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Post by Eison » Wed Jun 03, 2009 2:41 pm

Great page, it looks fantastic.

Can someone translate this page from the bonus section, the first three page are what happened in Cell and Dabura's universe (or it are chapter covers): http://www.dragonball-multiverse.com/en ... apes4.html

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Post by Scarz » Wed Jun 03, 2009 3:16 pm

JulieYBM wrote:The page you've all been waiting for: http://www.dragonball-multiverse.com/en/page-122.html
It's about fucking time. And that's about all I got to say.

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Post by DaemonCorps » Wed Jun 03, 2009 3:17 pm

Silly Raditz. Guess I should be more surprised if he didn't say anything.

Also, very much digging the bonus sketch pages. Looks like Gohan was a major disappointment in one way or another in both Dabra and Cell's universes.

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Post by The Tori-bot » Wed Jun 03, 2009 3:31 pm

Raditz's comment was the highlight of the page for me. I love dramatic irony.
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Post by jjgp1112 » Wed Jun 03, 2009 4:23 pm

So will this be a draw or what?
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Post by SSJ2bardock » Wed Jun 03, 2009 5:41 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:So will this be a draw or what?
Hard to tell, Cell could rip his leg off and proceed with the beat down or he could be completely turned to stone.
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Post by DNA » Wed Jun 03, 2009 5:46 pm

Oh boy... you guys are in for quite a surprise. All I'm gonna tell you is that the next page blew my mind. Enjoy the waiting until Sunday! :P

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Post by Rocketman » Wed Jun 03, 2009 6:10 pm

DaemonCorps wrote:Looks like Gohan was a major disappointment in one way or another in both Dabra and Cell's universes.
So just like our universe, then?

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Post by Dayspring » Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:52 pm

Eison wrote:Great page, it looks fantastic.

Can someone translate this page from the bonus section, the first three page are what happened in Cell and Dabura's universe (or it are chapter covers): http://www.dragonball-multiverse.com/en ... apes4.html
He says that, as which appears to be normal routine, he couldn't come up with an idea for a cover page. Gogeta Jr came up with 3 ideas: the third one the writer of this update (I'm assuming Salagir) absolutely adored. The first one is Universe 17 (Cell's), in which Cell defeated Gohan in the Kamehameha duel. The second is Dabura from a universe in which Babidi got everything he ever dreamed of (the pic implying that Dabura killed Kaioshin and Gohan before Boo awakened). The third went over big for both of them, with Gogeta Jr mentioning some minor changes to the artwork process (note the swap from Cho-Genkidama to Death Ball) and then they show many different steps got used to find the perfect digital art, inked final version. Some inked, some not. Some coloured, some not. Some with effects, some not, and the final.

As for the new page's translation:
Raditz: "To be had by such a basic technique...'
Goku: "You'd have to want be hit by it." Meaning Goku is finishing Raditz's sentence. Basically Raditz and Goku are both saying the attack was obviously coming and easily dodgeable when it finally did.

Dabura: "I'm going to finish with you!" makes for an awkward translation. A better method would have been to say "I'm finished/done with you!" works better, but changes the tense of the verb. In light of this, the decided upon "I'm going to finish this!" works just as well.

The spitting sound effects: ...WTF?
"Ptui!" translates fine; they even used it as the spit's collision sound! :lol:
I guess they could have used a more drawn out sound like "Ptouiee", but "SPIT", really? "Plitch" makes the same sound as well, so I don't know why they chose "Ptuit" here.
The rest is fine.

The acid spit is fast: it's already progressed to his stomache. I wonder if he's going to decapitate himself to survive, or if Dabura may actually win.
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Post by Xyex » Thu Jun 04, 2009 1:16 pm

I'm expecting Dabura to win with the spit but then get killed in a later match thus resulting in Cell's revival by the time Vegetto and Brolly fight.
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Post by Saiyan-Professor » Thu Jun 04, 2009 2:18 pm

Why does Raditz look like Vegeta in that panel? In addition, I thought when a character’s combat power exceeded others; the ones with the lower power level could not follow their actions or movements. It is clear that those Saiyans are not on Cell and Dabra’s level, so how can they follow the fight?
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Post by The Tori-bot » Thu Jun 04, 2009 2:50 pm

Saiyan-Professor wrote:Why does Raditz look like Vegeta in that panel? In addition, I thought when a character’s combat power exceeded others; the ones with the lower power level could not follow their actions or movements. It is clear that those Saiyans are not on Cell and Dabra’s level, so how can they follow the fight?
I'm sure the creators neither know or give two shits.
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Post by kaioken12 » Thu Jun 04, 2009 4:02 pm

>>> It is clear that those Saiyans are not on Cell and Dabra’s level, so how can they follow the fight?

Of course they can. Everyone could follow Cell and Goku, everyone could see Nappa... Vegeta could follow Goku vs. Ginyu Force or even Goku SSJ3 vs. Kid Buu...

The thing is that they just can't follow if the people they are watching are MUCH faster than them. But they surely don't have to be on the same level at all ;)

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Post by rereboy » Thu Jun 04, 2009 4:13 pm

Saiyan-Professor wrote:Why does Raditz look like Vegeta in that panel? In addition, I thought when a character’s combat power exceeded others; the ones with the lower power level could not follow their actions or movements. It is clear that those Saiyans are not on Cell and Dabra’s level, so how can they follow the fight?
I think that those comments were intended to be just ironic/funny.

And actually we can not say for sure how strong those sayans are.

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Post by Saiyan-Professor » Fri Jun 05, 2009 12:35 am

kaioken12 wrote:>>> It is clear that those Saiyans are not on Cell and Dabra’s level, so how can they follow the fight?

Of course they can. Everyone could follow Cell and Goku, everyone could see Nappa... Vegeta could follow Goku vs. Ginyu Force or even Goku SSJ3 vs. Kid Buu...

The thing is that they just can't follow if the people they are watching are MUCH faster than them. But they surely don't have to be on the same level at all ;)
That is one thing I hated about the post Namek material for back then when you were totally outclassed in battle power you could not follow your opponents movements. Piccolo, Kuririn and Son Gohan made a big deal about Vegeta being able to see Freeza fire his finger beam thingie when they could not. In addition, Piccolo went on and on how Freeza and Kakarrot were in a whole other level and so on. Yet, when that Saga passed everyone could follow most of every individuals moves when the two fighting had a combat strength miles above everyone else’s. People complain about GT diminishing everyone’s power but Z started it post Namek. To me things such as this lessen the significance of someone reaching a new plateau of power.
The Saiyans are very much like the Klingons and Jem'Hadar.

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Post by Wojak » Fri Jun 05, 2009 6:15 am

Saiyan-Professor wrote:
kaioken12 wrote:>>> It is clear that those Saiyans are not on Cell and Dabra’s level, so how can they follow the fight?

Of course they can. Everyone could follow Cell and Goku, everyone could see Nappa... Vegeta could follow Goku vs. Ginyu Force or even Goku SSJ3 vs. Kid Buu...

The thing is that they just can't follow if the people they are watching are MUCH faster than them. But they surely don't have to be on the same level at all ;)
That is one thing I hated about the post Namek material for back then when you were totally outclassed in battle power you could not follow your opponents movements. Piccolo, Kuririn and Son Gohan made a big deal about Vegeta being able to see Freeza fire his finger beam thingie when they could not. In addition, Piccolo went on and on how Freeza and Kakarrot were in a whole other level and so on. Yet, when that Saga passed everyone could follow most of every individuals moves when the two fighting had a combat strength miles above everyone else’s. People complain about GT diminishing everyone’s power but Z started it post Namek. To me things such as this lessen the significance of someone reaching a new plateau of power.
So you mean that in the end of Cell and Buu saga, noone should have a clue about what happened in the fights?
That wouldn't make for a good story.
There was also no diminishing of battle power. Kuririn was still taken out by a tap from Perfect Cell, and Tenshinhan of a kick from Gotenks Buu.
It's like saying that if Korin could sense FPSSJ Goku's powerlevel, he should be as strong as him.
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Post by TrunksTrevelyan0064 » Fri Jun 05, 2009 7:53 am

I'm expecting Cell to get all 'stoned' (lawlz), then he'll fall to the ground and break in pieces. But, Dabura's wound kills him, allowing Cell to regenerate and claim victory.

I'd love for Dabura to win, but Cell is a 'main villain' and thus will advance.
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Post by Saiyan-Professor » Fri Jun 05, 2009 1:13 pm

Wojak wrote:
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kaioken12 wrote:>>> It is clear that those Saiyans are not on Cell and Dabra’s level, so how can they follow the fight?

Of course they can. Everyone could follow Cell and Goku, everyone could see Nappa... Vegeta could follow Goku vs. Ginyu Force or even Goku SSJ3 vs. Kid Buu...

The thing is that they just can't follow if the people they are watching are MUCH faster than them. But they surely don't have to be on the same level at all ;)
That is one thing I hated about the post Namek material for back then when you were totally outclassed in battle power you could not follow your opponents movements. Piccolo, Kuririn and Son Gohan made a big deal about Vegeta being able to see Freeza fire his finger beam thingie when they could not. In addition, Piccolo went on and on how Freeza and Kakarrot were in a whole other level and so on. Yet, when that Saga passed everyone could follow most of every individuals moves when the two fighting had a combat strength miles above everyone else’s. People complain about GT diminishing everyone’s power but Z started it post Namek. To me things such as this lessen the significance of someone reaching a new plateau of power.
So you mean that in the end of Cell and Buu saga, noone should have a clue about what happened in the fights?
That wouldn't make for a good story.
There was also no diminishing of battle power. Kuririn was still taken out by a tap from Perfect Cell, and Tenshinhan of a kick from Gotenks Buu.
It's like saying that if Karin could sense FPSSJ Goku's powerlevel, he should be as strong as him.
It just takes all the drama and larger than life aspect out of the whole thing. What is the point of getting stronger and according to Vegeta once upon a time dramatic increase of speed if someone as weak as Kuririn can follow your movements? Why make a big deal about it in the past then all of a sudden, it is no big deal. :?
The Saiyans are very much like the Klingons and Jem'Hadar.

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Post by Dayspring » Fri Jun 05, 2009 4:44 pm

Saiyan-Professor wrote:Why does Raditz look like Vegeta in that panel? In addition, I thought when a character’s combat power exceeded others; the ones with the lower power level could not follow their actions or movements. It is clear that those Saiyans are not on Cell and Dabra’s level, so how can they follow the fight?
But that's the point of Raditz and Goku's comments: if the attack was beyond obvious to them, it should have been even more obvious to Dabura.

This makes me wonder if Dabura has healing magics and played possum so as to get close enough to use the stone spit.
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Post by SSJ2bardock » Sun Jun 07, 2009 1:44 pm

Where the fuck is my new page!?

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