Super Exciting Guide: Character Volume

Senzu_Bean · Post by **Senzu_Bean** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 10:17 am

Bussani wrote:Forgive me, but I don't see where it says that East Kaioshin is meant to be stronger here? All it says is that they have evil hearts and so are sent to the demon realm, there's nothing stopping them from being (or maybe becoming) stronger than a Kaioshin?

Right here:

Herms wrote:Toriyama says that it seems at the moment, the Kaioshin’s power is greater than the Makaioshin

I might be reading it wrong though.

Bussani wrote:Edit: Or maybe just becoming Babidi's servant was what made Dabura so strong? I forget if anyone mentions anything like that.

That is correct! If Vegeta received such increase Dabura should received one as well.

B · Post by B » Fri Apr 10, 2009 10:22 am

It says "at the moment" but just what is that? The series has been long over, so perhaps around Buu Saga time, Demons are on top?

omegacwa · Post by **omegacwa** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 10:23 am

If anyone cares here are some rough conversions.

Goku
Height: 5'7
Weight: 136lbs

Gohan
Height: 5'8
Weight: 134lbs

Goten
Height: 4'1
Weight: 57lbs

Vegeta
Height: 5'4
Weight: 123lbs

Future Trunks
Height: 5'6
Weight: 132lbs

Kid Trunks
Height: 4'2
Weight: 66lbs

Piccolo
Height: 7'3
Weight: 255lbs

Kuririn
Height: 5'1
Weight: 99lbs

Yamcha
Height: 6'
Weight: 150lbs

Kame-Sen'nin
Height:5'4
Weight: 96lbs

Tenshinhan
Height: 6'1
Weight: 165lbs

Chaozu
Height: 4'5
Weight: 72lbs

Yajirobe
Height: 5'4
Weight: 171lbs

Bulma
Height: 5'4
Weight: 107lbs

Chi Chi
Height: 5'3
Weight: 110lbs

Mr. Satan
Height: 6'2
Weight: 207lbs

Videl
Height: 5'1
Weight: 103lbs

Well anyway, they might be slightly off but they are close enough. Enjoy my none metric friends.

SHINOBI-03 · Post by **SHINOBI-03** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 10:28 am

B wrote:
SHINOBI-03 wrote:I also laughed about Tenshinhan's and Chaozu's favorite food... THEY LIKE TO EAT EACH OTHER!!!
I can't help but think yaoi.

Oh God!! Stop the fan-girls right now!!

And... I just mesured my hight... and "Holy Crap" with an "Ouch, My pride" I'm shorter than Kuririn by 1 cm!!

Son Sebbe · Post by **Son Sebbe** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 12:42 pm

Is it just me or are those weights looking very... Unrealistick?

Most of the charechers a very light?

B · Post by B » Fri Apr 10, 2009 1:50 pm

They all weigh around a hundred pounds, which is average, IIRC. Plus, they all work out.

The heights are strange, if anything. I'd expect the Saiyans to be at least 6".

Tanooki Kuribo · Post by **Tanooki Kuribo** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 1:53 pm

Mr.Satan's real name is Mark? Wow. I... I don't know what to say. Wow.

Post by **Herms** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 2:26 pm

B wrote:Interesting. Of course, this raises a few questions: Were there illustrations of the Core People? Do they basically look like Kaios? Where was North Kaio's replacement after he died? Or the other Kaioshin after dying from Buu? I guess this kind of stuff happens when you think things up on the spot/after the series ended.

There weren't any pictures of a regular Core Person, they just used pictures from the series of South Kaio and East Kaioshin. Even with the pictures of the tree and its fruit, the pictures are generic ones clearly not drawn by Toriyama.

With the Kaioshin replacements, it says that the special golden fruit is very rare, so maybe no more have grown in the last five million years? With North Kaio, even dead he's still able to perform his duties (he just has a halo over his head now), so I guess he wouldn't need a replacement. But then that raises the question of why they'd ever need to replace a dead Kaio at all.

B wrote:It says "at the moment" but just what is that? The series has been long over, so perhaps around Buu Saga time, Demons are on top?

It's also possible that Dabra no longer counts as a Makaioshin or whatever he was now that he's Babidi's servent.

Kunzait_83 · Post by **Kunzait_83** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 2:46 pm

rereboy · Post by **rereboy** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 3:32 pm

Herms wrote: With the Kaioshin replacements, it says that the special golden fruit is very rare, so maybe no more have grown in the last five million years?

I believe that this is the answer.

Herms wrote:With North Kaio, even dead he's still able to perform his duties (he just has a halo over his head now), so I guess he wouldn't need a replacement. But then that raises the question of why they'd ever need to replace a dead Kaio at all.

Maybe they only need to replace a kaio when the kaio wants to retire. Normally that is at the end of his life and he retires happily like all others souls to the heaven part or hell part of the after life (I`ll assume its the heaven part

).

However there can be exceptions... For exemple, if a Kaio is killed instead of just dying naturally, maybe he doesn´t want to retire just yet. And since he`s capable of being the kaio, there is nothing to stop him. And he then retires when he`s ready. Then they choose randownly a substitute.

As for the kaioshin I assume its the same.. However there is still the question of why didn`t the kaioshins that buu killed continue to do their jobs.

Post by **Herms** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 3:47 pm

rereboy wrote:As for the kaioshin I assume its the same.. However there is still the question of why didn`t the kaioshins that buu killed continue to do their jobs.

Perhaps Buu killed them after they died too, so that they disappeared from the afterlife as well.

B · Post by B » Fri Apr 10, 2009 3:49 pm

Isn't it possible even though your dead, you can still lose your body? I can't remember if that was brought up in Movie 12 or the Buu Saga, if at all.

Post by **Herms** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 3:56 pm

B wrote:Isn't it possible even though your dead, you can still lose your body? I can't remember if that was brought up in Movie 12 or the Buu Saga, if at all.

Goku tells Vegeta during the final battle with Buu that if Vegeta gets killed again in his dead state, then he will disappear from both the living world and afterlife.

Dr. Casey · Post by **Dr. Casey** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 4:11 pm

B wrote:They all weigh around a hundred pounds, which is average, IIRC. Plus, they all work out.

Yeah, they probably have like 0.1 percent body fat.

My favorite part is Tenshinhan and Chaozu's favorite foods. XD Oh, Toriyama.

rereboy · Post by **rereboy** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 4:14 pm

Herms wrote:
rereboy wrote:As for the kaioshin I assume its the same.. However there is still the question of why didn`t the kaioshins that buu killed continue to do their jobs.
Perhaps Buu killed them after they died too, so that they disappeared from the afterlife as well.

I thought of that... But two of them weren`t exactly killed... They were absorbed...

Maybe buu killed two of them "twice" and the ones he absorbed couldn`t get their bodies back because their bodies were absorbed, and so they couldn`t be kaioshin no longer.

I say this because in DB you have to have a special permission to keep your body when you die and you need a "god" to give you that body... Thats because when goku died the first time, he only got to keep his body because he died for the greater good and Kami helped him out.

Maybe kaios and kaioshins can keep their bodies if they want to when they die without any help because they are "gods" (kaio did when Cell exploded, I think) but those two couldn`t because their bodies were absorbed by buu... And buu has very powerfull magic and etc...

Tweaker · Post by **Tweaker** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 4:36 pm

Very cool information! I enjoyed the character chart, and Mr. Satan's real name was also a nice surprise. Thanks for sharing!

rereboy · Post by **rereboy** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 5:11 pm

According to wikipedia (ya I know, not very reliable) the average height in japan in 19 year olds in 2006 was 171.5 cm (5' 7.5") for the men and 158.0 cm (5' 2.2") for the women and in 17 year olds in 2005 it was 170.8 cm (5' 7.2") for men and 158.0 cm (5' 2.2") for women.

So the profiles of the DB charathers don`t seem that off in my opinion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_height

Olivier Hague · Post by **Olivier Hague** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 6:47 pm

rereboy wrote:According to wikipedia (ya I know, not very reliable) the average height in japan in 19 year olds in 2006 was 171.5 cm (5' 7.5") for the men and 158.0 cm (5' 2.2") for the women and in 17 year olds in 2005 it was 170.8 cm (5' 7.2") for men and 158.0 cm (5' 2.2") for women.

So the profiles of the DB charathers don`t seem that off in my opinion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_height

But Gokû isn't Asian!! He's an alien!!

Velasa · Post by **Velasa** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 7:14 pm

Let’s see, 226 centimeters is how many inches which is how many......

*pumps arms in the air* FUCK YES, SEVEN FEET (and three inches) !!! I knew it

Now I feel vindicated from all the debates I’ve had with friends about this.

That was -amazing-. Bless you Herms, bless you.

Senzu_Bean · Post by **Senzu_Bean** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 7:30 pm

rereboy wrote:So the profiles of the DB charathers don`t seem that off in my opinion.

The problem are not the height of characters but actually their weight. Take for example Tienshinhan and he should weight no less than 90kg with that mass yet he only weights 75kg.

But with the exception of those this is truly amazing stuff.