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Post by SSJ2bardock » Wed May 13, 2009 8:36 pm

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omegacwa wrote:I hate to be a dick, but the way Piccolo looked in the movie was superior in every way, I don't even care that they deviated.
Do you mean that movie Piccolo was superior to his original design, or superior to this guy?

Because seriously, you guys are comparing a major Hollywood production, complete with props, professional make-up team and post production digital effects to a $40 cosplay. C'mon.
I think he meant that going the direction they did with his costume in the movie was a wiser decision than it would have been to try to make him look like his anime counterpart.
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Post by Victator Supreme » Wed May 13, 2009 9:45 pm

I hate to be a dick, but the way Piccolo looked in the movie was superior in every way, I don't even care that they deviated.
Thats just incredibly stupid. Comparing a Cosplay to a movie done by a major studio.

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Post by omegacwa » Wed May 13, 2009 11:10 pm

SSJ2bardock wrote:
MisterFlashdude wrote:
omegacwa wrote:I hate to be a dick, but the way Piccolo looked in the movie was superior in every way, I don't even care that they deviated.
Do you mean that movie Piccolo was superior to his original design, or superior to this guy?

Because seriously, you guys are comparing a major Hollywood production, complete with props, professional make-up team and post production digital effects to a $40 cosplay. C'mon.
I think he meant that going the direction they did with his costume in the movie was a wiser decision than it would have been to try to make him look like his anime counterpart.
Yep, that's what I meant.

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Victator Supreme wrote:That's just incredibly stupid. Comparing a Cosplay to a movie done by a major studio.
In that video I posted the guy said he could do better with 40 bucks or whatever, and that the movie version stunk. I disagree. I think his version looked crappy, and could have been done a lot better even on a terrible budget.
I have watched some of this guy's videos before, the point of them is to show you how you can create hollywood level effects(or close to) at home.
I was unimpressed with his Piccolo. That's it.

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Post by Innagadadavida » Mon May 18, 2009 9:07 pm

Dragon Ball Evolution YTMND.
http://mufabamufaba.ytmnd.com/
It's part of the die motherfucker fad.


Also a commenter on dbthemovie.com linked to a French pop-culture article that talked about that dude from Twilight (the one who everybody was speculating to be Vegeta) was with Emmy Rossum at some place...
http://lebuzz.info/2009/05/22930/robert ... -ensemble/

Any French speakers care to translate? Doesn't Dayspring speak French?

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Post by Chuquita » Mon May 18, 2009 9:24 pm

Innagadadavida wrote:Dragon Ball Evolution YTMND.
http://mufabamufaba.ytmnd.com/
It's part of the die motherfucker fad.


Also a commenter on dbthemovie.com linked to a French pop-culture article that talked about that dude from Twilight (the one who everybody was speculating to be Vegeta) was with Emmy Rossum at some place...
http://lebuzz.info/2009/05/22930/robert ... -ensemble/

Any French speakers care to translate? Doesn't Dayspring speak French?

The Robert Patterson (Twilight's Edward) as Vegeta is an April Fools joke created by that DBE fan site that closed down a while back.

They were seen together because they are collaborating on some other project that isn't DB-related.
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Post by Innagadadavida » Mon May 18, 2009 9:30 pm

Chuquita wrote: The Robert Patterson (Twilight's Edward) as Vegeta is an April Fools joke created by that DBE fan site that closed down a while back.
I see then. :oops:

To be honest, I never followed that "rumor" very closely so forgive me. Carry on folks, nothin' to see here.

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Post by Rod » Mon May 18, 2009 9:50 pm

Innagadadavida wrote:
Chuquita wrote: The Robert Patterson (Twilight's Edward) as Vegeta is an April Fools joke created by that DBE fan site that closed down a while back.
I see then. :oops:

To be honest, I never followed that "rumor" very closely so forgive me. Carry on folks, nothin' to see here.
Don't feel bad, you'd be surprised how many people believed it. The site's source was 'www.Variety.com/apris-fools' obviously it didn't go anywhere but apparently noone even bothered to read it :wink:

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Post by The Time Traveller » Tue May 19, 2009 3:22 am

Innagadadavida wrote:Also a commenter on dbthemovie.com linked to a French pop-culture article that talked about that dude from Twilight (the one who everybody was speculating to be Vegeta) was with Emmy Rossum at some place...
http://lebuzz.info/2009/05/22930/robert ... -ensemble/
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Post by Velasa » Wed May 20, 2009 1:43 am

omegacwa wrote:I hate to be a dick, but the way Piccolo looked in the movie was superior in every way, I don't even care that they deviated.
I've actually been all over the costuming for Daimaou in the movie since I first saw it- armor in heavy black and red on a Daimaou man? Fantastic stuff. I could even go with the way they styled his features if he was darker. Anyone remember that comparison shot we had of a promo-ype pic of movie Daimaou grinning wildly at the camera and the actual shot of Daimaou it lined up with? That was awesome.

As for the video? It's not better than the movie version visually. One because Pic isn't that neon in his tones, and two because it's the wrong effing Piccolo and I'd expect a fan to know that <_< Shame on you video boy. It's a decent enough cosplay but I like mine better.
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Post by JAPPO » Fri May 22, 2009 11:48 pm

There's a 28 minute interview with Justin Chatwin on America's Hulu, and it has clips of the final fight that they cut out like Piccolo smashing Goku's face into a rock.


A member of my forum recorded it with his cell phone for people like me who don't live in the United States. FUCK YOU HULU.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2CrnQqcysI
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Post by Kaboom » Sat May 23, 2009 12:25 am

Nice video. Mr. Chatwin's a pretty cool guy.

For anyone watching it on Hulu, the face-into-wall is seen at about the 16-minute mark.
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Post by Chuquita » Sat May 23, 2009 2:05 am

So, this is Hulu, huh? I've seen the "whoo, we're aliens" commercials for it.
Gonna just type a response as I listen.


Question: Why does this series need THREE interviewers? Isn't that a little awkward? Normally isn't this situation switched?
If I were looking at just the screen without any sound I'd think Chatwin was interviewing them. o_O
I mean, I've never seen a host-related TV show where you've got multiple hosts and only one guest; unless you had a three-headed host...but that would bring up all sorts of questions that aren't even related to this interview, so I'll drop that for now. Still...wth? o_O;;;



Kind of agree; you probably won't be bringing your all into your job if you don't have any passion for it.


"Acting class hooker."


Oh man, watching all three interviewers laugh together like that makes this even more surreal. >_O


He was in a movie with Jack!? O_O


Ah, I see; Hulu's like YouTube with more intrusive, TV-style commercials.
I like YouTube's way of doing ads better.


Oh, here we go. Tis Chatku.

"Taking risks" is a good way to put it.


Well, at least he had fun working on it.


I wish Stephen Chow had more involvement...


Another car commercial?

Apocolocolocolypse~

They're talking about Chow Yun Fat now...I don't think they can top that news conference event from a long while ago that was supposed to be a DBE conference which somehow turned into a "How awesome is Chow Yun Fat : Answer in 5 minutes or less" conference. XD


Yeah, while the hair wasn't perfect; Goku's hair was never really designed with logic in mind anyways so no need to overly fret about it. I still kinda wish Chatku would have had the bangs though...I miss the bangs. :(

"This story was different than the regular Dragon Ball manga."
Wow is that an understatement. ^^;;;

I think he may be talking about Jappo's blog there...?

Good to not let the negativity overwhelm ya; while I do have issues with his performance (some overacting, quite a bit of stilted lines), my main beef's with the writer and director of the movie anyways; they're the two people who have the most power over how the characters are portrayed.


Oh! Hello there, not-a-car-ad!

I gotta deduct a couple points for calling it a "ninja film". They're martial artists; there's a difference. ;3

There's a shot of that LOST episode he was in. :3
Oh LOST...why do I have to wait til JANUARY? TT_TT


You can actually sit in on a college class? Did not know that. I'd assume the professor would ask who you are and when you were revealed to not be a student, have you leave the room.


Well, that was interesting; and it definitely looks like the original battle was indeed longer and harder. Looking forward to those deleted scenes. Thanks for sharing!
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Post by jda95 » Sat May 23, 2009 2:19 am

Chuquita wrote:There's a shot of that LOST episode he was in. :3
Oh LOST...why do I have to wait til JANUARY? TT_TT
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When I saw Evolution, I just kept seeing him as Eddie...... :P

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Post by Chuquita » Sat May 23, 2009 2:22 am

jda95 wrote:
Chuquita wrote:There's a shot of that LOST episode he was in. :3
Oh LOST...why do I have to wait til JANUARY? TT_TT
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When I saw Evolution, I just kept seeing him as Eddie...... :P

*Imagines Chatku pulling the "I'm secretly an undercover cop." thing on Yamcha or Piccolo.* XD
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Post by Big Momma » Sat May 23, 2009 2:28 am

Just to clear things up, Hulu actually has legal TV Shows/Movies/Fansubs/etc, which is why they have those ads. :D



Anyway, nice interview. I'm still in the middle of it, and Chatwin seems like a pretty cool guy.
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Post by Chuquita » Sat May 23, 2009 4:25 am

Saw new screenshots for Avatar : The Last Airbender's live action movie; it looks so accurate I feel kind of jealous. TT_TT


I know I shouldn't, but when I look at that all I can think is "WE could have had something that epic! That could have been us!" if only DB's live action movie rights had been in a different pair of hands. (Also heard Avatar's got $250 million to play with for its trilogy, which averages out to about 83 million per movie.)


It shouldn't bother me, but missed opportunities suck. I think DB deserved a better product than what fox gave us. Just have to cut the losses and move on. :(


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I've purposely been avoiding following any news of any other animation-to-live-action movies because of DBE; only reason I even saw these Avatar images were because they were in a newspaper I pick up.
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Post by Big Momma » Sat May 23, 2009 4:32 am

Saw some of the pictures for The Last Airbender, and Aang really doesn't impress me...


I dunno, it might just be his clothes, but it just seems....different. It's kinda like Chatwin's Goku in appearance to me. It's there, but it's just not...the same.
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Post by JAPPO » Sat May 23, 2009 4:13 pm

He looks 5 years old. :P
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Post by Rod » Sat May 23, 2009 4:21 pm

I think it's the tattoo on his forehead, plus he looks younger and has a five o'clock shadow on his head. But compared to Evolution, the Avatar pics have an 'avatar' feel to them. When i first saw the Evolution pics, they didn't even remind me of DragonBall

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Post by dragondyle » Sun May 24, 2009 1:40 am

JAPPO wrote:There's a 28 minute interview with Justin Chatwin on America's Hulu, and it has clips of the final fight that they cut out like Piccolo smashing Goku's face into a rock.


A member of my forum recorded it with his cell phone for people like me who don't live in the United States. FUCK YOU HULU.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2CrnQqcysI
Wait, if i remember correcly, that face-in-rock scene was in the movie.
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