DBEvolution Reboot Rumor

JAPPO · Post by **JAPPO** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 5:46 pm

Or, you know, Brian Tyler. There's nothing wrong with his score. And I'm sure he'd love to take part in a DBZ movie.

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 5:47 pm

No "band" music. It was terrible and misfitting with FUNimation's old releases of the Z movies, and it'd be equally so with a live-action movie.

Keep it orchestral. Upbeat for lighthearted scenes, and heavier in more dire situations. It worked for DBE.

JAPPO wrote:Or, you know, Brian Tyler. There's nothing wrong with his score. And I'm sure he'd love to take part in a DBZ movie.

Bring Brian Tyler back? Sure, why not?

Big Boss · Post by **Big Boss** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 5:50 pm

JAPPO wrote:Or, you know, Brian Tyler. There's nothing wrong with his score. And I'm sure he'd love to take part in a DBZ movie.

I don't have a problem with this.

I'd say Tyler's score was the only strong point for the movie.

JAPPO · Post by **JAPPO** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 5:56 pm

An old french blog I used to frequent posted this with the reboot rumor (translated):

However, I can add that according to my sources, if the project is on track, there is still played ... There is still some agreements. But Fox really believes in the potential of the series, and based on the success of various blockbusters more "adult", should support more heavily on the dark side of the saga. One question to ask: why not have done before?

http://dragonballfilm.over-blog.com/art ... 66452.html

They've been down for like 8 months, so again... it's just a rumor.

Taku128 · Post by **Taku128** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:02 pm

JAPPO wrote:However, I can add that according to my sources, if the project is on track, there is still played ... There is still some agreements. But Fox really believes in the potential of the series, and based on the success of various blockbusters more "adult", should support more heavily on the dark side of the saga. One question to ask: why not have done before?

http://dragonballfilm.over-blog.com/art ... 66452.html

They've been down for like 8 months, so again... it's just a rumor.

I sure as hell hope it's just a rumor. Dragon Ball shouldn't be "dark" and "adult". This isn't Watchmen, it's fucking Dragon Ball.

JAPPO · Post by **JAPPO** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:05 pm

If at first you don't succeed, copy The Dark Knight.

Big Boss · Post by **Big Boss** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:07 pm

Taku128 wrote:
JAPPO wrote:However, I can add that according to my sources, if the project is on track, there is still played ... There is still some agreements. But Fox really believes in the potential of the series, and based on the success of various blockbusters more "adult", should support more heavily on the dark side of the saga. One question to ask: why not have done before?

http://dragonballfilm.over-blog.com/art ... 66452.html

They've been down for like 8 months, so again... it's just a rumor.
I sure as hell hope it's just a rumor. Dragon Ball shouldn't be "dark" and "adult". This isn't Watchmen, it's fucking Dragon Ball.

Spiderman? Batman?

Well, you know what I mean.

EDIT: Heh, looks like JAPPO beat me to it.

Saiyan-Professor · Post by **Saiyan-Professor** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:13 pm

Taku128 wrote:
JAPPO wrote:However, I can add that according to my sources, if the project is on track, there is still played ... There is still some agreements. But Fox really believes in the potential of the series, and based on the success of various blockbusters more "adult", should support more heavily on the dark side of the saga. One question to ask: why not have done before?

http://dragonballfilm.over-blog.com/art ... 66452.html

They've been down for like 8 months, so again... it's just a rumor.
I sure as hell hope it's just a rumor. Dragon Ball shouldn't be "dark" and "adult". This isn't Watchmen, it's fucking Dragon Ball.

Now I would love a darker Dragonball, no resemblances to One Piece type stuff at all.

Taku128 · Post by **Taku128** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:13 pm

Big Boss wrote:
Taku128 wrote:
JAPPO wrote:However, I can add that according to my sources, if the project is on track, there is still played ... There is still some agreements. But Fox really believes in the potential of the series, and based on the success of various blockbusters more "adult", should support more heavily on the dark side of the saga. One question to ask: why not have done before?

http://dragonballfilm.over-blog.com/art ... 66452.html

They've been down for like 8 months, so again... it's just a rumor.
I sure as hell hope it's just a rumor. Dragon Ball shouldn't be "dark" and "adult". This isn't Watchmen, it's fucking Dragon Ball.
Spiderman? Batman?

Well, you know what I mean.

Spider-Man wasn't dark or adult. It had emotional moments, but most of it wasn't super gritty or mature or anything. And the recent Batman movies have pretty much no happy or light hearted moments in them. That works for Batman, that doesn't work for Dragon Ball.

Sanjiscool · Post by **Sanjiscool** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:14 pm

JAPPO wrote:If at first you don't succeed, copy The Dark Knight.

That's an appropiate way of looking at movie adaptations these days. Now matter how "badass" Dragon Ball might get, it's still a show for kids as well.

Taku128 · Post by **Taku128** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:16 pm

Saiyan-Professor wrote:
Taku128 wrote:
JAPPO wrote:However, I can add that according to my sources, if the project is on track, there is still played ... There is still some agreements. But Fox really believes in the potential of the series, and based on the success of various blockbusters more "adult", should support more heavily on the dark side of the saga. One question to ask: why not have done before?

http://dragonballfilm.over-blog.com/art ... 66452.html

They've been down for like 8 months, so again... it's just a rumor.
I sure as hell hope it's just a rumor. Dragon Ball shouldn't be "dark" and "adult". This isn't Watchmen, it's fucking Dragon Ball.
Now I would love a darker Dragonball, no resemblances to One Piece type stuff at all.

So you don't want Dragon Ball? Why do you want a Dragon Ball movie if you don't want it to be like Dragon Ball? You might as well just go watch some movie that actually fits that description.

Saiyan-Professor · Post by **Saiyan-Professor** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:16 pm

Taku128 wrote:
Big Boss wrote:
Taku128 wrote:I sure as hell hope it's just a rumor. Dragon Ball shouldn't be "dark" and "adult". This isn't Watchmen, it's fucking Dragon Ball.
Spiderman? Batman?

Well, you know what I mean.
Spider-Man wasn't dark or adult. It had emotional moments, but most of it wasn't super gritty or mature or anything. And the recent Batman movies have pretty much no happy or light hearted moments in them. That works for Batman, that doesn't work for Dragon Ball.

I think it is in reference to the so-called “emo” moments and the ending in part 3, perhaps maybe Uncle Ben dying scene etc. in part one.

Taku128 wrote:...So you don't want Dragon Ball? Why do you want a Dragon Ball movie if you don't want it to be like Dragon Ball? You might as well just go watch some movie that actually fits that description.

I want Dragonball but just minus the silly stuff and no one running around smiling all the time as if they have a caffeine enema every morning. It gets old when you have an idiotic main character after a while.

Taku128 · Post by **Taku128** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:20 pm

Saiyan-Professor wrote:
Taku128 wrote:
Big Boss wrote: Spiderman? Batman?

Well, you know what I mean.
Spider-Man wasn't dark or adult. It had emotional moments, but most of it wasn't super gritty or mature or anything. And the recent Batman movies have pretty much no happy or light hearted moments in them. That works for Batman, that doesn't work for Dragon Ball.

I think it is in reference to the so-called “emo” moments and the ending in part 3, perhaps maybe Uncle Ben dying scene etc. in part one.

The Uncle Ben scene was one of the emotional moments I was referring to, along with a couple other scenes in the first two movies. Having emotional moments doesn't make it adult or dark though. Tons of kids movies or TV shows have characters die. Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z have moments like that. Hell, Evolution even had that when Grandpa Gohan died. (Or atleast had an attempt at being emotional.)

As for Spider-Man 3... Do I really have to say anything about it?

Victator Supreme · Post by **Victator Supreme** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:20 pm

Hey, I thought Linkin Park's stuff was appropriate for Transformers. We need something that is lively and befit the action and emotion on the screen. When I looking at Vegeta kicking ass I do not want to hear ‘lets take a voyage on a pirate ship’ or ‘lets go steal a pic-a-nic basket’ music in the background.

Yeah use some current dreck that will be dated in a week. Rather than a score that will be timeless. People wonder why most adaptations blow.

I want Dragonball but just minus the silly stuff and no one running around smiling all the time as if they have a caffeine enema every morning. It gets old when you have an idiotic main character after a while.

You like the show you just want it to be completely different. God you make me hate Vegeta and he is one of my favorite characters.

Big Boss · Post by **Big Boss** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:22 pm

Taku128 wrote:
Big Boss wrote:
Taku128 wrote:I sure as hell hope it's just a rumor. Dragon Ball shouldn't be "dark" and "adult". This isn't Watchmen, it's fucking Dragon Ball.
Spiderman? Batman?

Well, you know what I mean.
Spider-Man wasn't dark or adult. It had emotional moments, but most of it wasn't super gritty or mature or anything. And the recent Batman movies have pretty much no happy or light hearted moments in them. That works for Batman, that doesn't work for Dragon Ball.

What I mean is, those movies were darker than their original comics. I don't care how you look at it. Not adult, but they were darker. Why is it all right to make those comic movie adaptions darker, even though they were made for an all age audience ( including kids ), and not DB?

Taku128 · Post by **Taku128** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:24 pm

Saiyan-Professor wrote:
Taku128 wrote:...So you don't want Dragon Ball? Why do you want a Dragon Ball movie if you don't want it to be like Dragon Ball? You might as well just go watch some movie that actually fits that description.

I want Dragonball but just minus the silly stuff and no one running around smiling all the time as if they have a caffeine enema every morning. It gets old when you have an idiotic main character after a while.

Characters only "run around smiling all the time" when there's no reason not to be smiling. When someone is in trouble or the bad guy just killed one of the good guys, the only person smiling is the villain.

Victator Supreme · Post by **Victator Supreme** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:24 pm

Big Boss wrote:
Taku128 wrote:
Big Boss wrote: Spiderman? Batman?

Well, you know what I mean.
Spider-Man wasn't dark or adult. It had emotional moments, but most of it wasn't super gritty or mature or anything. And the recent Batman movies have pretty much no happy or light hearted moments in them. That works for Batman, that doesn't work for Dragon Ball.
What I mean is, those movies were darker than their original comics. I don't care how you look at it. Not adult, but they were darker. Why is it all right to make those comic movie adaptions darker, even though they were made for kids, and not DB?

The answer is its not.

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:29 pm

Because DragonBall IS a goofy series made primarily for pre-teen boys. Its creator had just come off of writing a series full of comical hyperbole and poop jokes. It's his style, and despite the serious turns it took at some points, DragonBall reflected this, and was largely lighthearted and adventurous, even within the more grim and serious parts of the story. It's "shonen." It's not something super dark, mature, and gritty.

That's all there is to it. The heart of the series, this basic nature, is non-negotiable. If you want a manga/anime that is like that, then go read Gantz or something, instead of trying to bend DragonBall into something it's not.

Big Boss · Post by **Big Boss** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:34 pm

SSj Kaboom wrote:Because DragonBall IS a goofy series made primarily for pre-teen boys. Its creator had just come off of writing a series full of comical hyperbole and poop jokes. It's his style, and despite the serious turns it took at some points, DragonBall reflected this, and was largely lighthearted and adventurous. It's "shonen." It's not something super dark, mature, and gritty.

That's all there is to it. The heart of the series, this basic nature, is non-negotiable. If you want a manga/anime that is like that, then go read Gantz or something.

Nobody said it had to be "super dark" or "mature", just make it a pinch "darker", a bit of a twist to accommodate the majority of DB fans who are now in their late-teens, early adult years. It can still keep the heart of the series. Hell, Dragon Ball Z was "darker" than Dragon Ball, and that still kept the heart of the earlier series.

Anyway, even if this rumor were real, what would make Fox just randomly say they fucked up with Evolution, and were rebooting the movie? Since when has Fox cared that one of their movies has failed?

Pain · Post by **Pain** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 7:17 pm

I'm all for a reboot, I just don't want Wong, Chatwin, Park, Tamura, or Fat to be involved.

1. Wong is just a shitty director .

2. Chatwin's acting was laughable.

3. Park isn't like Yamcha, at all.

4. Tamura was just a brainless grunt.

5. Fat was good, but he isn't cut out for this role.

6. I liked Rossum...I think she should stay for the sequel.

7. Marsters...he looks like Daimao even without the make-up. I believe that in the reboot, if he's still cast, he should get a better make-up job, or maybe he should get some CGI on it?

I really don't want any shitty stunts to be in the reboot. I really hated all of the wire-stunts, in Evolution.