolo Jr battles... with SUPER HUGE increase)
Cooler/Metal Cooler (Retread of Freeza with FIFTH FORM/Terminator-esque Metallic form)
Android 13/Super Android 13 (Hick Android)
Broly/Bio-Broly (Supposed LSSj who appears twice, probably an attempt at recreating Cell's neatness; clone of LSSj that is covered in goop)
Bojack (Bloodthirsty gypsy pirate knockoff of Cell from outer space with SUPER transformation)
Janemba (Insanely powerful knockoff of Fat Buu/Kid Buu with two distinct forms)
Hildegarn (Godzilla-esque monster with some standard villainous abilities... and a super transformation, of course)

I honestly think that Broly takes the cake... while Movie 8 had quite a few good moments, it all fell apart as soon as Broly 'snapped'. Unlike the other movies, where Goku and friends easily sweep through henchmen/manage to leave a mark on the villain before the evil guy becomes super powerful, the Broly battle was essentially, "Hey! Let's all throw our heads at this brick wall and see if we can make it crack!"

Movie 10 started out well, too, and there were a few funny moments... but Broly returned to repeat his antics from Movie 8. At least we see Broly exploding painfully at the end.

Movie 11 was actually rather fun. Only movie to have Artificial Human 18! Goten, Trunks, and even Kuririn all get to take a stab at the monster. He's still about the same, and much of the movie is about the same. At least he actually receives damage this time around! Broly also dies in a rather lame way (contact with water), a fitting end for such a villain.

Deus ex Machina · Post by **Deus ex Machina** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 3:33 am

I choose Slug; the guy was a retard of a villian, killing his own henchmen for his own amusement (Makes you wonder how you can hire new help?), and seemed to have no greater goal than to transform planets to go joy riding...that's aside from the fact that he was a King Piccolo rip-off, with absolutely nothing new.

SonGokuGT · Post by **SonGokuGT** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 3:35 am

I think Broly was a cool villain! But Bio-Broly is extremely lame, and by far the worst villain!

Post by **TripleRach** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 4:27 am

I wasn't very impressed with Broli, and Slug just sucked. But I'd have to say that I've always found Dr. Willow to be incredibly lame. Not sure why, but I just don't like him.

Ben Plante · Post by **Ben Plante** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 4:58 am

I think I'll make my first post with actual substance since who knows how long ago...

By saying that COOLA is my least favorite. I'm not kidding. Not Metal Coola, he was bad-ass, being a big, you know, Death Star and stuff. But COOLA bored me. I capitilized just to emphasize the hate. I shan't do it again.

"But Ben-sama, why hate Coola? You like Freeza?"
Indeed, I love Freeza. That's why. Because Coola is Freeza. I saw him already.

Most importantly, and this has probably been mentioned once or twice in the past, his fifth form really screws up the whole uber-coolness behind the fact that the ultimate Freeza form was... so un-ultimate looking. That was awesome. Then Coola shows up and his ultimate form is a stupid predictable beast thing.

And his death sucks! The sun? ... If I wrote that ending, I'd delete the entire story that it was in out of hatred at myself for coming up with. (I don't mean to subconsciously mention that writing is my hobby, it just keeps coming up a lot since I do the "If I wrote that" thing a lot). But don't ask me to defend and say how I would've written Coola's death. I couldn't tell you because I'd have to brainstorm for a long time, which is just far too troublesome. And for all I know it would've been a worse idea than the sun. But that doesn't make the sun any better as it stands.

And his minions were lame. But they always are, so, you know. Whatever.

But I'll thank the sun just because it allowed for Metal Coola. Thank you sun. "No proiblem Ben!" he says while holding two scoops of raisins because I'm insane.

Dai · Post by **Dai** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 10:21 am

I liked the first Coola movie because Piccolo kicked ass in it. I didn't terribly like Coola himself, but I do think his final form looked like somewhat of a badass. Other than that, nothing special. But Metal Coola is probably my favourite movie villain... Aside from Janenba.

Least favourite is definitely Lord Slug. He was a moron, and he looked stupid.

A close follow-up, though, is Super 13. I mean, dear lord. The punching Goku in the crotch thingie is the only thing that makes him slightly better than Lord Slug.

Post by **VegettoEX** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 11:24 am

I'm going with Slug. I can definitely agree with Ben's points about Coola simply being Freeza, but I think Slug goes to that line, spits on it, runs across it, comes back 45 minutes later, and kicks you in the balls for extra effect.

Wishes for youth? Grows 00ber tall? Concentrated pure evil Namekian? Dozens of other things that were already done in both the Piccolo-Daimao / Ma Junior arc? Give. Me. A. Break.

Sun_Wukong · Post by **Sun_Wukong** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 12:04 pm

Lets go down the list

-Dr.Willow (basically Assistant Black's Mech but updated for DBZ, lame)
-Tullece (Another Saiyan -_-, decent movie but used up idea)
-Lord Slug (he's Piccolo Daimao, but he's not -_- super-lame)
-Super #13 (more androids?? come on, the idea was overplayed in the anime as it is, uber-lame)
-Brolly/super deformed looking clone ("I cant believe its not Vejiita(Butter)") lame

All the other movie villains I really didnt mind. Am I the only one that actually liked "Dead Zone"?

El_Diablo · Post by **El_Diablo** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 12:21 pm

I liked Dead Zone. Very Toriyama style.

Dislike: Broli and Slug the most. But they're all just ripoffs of the series villains

Xyex · Post by **Xyex** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 12:21 pm

No, because I like all the movies and villains that I've seen (up to movie 7). I guess, out of them all though, I like Dr. Williow the least for some reason that I don't understand. *Shrug*

Frobman · Post by **Frobman** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 1:31 pm

Movies 5, 6, 8 and 12 are my favs, so are the villains as well at some point!

The S · Post by **The S** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 5:08 pm

I'm gonna have to go with Bojack. Other than when he killed Zangya just to get at Gohan, he had nothing going for him.

Jerseymilk · Post by **Jerseymilk** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 7:17 pm

Bio-Brolly is my choice. A disappointing villain, for a disappointing movie.

As a matter of fact, he wasn't even stable. He just became a blob. Toei basically hired the "smooze" from the "My Little Pony Movie" and recast it.

Meri · Post by **Meri** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 8:21 pm

Wow, after reading this thread, I came to the shocking realization that I hate ALL the movie villains. I guess the only one I DON'T hate is Hildegarn, because he doesn't talk.

Dragon · Post by **Dragon** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 8:45 pm

Out of the ones I've seen, Turles and Dr. Willow were thee worst. I mean, I brain in a giant machine which is able to stand up and fight? Lame. Nice idea, but it reminds me of Gundam Wing, and I'm not into giant fighting robots. And Turles looked too much like Goku, was he intended to look that way?

Chibi Mystic Gohan · Post by **Chibi Mystic Gohan** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 10:27 pm

Broli. What a loser. I mean, some little baby cries in the crib next to him, and he wants to kill him? Plus, "Kakarotto!! Kakarotto!!! KAKAFUCKINGROTTO!" although the damn movie.

Endishiki · Post by **Endishiki** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 12:20 am

Chibi Mystic Gohan wrote:Broli. What a loser. I mean, some little baby cries in the crib next to him, and he wants to kill him? Plus, "Kakarotto!! Kakarotto!!! KAKAFUCKINGROTTO!" although the damn movie.

I don't like Broli/Broly/whichever much, either, but as it's been posted elsewhere, he was a bit psychotic already. The fact that Goku's crying makes him hate him is dumb... but, uh, Broly's a nut. And he did say quite a bit more in Movie 8, to tell the truth.

Movie 10... yeah. Ugh.

johnboy1 · Post by **johnboy1** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 2:00 am

Chibi Mystic Gohan wrote:"Kakarotto!! Kakarotto!!! KAKAFUCKINGROTTO!"

I have no idea why, but that made me roll out of my chair laughing.

Chibi Mystic Gohan · Post by **Chibi Mystic Gohan** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 2:05 am

Endishiki wrote:And he did say quite a bit more in Movie 8, to tell the truth.

Yeah, in his calm state, he's like "Ka.kakarotto... *Twitches*
In his LSSj state, it's "I'm'MA KILL YOU KAKAFUCKINGROTTO!!!"

SDHero · Post by **SDHero** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 4:11 am

Broli. He just manages to overstay his welcome by two whole movies, and that's inexcusable. Slug is a worthless retread of Piccolo Daimo/Ma Junior, but he's worthless for 40 minutes or so. After Broli's first, 80-minute appearance in which the Z Fighters take him on for pretty much an entire movie (no henchmen, really), we surely didn't need him back in movie 10. And we sure as hell didn't need god-awful Bio Broli lumbering around looking like the Swamp Beast and Man-Thing had a child together.

The best Broli moment? When Toriyama was asked about him in an interview in Shonen Jump, and had no idea who they were talking about, at all. If only we were all so lucky!