The "original" ending

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Post by Kunzait_83 » Wed May 27, 2009 12:08 pm

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Journey to the West, chapter 26 wrote:The strong man will meet someone stronger still:
Come to naught at last he surely will!
Zephyr wrote:And that's to say nothing of how pretty much impossible it is to capture what made the original run of the series so great. I'm in the generation of fans that started with Toonami, so I totally empathize with the feeling of having "missed the party", experiencing disappointment, and wanting to experience it myself. But I can't, that's how life is. Time is a bitch. The party is over. Kageyama, Kikuchi, and Maeda are off the sauce now; Yanami almost OD'd; Yamamoto got arrested; Toriyama's not going to light trash cans on fire and hang from the chandelier anymore. We can't get the band back together, and even if we could, everyone's either old, in poor health, or calmed way the fuck down. Best we're going to get, and are getting, is a party that's almost entirely devoid of the magic that made the original one so awesome that we even want more.
Kamiccolo9 wrote:It grinds my gears that people get "outraged" over any of this stuff. It's a fucking cartoon. If you are that determined to be angry about something, get off the internet and make a stand for something that actually matters.
Rocketman wrote:"Shonen" basically means "stupid sentimental shit" anyway, so it's ok to be anti-shonen.
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Post by Chibi Mystic Gohan » Wed May 27, 2009 12:09 pm

@Rocketman: Maybe in the anime you can, but he's just screaming in the air in the manga. And do you seriously think that Toriyama intended to have Goku die one week but then he changed his mind in the next?
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Post by Herms » Wed May 27, 2009 1:20 pm

Xyex wrote:The only thing truly confirmed is that he only planned to do up through Pilaf originally and continued, I believe, on a dare, then decided to keep going after the 21st because it had suddenly become super popular. And that later he was getting really tired of doing the story and wanted to stop but kept going due to outside pressure.
He does mention in Daizenshuu 2 that he originally thought he'd end it after they first finished collecting the dragonballs, but do you know any source for him continuing the series on a dare?
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Post by Kunzait_83 » Wed May 27, 2009 1:38 pm

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Journey to the West, chapter 26 wrote:The strong man will meet someone stronger still:
Come to naught at last he surely will!
Zephyr wrote:And that's to say nothing of how pretty much impossible it is to capture what made the original run of the series so great. I'm in the generation of fans that started with Toonami, so I totally empathize with the feeling of having "missed the party", experiencing disappointment, and wanting to experience it myself. But I can't, that's how life is. Time is a bitch. The party is over. Kageyama, Kikuchi, and Maeda are off the sauce now; Yanami almost OD'd; Yamamoto got arrested; Toriyama's not going to light trash cans on fire and hang from the chandelier anymore. We can't get the band back together, and even if we could, everyone's either old, in poor health, or calmed way the fuck down. Best we're going to get, and are getting, is a party that's almost entirely devoid of the magic that made the original one so awesome that we even want more.
Kamiccolo9 wrote:It grinds my gears that people get "outraged" over any of this stuff. It's a fucking cartoon. If you are that determined to be angry about something, get off the internet and make a stand for something that actually matters.
Rocketman wrote:"Shonen" basically means "stupid sentimental shit" anyway, so it's ok to be anti-shonen.
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Post by Xyex » Wed May 27, 2009 2:37 pm

So yeah, take the validity with a grain of salt. Unless Xyex has a more definitive source.
Unfortunately not. It was one of those things I was told of, found interesting but not fully convincing, and was then provided some source for which I promptly forgot upon being convinced it existed. :?

I *think* it was some random bit from an interview that wasn't even *his* interview. He was sitting in with someone else and made it as an off hand remark "I was going to end after the first Dragonball hunt but "so and so" (possibly the person he was sitting with, can't remember for sure) dared me to continue (I think it was because he said he found it a really amusing series, but again not sure) so I figured I'd do a tournament and it got really popular so I just sort of kept going" kind of comments. MAJORLY paraphrased since I only vaguely even remember it, and I'm not even sure I'm remembering the situation right, but yeah, that's what I remember. XD
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Post by Coola Yagami » Wed May 27, 2009 7:50 pm

I remember hearing somewhere stuff about how AT wanted to quit the series but was forced to continue. Like after Freeza, he needed new villians, so he made Gero and 19. But his boss was like 'is that the best you could do? some old guy and a fat guy?'so he created 17 and 18. And again 'two teenage kids?', so he made Cell. 'That weird looking-bug thing?' so he hurried up and created other forms of Cell, and so-forth. And we all know the Buu saga was supposed to leave Goku dead and have Gohan save the day.
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Post by Herms » Wed May 27, 2009 10:43 pm

Toriyama does tell that story behind the succession of villians in the android/Cell arc in Shenlong Times #2.
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