Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Dayspring · Post by **Dayspring** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 12:46 pm

Saiyan-Professor wrote: See that is the problem why does Bojack have to try against Pan of all people, yeah she is from alternate universe but it is still Pan. The type of stink on her will never come off even if they scrap GT and make another series written by Toriyama in the manner that everyone claims they wanted.

No she isn't. As you point out, it's an alternate universe. This is neither manga nor GT Pan. At the time of the 28th Budokai, this Pan was stronger than the Pan we saw in the manga. Tack on another 10 years training with Vegetto instead of less than 5 years by herself.

Also, why do you keep saying Bojack is trying? He's very clearly not. At all. And that's in his first form. If anything, I'd say they played down Pan's strength, but then again, this isn't our Bojack either.

ultimateemail5000 · Post by **ultimateemail5000** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 3:47 am

I would have rather seen this concept as a series rather than GT. I admit when I first read this thread when it started up, didn't think the comic would last long. Glad I was wrong, I actually read the whole thing yesterday. This is as good as Toriyama's story telling IMO. Keep up the work, I hope to read more.

Ghost of Vegeta · Post by **Ghost of Vegeta** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 4:42 am

ultimateemail5000 wrote:This is as good as Toriyama's story telling IMO.

Not to sound too overly negative but... there's about as much storytelling in DBM as there is in a series of "tournament mode" video game fights. Not that anyone reads it for "story," of course. The fights themselves range from awesome (Nail vs Recoome), overly drawn out (Cell vs Dabra), and extremely one-sided (all the others)... exactly like DB(Z) itself. I actually like the fact that Broly can fight evenly with Vegetto and that Vegetto-verse Pan can at least hold her own against Bojack. Makes for more entertaining fights, or at least more entertaining than they would be if they had to adhere to "A obviously could never be a match for B because C said so". Since it's obvious DBM doesn't exist for "story" or "plot" could we just leave the canon at the door and enjoy the senseless pummeling?

I like the what if scenarios, myself. I think at least one of the universes should have had the humans. They were grossly overlooked in Z and even moreso in GT. I know the humans are "weak" and all, but they've gotta be at least stronger than Primitive King Vegeta or those sex appeal characters. Maybe a universe where they learned Kaio-Ken? It's as plausible as some of the other AU setups... I also think that, despite what problems GT overall has as a series, that it could also have been an AU. Sure, the story itself was horrible and the main villains weren't too great, but the side villains (Ledgic, Rilld, among others) were pretty neat on their own.

Victator Supreme wrote:Looking forward to seeing the Omega Namek* (the giant thats a fusion of every namek in the universe.) fight. Nobody short of Vegetto should be able to stop him.

I'm gonna call him Big Green.

I wonder - since he's the only Namek in his universe, then does that mean he had to create the Namek Dragonballs for that universe? Assuming he's a warrior type, does he even have that ability? Does his universe even have Namek Dragonballs, or is there at least one dragon type Namek in that universe keeping watch over them?

Dayspring · Post by **Dayspring** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 10:05 am

ultimateemail5000 wrote:I would have rather seen this concept as a series rather than GT. I admit when I first read this thread when it started up, didn't think the comic would last long. Glad I was wrong, I actually read the whole thing yesterday. This is as good as Toriyama's story telling IMO. Keep up the work, I hope to read more.

I think I would have prefered this over the Blackstar DB saga as the beginning of GT.

JulieYBM · Post by **JulieYBM** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 1:57 pm

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TrunksTrevelyan0064 · Post by **TrunksTrevelyan0064** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 2:40 pm

Hmm, Bojack doesn't necessarily look like he's transformed yet. His bandanna's been burnt off, but that's it.

Maybe he'll transform on the next page. Either way, Pan's about to get hurt. Unless of course, Gohan steps in.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 3:06 pm

I just realized this means SSJ Pan is superior to two-times-in-the-Time-Chamber Vegeta, one-time-in-the-HTC Kamiccolo, two-times-in-HTC Trunks, and probably over-powered-post-time-chamber Gohan.

*spits*

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 3:19 pm

Rocketman wrote:I just realized this means SSJ Pan is superior to two-times-in-the-Time-Chamber Vegeta, one-time-in-the-HTC Kamiccolo, two-times-in-HTC Trunks, and probably over-powered-post-time-chamber Gohan.

*spits*

It's the "constant exposure to Vegetto" effect, I suppose.

Saiyan-Professor · Post by **Saiyan-Professor** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 3:20 pm

Yaay the massacre is about to begin.

Rocketman wrote:I just realized this means SSJ Pan is superior to two-times-in-the-Time-Chamber Vegeta, one-time-in-the-HTC Kamiccolo, two-times-in-HTC Trunks, and probably over-powered-post-time-chamber Gohan.

*spits*

Yep and that is just silly…

JulieYBM · Post by **JulieYBM** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 3:24 pm

Dragonball's a silly comic.

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Senzu_Bean · Post by **Senzu_Bean** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 3:37 pm

Where are the other two Bojack's henchmen?

Supa Saiya-Jin Tullece · Post by **Supa Saiya-Jin Tullece** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 3:45 pm

SSj Kaboom wrote:
Rocketman wrote:I just realized this means SSJ Pan is superior to two-times-in-the-Time-Chamber Vegeta, one-time-in-the-HTC Kamiccolo, two-times-in-HTC Trunks, and probably over-powered-post-time-chamber Gohan.

*spits*
It's the "constant exposure to Vegetto" effect, I suppose.

I wonder if by the end of the comic's run if we'll have created some sort of diagram that explains how that works.

Also, 500th post.

KaiserNeko · Post by **KaiserNeko** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 4:11 pm

Rocketman wrote:I just realized this means SSJ Pan is superior to two-times-in-the-Time-Chamber Vegeta, one-time-in-the-HTC Kamiccolo, two-times-in-HTC Trunks, and probably over-powered-post-time-chamber Gohan.

*spits*

Yes, because she, as a Super Saiyan, used a Kamehameha directly to the back of his head, with enough energy to apparently wind her, to knock over and slightly damage Bojack.

Yep. Definitely makes her stronger than all of them. Totally.

Senzu_Bean · Post by **Senzu_Bean** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 4:28 pm

I can see this Pan with fully mastery Super Saiyan form, something none but Gohan had by the time they fought Bojack.

The Tori-bot · Post by **The Tori-bot** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 4:43 pm

KaiserNeko wrote:
Rocketman wrote:I just realized this means SSJ Pan is superior to two-times-in-the-Time-Chamber Vegeta, one-time-in-the-HTC Kamiccolo, two-times-in-HTC Trunks, and probably over-powered-post-time-chamber Gohan.

*spits*
Yes, because she, as a Super Saiyan, used a Kamehameha directly to the back of his head, with enough energy to apparently wind her, to knock over and slightly damage Bojack.

Yep. Definitely makes her stronger than all of them. Totally.

I love you.

Victator Supreme · Post by **Victator Supreme** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 4:50 pm

Rocketman wrote:I just realized this means SSJ Pan is superior to two-times-in-the-Time-Chamber Vegeta, one-time-in-the-HTC Kamiccolo, two-times-in-HTC Trunks, and probably over-powered-post-time-chamber Gohan.

*spits*

I just watched the Bojak movie unfortunately. But in it Vegeta, Trunks and Piccolo were able to get about the same amounts of offense against Bojak initially.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 4:54 pm

KaiserNeko wrote:Yes, because she, as a Super Saiyan, used a Kamehameha directly to the back of his head, with enough energy to apparently wind her, to knock over and slightly damage Bojack.

Yep. Definitely makes her stronger than all of them. Totally.

Given that Vegeta's showing versus Bojack was "Hi! *gets broken in half*", yes.

KaiserNeko · Post by **KaiserNeko** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 5:45 pm

Rocketman wrote:
KaiserNeko wrote:Yes, because she, as a Super Saiyan, used a Kamehameha directly to the back of his head, with enough energy to apparently wind her, to knock over and slightly damage Bojack.

Yep. Definitely makes her stronger than all of them. Totally.
Given that Vegeta's showing versus Bojack was "Hi! *gets broken in half*", yes.

Couldn't have anything to do with underestimating his opponent, considering her being a little girl... ?

Dayspring · Post by **Dayspring** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 6:53 pm

KaiserNeko wrote:
Rocketman wrote:
KaiserNeko wrote:Yes, because she, as a Super Saiyan, used a Kamehameha directly to the back of his head, with enough energy to apparently wind her, to knock over and slightly damage Bojack.

Yep. Definitely makes her stronger than all of them. Totally.
Given that Vegeta's showing versus Bojack was "Hi! *gets broken in half*", yes.
Couldn't have anything to do with underestimating his opponent, considering her being a little girl... ?

Added to that, this SSJ Pan trained over 10 years with Vegetto, while this Bojack spent 27 years not being dead.

Translation notes:
1) "That's great, Pan" should read "Bravo, Pan." I'm guessing they thought Bravo wasn't an English word, too.
2) Zangya actually says "The little one's going to know of Bojack's fury!..."

Bussani · Post by **Bussani** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 11:00 pm

Saiyan-Professor wrote:Yaay the massacre is about to begin.

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