Worst movie villain?

LegendarySuperSaiyan · Post by **LegendarySuperSaiyan** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 9:36 pm

Meh, I liked Brolly. Actually, he's one of the better movie villains, IMO. He was actually psychotic; not in the "very, very weird, Majin Buu" sorta way, but in the "slit your throat and eat your Adam's Apple" way. He's probably my second favorite, next to Janemba.

The worst? Either Willow, Turles, or Slug. Willow was simply a cliched mad scientist character in an android body {a cliche that would be carried into the actual DBZ series}, Turles because he was simply a repeat of Raditz, Nappa, and Vegeta {IMO, he was actually a cooler villain; but he was just a ripoff, so that takes away all of his coolness points}, and Slug.

Slug was horrible. Slug was obnoxious. Slug was Piccolo Diamoah all over again.

Bio-Brolly is another loser. Never cared all that much for Hildegarn, either.

Coola and Metal Coola were all right, nothing special; he was a ripoff of Frieza, but at least there was a reaon for their similarities. The two Coola movies were also half decent.

Bojack was okay, but didn't really bring anything all that new to the table. Androids 13, 14, and 15 were interesting; but I didn't care for movie 7. Garlic Jr. was decent as well, but I always thought he was a slight Piccolo Diamoah ripoff, as well.

Bobby · Post by **Bobby** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 10:21 pm

Rocketman wrote: Vegito = Goku + Vegeta, so if Goku is the LSS, then Vegito is the LSS and then some.

Plus, Vegito was the last Saiyan, so he was THE SSj.

I do hope you're kidding.

Dayspring · Post by **Dayspring** » Sat Dec 18, 2004 1:00 am

Worst villain (Z movies only since I haven't seen the DB ones) = any and all from movie 2.

'lo Legends · Post by **'lo Legends** » Fri Dec 24, 2004 10:01 am

I hate Slug. Because Great Demon King Piccolo is so cool, and Slug just...isn't.

I liked Garlic Jr., but he shouldn't of had a transformation. Something is just cool about a 3 foot tall alien/gnome thing that can kick ass. He's like what Pilaf would've been if he wasn't a complete idiot.

Mike D · Post by **Mike D** » Fri Dec 24, 2004 10:19 pm

This was stated before, but I must say it again. All of the movie villains are knock-offs of villains from DB and DBZ.

ZFIGHTER_CHI CHI · Post by **ZFIGHTER_CHI CHI** » Fri Dec 24, 2004 11:03 pm

Broly, the reasons have already been stated why, and Bojack.

They made Bojack and his crew seem so powerful throughout the movie and then when Gohan goes SSJ2 they all get beaten up pretty easily.

Aurek · Post by **Aurek** » Mon Dec 27, 2004 1:27 pm

I liked pretty much all the films up until movie 7. I liked movie 1 because it was quite in keeping with Toriyama's style, movie two I didnt like because it just fell back on the overused Genki Dama. The rest of the movies up to 7 did something I wish Toriyama did in the main series: Introduced crappy henchmen that all the other characters could fight. After movie 7 it all went down hill (and its hill was never very big in the first place) I didnt mind Slug, as I have seen little of DB and when I saw that movie I had never seen any of it.

Broli kicks the crap out of everyone, last minute of the film, taken out by a single punch
Bojack and his men kick the crap out of everyone, last minute of the film, Gohan remimbers he can so SSJ2 and takes him out with a single punch
Jananba kicks the crap out of Goku and Vegeta, Fusion, taken out by a single attack
Hidegarn kicks the crap out of everyone, last second of the film, taken out by a single punch

notice the pattern...

Akira · Post by **Akira** » Wed Dec 29, 2004 2:28 am

I seriously dislike Dr. Willow, Turles, Slug and Broly.

Movie 2 had someinteresting plot elements, like Goku, Krillin and Roshi doing a tri-kamehameha, that was awesome, but the rest of the move sucked in many ways.

Movie 3 was just Saiyan saga rehash down to the last, I never have really liked anything about that movie aside from Goku sneaking Icarus up to a Cave and saying Gohan could keep him if they didn't tell Chi-Chi for awhile. That one scene I liked.

Movie 4, Um, Goku and Krillin going out to meet the threat head on with Kamehameha blasts is cool, then the movie goes straight down in the toilet after that single cool scene.

Any Movie Broly in it (8, 10, 11) I really do not care for all all. Because it creates a legion of mindless children fans of Broly who love him and think he is an unstoppable force. When in the very reality and time period of the movies, he is nothing more than an second stage Asceneded Saiyan like Trunks was against Perfect Cell. The Z fighters were too stupid to realize that he was probably too slow for them and kept attacking him head on anyway. Not to mention that Broly attacks Gohan instead of Goku in Movie 8 to keep drawing Goku closer into his slower range. Funny that I am the only one who ever notices that..

Now, the ones I do like somewhat-

Movie 6 is a decent film, has some cool team up action between Goku and Vegeta, and lots of robot rear kicking at the hands of the rest of the Z team. Even Roshi and Oolong are along for the ride on this one.

Movie 7 is more Android action, but shows us some of the Androids thought to be obsolete. The triple Super Saiyan team up is rather lame looking back, but the movie is still middle of the road decent in my book.

Movie 9 has some cool and hilarious moments at that early tournament, then is a repeat of the Cell battle with Super Saiyan 2 Gohan. Still worthwhile to watch.

The the Movies I REALLY Like

Movie 1 - post 23rd tournament, Goku and Piccolo still at each other's throats the moment they think Garlic has been defeated. This movie has an overall grittier, Dragonball feel to it than later more colorful Z. I have always liked this movie from the first time I saw it. It has interesting battles, and we see Kami fight. One of the best.

Movie 5 - Cooler coming to get revenge on whoever humilated his brother, then killed him along with his father. He assumes this is Goku and he is half right. I always assumed this took place early in the three years that the Z warriors trained to fight the Androids. Goku was training with Piccolo at the end of the Trunks Saga and he stayed in normal form to increase his base and test his skills against Piccolo. He seems to do the same with Cooler, fighting with Normal and Kaioken until he has to pull out his Trump, Super Saiyan form and show the results of his training thus far. He totally destroys the form that surpasses even the best Frieza had to offer. This movie has always been an enjoyable one for me.

Movie 12 - Fusion, an evil and humerous demon, giant jawbreakers, and Gotenks 3 vs, Hitler and the German Army, what is not to love about this one? Comedy and lots of action they way you'd expect.

Movie 13 - What do the Z team do now that Buu is beaten, Goku and Vegeta have both returned to life and everything is safe and sound? Why fight another demon from another world, that's what! Great movie, lots of action, good add in for the post Buu, pre- end of DBZ time period. I've always enjoyed it.

There are my thoughts on the movies...

The S · Post by **The S** » Thu Dec 30, 2004 1:07 am

Meh, I liked Brolly. Actually, he's one of the better movie villains, IMO. He was actually psychotic; not in the "very, very weird, Majin Buu" sorta way, but in the "slit your throat and eat your Adam's Apple" way.

Agreed. And how many characters in DBZ declare themselves as The Devil AND a God?

Akira · Post by **Akira** » Thu Dec 30, 2004 11:55 pm

Well Piccolo for one. Kami Piccolo was the god of the earth, and Damaio Piccolo was its devil for a time. They eventually remerge thus making one character that had at one time served in both capacities. Odd huh?

The S · Post by **The S** » Fri Dec 31, 2004 12:58 am

Well Piccolo for one. Kami Piccolo was the god of the earth, and Damaio Piccolo was its devil for a time. They eventually remerge thus making one character that had at one time served in both capacities. Odd huh?

Aye. You've got me there.

B-kun · Post by **B-kun** » Sun Jan 09, 2005 9:10 am

Who's Raiden?

SSJ4-Bejita · Post by **SSJ4-Bejita** » Sun Jan 09, 2005 10:02 am

Let's do this one movie at a time, shall we?

Movie 1: Loved it. It's just impossible not to laugh at Gohan's antics. Unfortunately, the godawful Garlic Jr. arc kinda ruined him for me as a villain.

Movie 2: I liked that one as well, if only because Muten Roshi fights. Dr. Willow was mildly lame, but bearably so.

Movie 3: The movie was so-so, but I liked the villain (how the hell do you spell his name anyway?). Nozawa-san's voice sounded so creepy, it was ingenious.

Movie 4: Incredibly lame and a total rip-off of the Piccolo Daimaou arc, just not anywhere near as cool.

Movie 5: I liked that movie and Koola, I think he's a pretty neat villain. Still, I can't figure out why Goku couldn't go SSJ for the better part of the movie.

Movie 6: I liked the movie and the villain. IMHO, any reference to Star Wars (at least the classic movies) makes a movie worthwile to watch ^^.

Movie 7: Pretty decent, though I didn't like the idea of Jinzoningen all over again.

Movie 8: Broli (at least in the first movie) is, in my opinion, pure awesomeness. He's psychotic, ridiculously overpowered AND he has an extremely cool voice ^^.

Movie 9: I kinda liked that movie as it was the first one since Movie 1 that featured some humor. Bojack was pretty cool, too.

Movie 10&11: Both of them sucked. Seems like they were running out of ideas at that time - poor Broli, he deserved better than a mediocre second and absolutely godawful third movie (still, Movie 4 is worse).

Movie 12: My favorite movie. Janemba kicks ass, and as bonus, some old villains make a reappearance. Plus, Hitler is bashed, which is always good.

Movie 13: Decent villain, decent movie, best theme song of all the movies. 'nuff said.

All of the above are naturally only IMHO.

Super Saiyan Knuckles · Post by **Super Saiyan Knuckles** » Sun Jan 09, 2005 10:00 pm

Lord Slug. He's a pure rip-off of the Piccolo fight, and the confusing plot with Goku didn't make the movie any better... yes, I read the transformation page, but I'm still rather confused about it... the not-quite-Kaio-Ken-but-not quite-Super-Saiyan thing.