DBEvolution Reboot Rumor

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 7:17 pm

Saiyan-Professor wrote:It has done well enough to warrant this 8-page thread, which most likely will become longer if Mike does not lock it at some point.

Actually, it's done horribly enough that we've been complaining about it, suggesting how it could be better, and arguing with you for eight pages.

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 7:19 pm

DragonBall is what it is, and being so is what makes it great. Fans can like certain aspects of it more than others, that's entirely their prerogative. But it is not up to them to demand the series or adaptations of it be twisted or altered to their will.

The best adaptation of anything like this is one that retains the same style, tone, and message as the original material, even if not all the little details. DragonBall Evolution didn't do a very good job of this. Hopefully this reboot will do so, provided it happens.

Saiyan-Professor · Post by **Saiyan-Professor** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 7:24 pm

Kendamu wrote:
Saiyan-Professor wrote:It has done well enough to warrant this 8-page thread, which most likely will become longer if Mike does not lock it at some point.
Actually, it's done horribly enough that we've been complaining about it, suggesting how it could be better, and arguing with you for eight pages.

My question is why is everyone arguing with me? I do not work at Fox nor I am writing the script.

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 7:26 pm

SSj Kaboom wrote:DragonBall is what it is, and being so is what makes it great. Fans can like certain aspects of it more than others, that's entirely their prerogative. But it is not up to them to demand the series or adaptations of it be twisted or altered to their will.

The best adaptation of anything like this is one that retains the same style, tone, and message as the original material, even if not all the little details. DragonBall Evolution didn't do a very good job of this. Hopefully this reboot will do so, provided it happens.

This x1000. As I said in another thread, I'd be perfectly fine if it were just a feature-length live-action version of Path To Power except with King Piccolo as the villain instead of The Red Ribbon Army.

XanatosVanBadass · Post by **XanatosVanBadass** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 7:27 pm

Saiyan-Professor wrote:My question is why is everyone arguing with me? I do not work at Fox nor I am writing the script.

Same reason you're arguing. Don't make yourself out to be so innocent.

Saiyan-Professor · Post by **Saiyan-Professor** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 7:31 pm

XanatosVanBadass wrote:
Saiyan-Professor wrote:My question is why is everyone arguing with me? I do not work at Fox nor I am writing the script.
Same reason you're arguing. Don't make yourself out to be so innocent.

All I am doing is stating my opinion and then everyone acts as if I am making the movie. You know what I am done, the “real Dragonball fans” won; I am wrong for having an opinion. Fox is evil and we need a movie that is the spitting image of the manga right down to the smallest detail.

Dr. Casey · Post by **Dr. Casey** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 7:32 pm

Saiyan-Professor wrote:In other words, the people that attacks me constantly just about ever since I became a member of this forum.

Damn, I hope this jaded attitude isn't a prelude to Professor up and leaving the forums sometime. I disagree with him on pretty much everything ever, but I'd be sad to see him leave.

I wonder if that Chinese movie is subbed yet.

Best Dragon Ball movie ever imo.

As for the Dragon Ball Evolution sequel... well, the BulmaYamcha stuff should be fun, at least. The original's romance between them was fun in a very campy way (Which I guess is also true of the original series, though the actual Dragon Ball also had both high school and 80s vibes thrown in).

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 7:38 pm

Saiyan-Professor wrote:
Kendamu wrote:
Saiyan-Professor wrote:It has done well enough to warrant this 8-page thread, which most likely will become longer if Mike does not lock it at some point.
Actually, it's done horribly enough that we've been complaining about it, suggesting how it could be better, and arguing with you for eight pages.
My question is why is everyone arguing with me? I do not work at Fox nor I am writing the script.

It's because everyone disagrees with you. We're not out to get you or anything. In the long run of the conversation, whatever disagreement I have with you here stays in this thread. I'm not gonna go hunt you down in other threads and act like a dick toward you. I'm pretty sure it's the same with most people who have disagreed with you and have argued with you in this thread.

The hard truth is that, at least on this forum, you're the minority opinion and people are gonna argue their points against yours.

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 7:40 pm

Saiyan-Professor wrote:
XanatosVanBadass wrote:
Saiyan-Professor wrote:My question is why is everyone arguing with me? I do not work at Fox nor I am writing the script.
Same reason you're arguing. Don't make yourself out to be so innocent.
All I am doing is stating my opinion and then everyone acts as if I am making the movie. You know what I am done, the “real Dragonball fans” won; I am wrong for having an opinion. Fox is evil and we need a movie that is the spitting image of the manga right down to the smallest detail.

Oh God, you're like a brick wall. When have we ever said that it needs to exactly be like the manga? Most of have said that we have no problem wich changing a few story elements, but what Fox did was just completely change DB's tone and image for the movie, and altered important concepts instead of just minor ones.

Raki · Post by **Raki** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 7:43 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:
Saiyan-Professor wrote:
XanatosVanBadass wrote: Same reason you're arguing. Don't make yourself out to be so innocent.
All I am doing is stating my opinion and then everyone acts as if I am making the movie. You know what I am done, the “real Dragonball fans” won; I am wrong for having an opinion. Fox is evil and we need a movie that is the spitting image of the manga right down to the smallest detail.
Oh God, you're like a brick wall. When have we ever said that it needs to exactly be like the manga? Most of have said that we have no problem wich changing a few story elements, but what Fox did was just completely change DB's tone and image for the movie, and altered important concepts instead of just minor ones.

Indeed. Fans of the original Japanese, Funi Dub,and just about every other group could agree that the movie didn't represent Dragonball at all. If that doesn't speak volumes I don't know what does.

Olivier Hague · Post by **Olivier Hague** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 7:43 pm

Saiyan-Professor wrote:All I am doing is stating my opinion

And when you explain this:

I love the old stuff but I also like much of the new anime and manga that approaches real life situations and problems even though its fiction.

... I completely disagree with you, and I explain why: "real life situations and problems" and Dragon Ball? I'm not sure I ever saw those two together in the same room. Or the same country. Ever.
This is not me saying "hey, I don't want to watch a movie that deals with real life situations". This is just me saying "mixing two things that have so very little in common sounds like a great recipe for disaster".
Do you at least see where I'm coming from, here?

And like I said in my previous post, considering how you put things, you shouldn't be surprised at some of the reactions you get.

and then everyone acts as if I am making the movie.

... Whuh?

You know what I am done, the “real Dragonball fans” won; I am wrong for having an opinion. Fox is evil and we need a movie that is the spitting image of the manga right down to the smallest detail.

Here we go again...

Big Momma · Post by **Big Momma** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 8:08 pm

Dr. Casey wrote: I wonder if that Chinese movie is subbed yet.

Korean

But I do agree, I would love to see it too.

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 8:17 pm

Raki wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:
Saiyan-Professor wrote: All I am doing is stating my opinion and then everyone acts as if I am making the movie. You know what I am done, the “real Dragonball fans” won; I am wrong for having an opinion. Fox is evil and we need a movie that is the spitting image of the manga right down to the smallest detail.
Oh God, you're like a brick wall. When have we ever said that it needs to exactly be like the manga? Most of have said that we have no problem wich changing a few story elements, but what Fox did was just completely change DB's tone and image for the movie, and altered important concepts instead of just minor ones.
Indeed. Fans of the original Japanese, Funi Dub,and just about every other group could agree that the movie didn't represent Dragonball at all. If that doesn't speak volumes I don't know what does.

Hell, I bet that even fans of the Portuguese dub thought it was a bastardization.

rereboy · Post by **rereboy** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 8:44 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:Hell, I bet that even fans of the Portuguese dub thought it was a bastardization.

I only saw the trailers and a few scenes that were leaked into the web. And that made not want to watch the movie

Kunzait_83 · Post by **Kunzait_83** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 11:33 pm

rereboy wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:Hell, I bet that even fans of the Portuguese dub thought it was a bastardization.
I only saw the trailers and a few scenes that were leaked into the web. And that made not want to watch the movie

*Looks at rereboy's location*

Yeah, now THAT'S funny.

Hero 004 · Post by **Hero 004** » Sun Jun 21, 2009 2:11 am

Man I really hope this rumor is true. I'd love for them to try again and produce something reminiscent of Dragon Ball. Shoot I'll send in scripts for a trilogy if they want me to, I've always had a vision for it. I seriously think that with it's huge well of story, Dragon Ball or Z could shine cinematically if someone puts a lot of care into it and stays true this time around.
The Dragon Ball franchise is so diverse that it makes not sense to not stick to the source material, but I think that's no secret at all to the producers of Evolution. I hope they're realizing their mistakes with that one.

Bura · Post by **Bura** » Sun Jun 21, 2009 7:01 pm

I figured this was pretty funny to share... on one of the Japanese Blu-ray covers Justin Chatwin is almost going SSJ!!

I wonder if this is the Japanese version of the so-called Z-edition?

Here's the site listing the cover:
click

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Sun Jun 21, 2009 7:15 pm

Bura wrote:I figured this was pretty funny to share... on one of the Japanese Blu-ray covers Justin Chatwin is almost going SSJ!!

I wonder if this is the Japanese version of the so-called Z-edition?
Here's the site listing the cover:
click

If only the movie really was that colorful...

Chuquita · Post by **Chuquita** » Sun Jun 21, 2009 7:37 pm

That blu-ray cover...it feels like false advertising.

The ol' "bait-n-switch".

Tenshinhan-san · Post by **Tenshinhan-san** » Sun Jun 21, 2009 7:39 pm

Lol, why not use an actual screenshot from the anime while they're at it!