Arabic DB DVD "Fire Red" Boxset Review

Captain Awesome · Post by **Captain Awesome** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:59 pm

Oh don't get me wrong, the sets aren't perfect, the bitrates are vary quite a bit (especially during the 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai) and the PAL conversion is quite noticeable if you aren't watching it on a PAL television (or atleast at 50hz).

As for the "cropping" though it's minimal, especially when compared to the season sets centre crop, FUNimation do have film masters for DB, meaning they can telecine it at 1080p so a 16:9 release is likely.

Innagadadavida · Post by **Innagadadavida** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:19 pm

Captain Awesome wrote: As for the "cropping" though it's minimal, especially when compared to the season sets centre crop, FUNimation do have film masters for DB, meaning they can telecine it at 1080p so a 16:9 release is likely.

I'm hoping they learn... It doesn't matter to me either way, but I want them to do what the majority of the fanbase really wants. They have to have learned SOMETHING from the negative feedback. I mean, they could have cropped GT if they thought it was a good idea.

Captain Awesome · Post by **Captain Awesome** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:31 pm

Innagadadavida wrote: I'm hoping they learn... It doesn't matter to me either way, but I want them to do what the majority of the fanbase really wants. They have to have learned SOMETHING from the negative feedback. I mean, they could have cropped GT if they thought it was a good idea.

But the thing is, they couldn't crop GT, you can't really go to animorphic widescreen from fullscreen Digi betas, the best they would have been able to do would be to slap black bars on the top and bottom.

And don't get me wrong, I would love a better release, if they re-released it in fullscreen with a nice progressive encode, I would not hesitate to pick that up.

Commander_Red · Post by **Commander_Red** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 12:15 pm

Innagadadavida wrote:
Through my adventures of researching these sets, I've discovered that they aren't the end all ultimate Dragon Ball set. There are issues with the conversion from NTSC to PAL. From what I understand there was a poor conversion that caused some interlacing. Perfectly fine when watching it on a tube television, but when viewed on a computer monitor, it's headache inducing.

For a temp solution VLC player has deinterlacing options that help with this.

Also why do people want Dragon Ball in widescreen? Z I can understand, but Dragon Ball...?

Innagadadavida · Post by **Innagadadavida** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 12:52 pm

Commander_Red wrote:
Innagadadavida wrote:
Through my adventures of researching these sets, I've discovered that they aren't the end all ultimate Dragon Ball set. There are issues with the conversion from NTSC to PAL. From what I understand there was a poor conversion that caused some interlacing. Perfectly fine when watching it on a tube television, but when viewed on a computer monitor, it's headache inducing.
For a temp solution VLC player has deinterlacing options that help with this.

Also why do people want Dragon Ball in widescreen? Z I can understand, but Dragon Ball...?

Well I would have to research ways to deinterlace while converting from .VOB to .AVI. I'm not sure if that can be done with the tools that I have. If it can be, then I will buy the sets. If not, I'll wait for a better release.

Dragon Ball in widescreen? I don't see why not. Widescreen doesn't bug me. I'll take it either way. I hope they do it full-screen to quell the potential shit storm ahead of time.

Dr. Casey · Post by **Dr. Casey** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 3:22 pm

Commander_Red wrote:Also why do people want Dragon Ball in widescreen? Z I can understand, but Dragon Ball...?

You're one of those Dragon Ball haters?

I thought I knew you, Red.

Captain Awesome · Post by **Captain Awesome** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 5:18 pm

Innagadadavida wrote: Dragon Ball in widescreen? I don't see why not. Widescreen doesn't bug me. I'll take it either way. I hope they do it full-screen to quell the potential shit storm ahead of time.

I'm confused, didn't you cite the zoomed in masters on the 4:3 sets as one of the reasons you wont be purchasing them?, but you're fine with losing more picture just because it's widescreen?

Innagadadavida · Post by **Innagadadavida** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 5:36 pm

Captain Awesome wrote:
Innagadadavida wrote: Dragon Ball in widescreen? I don't see why not. Widescreen doesn't bug me. I'll take it either way. I hope they do it full-screen to quell the potential shit storm ahead of time.
I'm confused, didn't you cite the zoomed in masters on the 4:3 sets as one of the reasons you wont be purchasing them?, but you're fine with losing more picture just because it's widescreen?

Nah, that doesn't bug me so much. I said that it makes the Dragon Ball releases "meh," as in "not perfect."

If I had to choose between zoomed in masters and Season Sets flavor widescreen, I'd go with widescreen.

RemiLeopold · Post by **RemiLeopold** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 10:16 pm

I assumed they did this dub before DBZ. I know that in the Arabic Z dub, they "summon" their oozarus rather then transforming. If I was a little Arabic kid, I'd be willing to buy that; seeing as Saiyans are aliens with funky powers and what not. How did they pull it of in Dragon Ball though? Did they still have the whole "magnetic tail" nonsense?

SHINOBI-03 · Post by **SHINOBI-03** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 11:01 pm

RemiLeopold wrote:I assumed they did this dub before DBZ. I know that in the Arabic Z dub, they "summon" their oozarus rather then transforming. If I was a little Arabic kid, I'd be willing to buy that; seeing as Saiyans are aliens with funky powers and what not. How did they pull it of in Dragon Ball though? Did they still have the whole "magnetic tail" nonsense?

I still can't believe that I really believed all their re-writes like a retarded baby...!!

Daijuken · Post by **Daijuken** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 11:13 pm

SHINOBI-03 wrote:
RemiLeopold wrote:I assumed they did this dub before DBZ. I know that in the Arabic Z dub, they "summon" their oozarus rather then transforming. If I was a little Arabic kid, I'd be willing to buy that; seeing as Saiyans are aliens with funky powers and what not. How did they pull it of in Dragon Ball though? Did they still have the whole "magnetic tail" nonsense?
I still can't believe that I really believed all their re-writes like a retarded baby...!!

So this company are basically the Arab FUNimation when it comes to Dragon Ball... Watch out FUNi, you have competition for the title of the shittiest distributor of the Dragon Ball series...and it's from the Middle East! *gasps!* It's the war on terror...ble licensing of the Dragon Ball series.

SHINOBI-03 · Post by **SHINOBI-03** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 11:22 pm

Daijuken wrote: So this company are basically the Arab FUNimation when it comes to Dragon Ball... Watch out FUNi, you have competition for the title of the shittiest distributor of the Dragon Ball series...and it's from the Middle East!

To be more exact... Venus is the (4Kids+Saban) of the Middle East...
- Stupid re-writes
- stupid cuts
- stupid voices ---- (Luffy & Naruto are voiced by......... a man?!))

Don't compare it to FUNimation... ever....

Commander_Red · Post by **Commander_Red** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 5:22 am

Innagadadavida wrote:
Commander_Red wrote:
Innagadadavida wrote:
Through my adventures of researching these sets, I've discovered that they aren't the end all ultimate Dragon Ball set. There are issues with the conversion from NTSC to PAL. From what I understand there was a poor conversion that caused some interlacing. Perfectly fine when watching it on a tube television, but when viewed on a computer monitor, it's headache inducing.
For a temp solution VLC player has deinterlacing options that help with this.

Also why do people want Dragon Ball in widescreen? Z I can understand, but Dragon Ball...?
Well I would have to research ways to deinterlace while converting from .VOB to .AVI. I'm not sure if that can be done with the tools that I have. If it can be, then I will buy the sets. If not, I'll wait for a better release.

Dragon Ball in widescreen? I don't see why not. Widescreen doesn't bug me. I'll take it either way. I hope they do it full-screen to quell the potential shit storm ahead of time.

It can be done I believe, I was reading something that covered it not too long ago. It was a guide to ripping dvds for amvs if memory serves me.
I was just after a way to get the remastered sets to rip into epsiodes, but it pretty much covered a heap of stuff.
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/ ... index.html

KKZ · Post by **KKZ** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 5:30 pm

SHINOBI-03, how much did the Black and Fire Red Bricks cost, and can I find them for purchase online?

baragon_kun · Post by **baragon_kun** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 9:40 pm

comparision with the dragonboxe's, anyone??

cause it sure the arabic masters display more footage than the US masters, wonder if they show even more than the dragonbox footage, then maybe a Widescreen Matte woulnt be that bad

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 10:06 pm

SHINOBI-03 wrote:- stupid voices ---- (Luffy & Naruto are voiced by......... a man?!))

Male characters voiced by males? HOW DARE THEY

JulieYBM · Post by **JulieYBM** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 10:13 pm

Rocketman wrote:
SHINOBI-03 wrote:- stupid voices ---- (Luffy & Naruto are voiced by......... a man?!))
Male characters voiced by males? HOW DARE THEY

Males playing little boys tend to lack the charm a female can bring to the role. I believe such a practice even dates back the the earlier days of stage with characters like Peter Pan, nay?

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 10:21 pm

JulieYBM wrote:Males playing little boys tend to lack the charm a female can bring to the role. I believe such a practice even dates back the the earlier days of stage with characters like Peter Pan, nay?

Luffy is 17. What measuring system are you using that makes 17 be "a little boy"?

JulieYBM · Post by **JulieYBM** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 10:38 pm

Rocketman wrote:
JulieYBM wrote:Males playing little boys tend to lack the charm a female can bring to the role. I believe such a practice even dates back the the earlier days of stage with characters like Peter Pan, nay?
Luffy is 17. What measuring system are you using that makes 17 be "a little boy"?

The same one Oda used when he wanted Mayumi Tanaka voicing his character.

Really, it's no big deal.