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Post by Presc503 » Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:00 pm

As I mentioned this to another user on the site, the Dragon Box intros also provide us with karaoke intros. Although miniscule, it's pretty sweet.

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Post by Big Boss » Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:00 pm

SonGokuGT wrote:
Kendamu wrote:
DragonBalllKaiHD wrote: Yes but there is no reason why Funimation shouldn't include English dub specially for us to purchase DBOX, would it?
The disc space could go toward making the best encoding possible for the Japanese version with subs.
I vote for this as well! Besides, FUNi said this was not for the "casual" fan.
I never knew being a dub fan was being a casual fan.

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Post by RoarkVegeta » Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:01 pm

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RoarkVegeta wrote:As much as I am excited for this... Cmon. This is the 83409830489th time DBZ 01 has been released. History lesson!

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Not as much as the Dead Zone. They're releasing the movies too.
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Post by Presc503 » Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:01 pm

Big Boss wrote:
SonGokuGT wrote:
Kendamu wrote: The disc space could go toward making the best encoding possible for the Japanese version with subs.
I vote for this as well! Besides, FUNi said this was not for the "casual" fan.
I never knew being a dub fan was being a casual fan.
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Post by Daimo-Rukiri » Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:03 pm

SonGokuGT wrote:
Kendamu wrote:
DragonBalllKaiHD wrote: Yes but there is no reason why Funimation shouldn't include English dub specially for us to purchase DBOX, would it?
The disc space could go toward making the best encoding possible for the Japanese version with subs.
I vote for this as well! Besides, FUNi said this was not for the "casual" fan. I don't care, I'd prefer the English dub with Japanese BGM to be on there but only if ti doesn't make the video quality suffer. I want these to be clones of the Japanese releases!
Keep it as IS, don't fuck it up. You said you didn't touch a thing so keep to your word! Just add subs and leave it alone!!!

Was referring to FUNimation. Any idea when this will go pre-order? Cause My debit card wants to give away some info right now.

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Post by jjgp1112 » Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:04 pm

Presc503 wrote:
Big Boss wrote:
SonGokuGT wrote: I vote for this as well! Besides, FUNi said this was not for the "casual" fan.
I never knew being a dub fan was being a casual fan.
Oh you didn't know? Well, your ass better call somebody!!!!
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But seriously, how does liking the dub =/= hardcore?
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Post by DBW » Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:04 pm

DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:
Kendamu wrote:
DragonBalllKaiHD wrote: Yes but there is no reason why Funimation shouldn't include English dub specially for us to purchase DBOX, would it?
The disc space could go toward making the best encoding possible for the Japanese version with subs.
I can see what you are saying but I have seen every American movies included with foreign languages and they still have good encoding.
Except that they're already packing the disks tighter than the original Dragon Box version, by one whole episode and at least one extra audio track that we know of. I'm not saying it's impossible to fit more audio tracks, but you do eventually get to a point where you are making sacrifices.

(Plus, most DVD movies have shit encoding.)
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Post by DragonBalllKaiHD » Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:05 pm

Daimo-Rukiri wrote:
SonGokuGT wrote:
Kendamu wrote: The disc space could go toward making the best encoding possible for the Japanese version with subs.
I vote for this as well! Besides, FUNi said this was not for the "casual" fan. I don't care, I'd prefer the English dub with Japanese BGM to be on there but only if ti doesn't make the video quality suffer. I want these to be clones of the Japanese releases!
Keep it as IS, don't fuck it up. You said you didn't touch a thing so keep to your word! Just add subs and leave it alone!!!

Was referring to FUNimation. Any idea when this will go pre-order? Cause My debit card wants to give away some info right now.
So adding extras will ruin the Dragon Box quality? i didn't know that... :roll: Just be quiet and let us have English dub.
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Post by Travis Touchdown » Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:05 pm

snaku wrote:It's finally sunk in. Orange brick buyers got fleeced. :lol:
Yeah, I kind of feel that way.
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And here, after I sold out and bought the damn Orange Bricks thinking this was it. And it looks like my theory was correct.

*sigh*

Here, Funimation. Just...just take my damn wallet AGAIN. :cry:
Y'know, I just sold out too. I was completely against buying the Orange Bricks because I own the whole English manga. I figured I didn't NEED the Orange Bricks and that I was happy with my manga, Steelbooks, & GT Bricks. Then I cracked when I heard of Dragon Ball Season 1. Today, I just bought the last 3 Orange Bricks I needed and decided to check good ol' Daizex to see what I've missed for a week.

"LOL Now that you've bought the DBZ Season Sets, here comes DBZ Dragon Boxes! LMAO" I mean that's good news but... Damn it. :evil:
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Post by Daimo-Rukiri » Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:05 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:
Presc503 wrote:
Big Boss wrote: I never knew being a dub fan was being a casual fan.
Oh you didn't know? Well, your ass better call somebody!!!!
Ladies & Gentlemen, Boys & Girls, Children of all ages, the World Wrestling Federation would like to present to it's TAG TEAM CHAMPIONS OF THE WOOOOOORLD...

:lol:

But seriously, how does liking the dub =/= hardcore?
Japanese version wins everytime. The dub is for the clowns.

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Post by jjgp1112 » Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:05 pm

Daimo-Rukiri wrote:
Keep it as IS, don't fuck it up. You said you didn't touch a thing so keep to your word! Just add subs and leave it alone!!!

Was referring to FUNimation. Any idea when this will go pre-order? Cause My debit card wants to give away some info right now.
Wait a minute, how does adding a dub=changing it? Adding subtitles is too, with your logic. They're not doing anything to the film masters, are they?
Daimo-Rukiri wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:Ladies & Gentlemen, Boys & Girls, Children of all ages, the World Wrestling Federation would like to present to it's TAG TEAM CHAMPIONS OF THE WOOOOOORLD...

:lol:

But seriously, how does liking the dub =/= hardcore?
Japanese version wins everytime. The dub is for the clowns.
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Post by Krycek7o2 » Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:06 pm

DBW wrote:
DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:
Kendamu wrote: The disc space could go toward making the best encoding possible for the Japanese version with subs.
I can see what you are saying but I have seen every American movies included with foreign languages and they still have good encoding.
Except that they're already packing the disks tighter than the original Dragon Box version, by one whole episode and at least one extra audio track that we know of. I'm not saying it's impossible to fit more audio tracks, but you do eventually get to a point where you are making sacrifices.

(Plus, most DVD movies have shit encoding.)
With Blu ray on the other hand... Hey, I can wish!

But yeah, I have experience with adding subtitles to the Dragon Box and the discs had about 200-300 megs free.

jjgp1112 wrote:
Daimo-Rukiri wrote:
Keep it as IS, don't fuck it up. You said you didn't touch a thing so keep to your word! Just add subs and leave it alone!!!

Was referring to FUNimation. Any idea when this will go pre-order? Cause My debit card wants to give away some info right now.
Wait a minute, how does adding a dub=changing it? Adding subtitles is too, with your logic. They're not doing anything to the film masters, are they?
I think he meant the Bit rate problems some of us are worried about.
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Post by Daimo-Rukiri » Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:07 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:
Daimo-Rukiri wrote:
Keep it as IS, don't fuck it up. You said you didn't touch a thing so keep to your word! Just add subs and leave it alone!!!

Was referring to FUNimation. Any idea when this will go pre-order? Cause My debit card wants to give away some info right now.
Wait a minute, how does adding a dub=changing it? Adding subtitles is too, with your logic. They're not doing anything to the film masters, are they?
Subtitles will cost nothing to the film master, but adding 0.5GB of audio just for one language is going to kill it. A Dbox episodes is 2GB! 2.5GB can kill the picture.

There should be no transfer problems as we are NTSC!

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Post by Presc503 » Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:07 pm

Daimo-Rukiri wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:
Presc503 wrote: Oh you didn't know? Well, your ass better call somebody!!!!
Ladies & Gentlemen, Boys & Girls, Children of all ages, the World Wrestling Federation would like to present to it's TAG TEAM CHAMPIONS OF THE WOOOOOORLD...

:lol:

But seriously, how does liking the dub =/= hardcore?
Japanese version wins everytime. The dub is for the clowns.
That's opening up an economy-size can of worms.

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Post by mattymoron » Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:07 pm

I really don't see the need for Falcouner's track on the Dbox. I mean, they aren't discontinuing the bricks anytime soon, so just buy those if you really need the music...

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Post by Super Sonic » Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:07 pm

I don't think people got fleeced. Just company's making more money by re-releasing. Remember how many releases EVA got? Didn't hear complaints about that.

Got to say, don't think will pic this up, because I like the English language and got a lot of the series anyway via older dvds, vhs, etc. Not into duplicates, hence why YYH, only got the 2-discs of certain Dark Tournament eps.

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Post by RoarkVegeta » Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:08 pm

DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:
Daimo-Rukiri wrote:
SonGokuGT wrote: I vote for this as well! Besides, FUNi said this was not for the "casual" fan. I don't care, I'd prefer the English dub with Japanese BGM to be on there but only if ti doesn't make the video quality suffer. I want these to be clones of the Japanese releases!
Keep it as IS, don't fuck it up. You said you didn't touch a thing so keep to your word! Just add subs and leave it alone!!!

Was referring to FUNimation. Any idea when this will go pre-order? Cause My debit card wants to give away some info right now.
So adding extras will ruin the Dragon Box quality? i didn't know that... :roll: Just be quiet and let us have English dub.
Again, thinking your ignorance towards him refers to the message you sent me. ;) That's all I'm saying..

Wonder when the Amazon link will be up! And also, I'm selling some stuff for this, so PM me for details!

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Post by jjgp1112 » Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:08 pm

Daimo-Rukiri wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:
Daimo-Rukiri wrote:
Keep it as IS, don't fuck it up. You said you didn't touch a thing so keep to your word! Just add subs and leave it alone!!!

Was referring to FUNimation. Any idea when this will go pre-order? Cause My debit card wants to give away some info right now.
Wait a minute, how does adding a dub=changing it? Adding subtitles is too, with your logic. They're not doing anything to the film masters, are they?
Subtitles will cost nothing to the film master, but adding 0.5GB of audio just for one language is going to kill it. A Dbox episodes is 2GB! 2.5GB can kill the picture.

There should be no transfer problems as we are NTSC!
I'm pretty sure when they said "we're not changing a damn thing" they meant the film masters.
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Post by Raki » Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:09 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:
Presc503 wrote:
Oh you didn't know? Well, your ass better call somebody!!!!
Ladies & Gentlemen, Boys & Girls, Children of all ages, the World Wrestling Federation would like to present to it's TAG TEAM CHAMPIONS OF THE WOOOOOORLD...

:lol:

But seriously, how does liking the dub =/= hardcore?
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Post by Daimo-Rukiri » Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:09 pm

Presc503 wrote:
Daimo-Rukiri wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:Ladies & Gentlemen, Boys & Girls, Children of all ages, the World Wrestling Federation would like to present to it's TAG TEAM CHAMPIONS OF THE WOOOOOORLD...

:lol:

But seriously, how does liking the dub =/= hardcore?
Japanese version wins everytime. The dub is for the clowns.
That's opening up an economy-size can of worms.
Ready Japanese fans? Charge!

In all seriousness if they add the English dub it's going to be the 5.1 surround sound version, they won't include the Faulconer tracks.

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