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Post by Saiyavenger2941 » Thu Jul 23, 2009 6:48 am

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Scarz wrote:Oh and Chichi get's her neck broken. I thought it was pretty neat the way fell back like that. Dark for DBZ funi standards.
I don't understand what you mean. I fail to see how a piece of animation that was (along with every other scene in the series) left untouched from the Japanese version somehow deviates from (uncut) dub/FUNi standards.
Just a reason to bash Funi. That's all.
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Post by Son Wukong » Thu Jul 23, 2009 7:46 am

I guess I'm the only one who finds this scene really bad. The presentation of a nightmare and the aspects around it were good if not realistic...but it was totally unnecessary (even for filler) and non-dragonball fitting. But if I had to choose a winner between freaky dreams in Dragonball Z, I’d go with Cell killing Chi Chi and crushing Piccolo's head.

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Post by kusakun004 » Thu Jul 23, 2009 8:08 am

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kusakun004 wrote:I wonder, does anyone remember if this scene was edited on TV/Cartoon Network somehow, or was it shown as is?
The blood on Trunks' sword was edited out, but was otherwise unchanged. I remember saying, "Wow, that's stupid. Wouldn't there be blood?" when I first saw the ep as a kid.
Wow, that's pretty weird. I expected the blood to go, but the whole concept of Chichi's neck being snapped I didn't expect them to keep in. But, I'm pretty sure if the scene aired today on Toonami (if it was still there) it probably would be edited out, even if the show was TV-PG.
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Post by jjgp1112 » Thu Jul 23, 2009 10:36 am

This thread is proof that you guys will take any oppurtunity to bash the dub even when it's not needed :roll:
Yamcha: Do you remember the spell to release him - do you know all the words?
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Post by Saiyavenger2941 » Thu Jul 23, 2009 10:40 am

jjgp1112 wrote:This thread is proof that you guys will take any oppurtunity to bash the dub even when it's not needed :roll:
Which is sad as hell.
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Post by thefalseprophecy » Thu Jul 23, 2009 10:56 am

jjgp1112 wrote:This thread is proof that you guys will take any oppurtunity to bash the dub even when it's not needed :roll:
Not all legitimate criticism of the FUNimation dub is pointless bashing. :lol:

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Post by jjgp1112 » Thu Jul 23, 2009 10:56 am

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jjgp1112 wrote:This thread is proof that you guys will take any oppurtunity to bash the dub even when it's not needed :roll:
Not all legitimate criticism of the FUNimation dub is pointless bashing. :lol:
But is any of it necessary in the cas of this thread? Really?
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Post by mattymoron » Thu Jul 23, 2009 10:57 am

thefalseprophecy wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:This thread is proof that you guys will take any oppurtunity to bash the dub even when it's not needed :roll:
Not all legitimate criticism of the FUNimation dub is pointless bashing. :lol:
And not all pointless bashing is legitimate criticism...

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Post by isucamper » Thu Jul 23, 2009 11:35 am

jjgp1112 wrote:This thread is proof that you guys will take any oppurtunity to bash the dub even when it's not needed :roll:
More like proof that you guys will take any opportunity to defend the dub, even in the face of subjective (and more than warrented) critisim.

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Post by Li'l Lemmy » Thu Jul 23, 2009 11:54 am

For the love of gawd, this thread wasn't even about a particular version. How is it that anything related to the anime always ends up devolving into that same tired conflict over and over again?

I mean, fuck-- it's filler. Are we really going to argue over the performance of certain VAs in filler?! Can't we PLEASE just have a Wasp Eating Contest instead? :evil:


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Post by Saiyavenger2941 » Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:16 pm

Li'l Lemmy wrote:Can't we PLEASE just have a Wasp Eating Contest instead? :evil:
Tasty! I'll grab the ketchup!
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Post by jjgp1112 » Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:21 pm

isucamper wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:This thread is proof that you guys will take any oppurtunity to bash the dub even when it's not needed :roll:
More like proof that you guys will take any opportunity to defend the dub, even in the face of subjective (and more than warrented) critisim.
This thread was about a scene, then I see everyone bashing the dub version and saying they butchered it and constantly asking for the Japanese version.

Eh, back on-topic.

I remember back when I first saw the part where Trunks got stabbed in that old "With You" AMV and I was like, "WTF?! WHEN DID THIS HAPPEN?!" That was back in 2001, when all I saw of DBZ was the Cell Games.
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Post by Shiyonasan » Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:49 pm

Wow, there's more nightmares than I thought....

Here's another one Gohan has while he's in the Room of Spirit and Time:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVTx134Lj3o

This one's kind of odd. It's not too creepy, but it has Piccolo in a very school girl stance. Okay, maybe that does make it creepy....

This one is the dub with the Japanese music again.

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Post by Budogenkai » Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:56 pm

Shiyonasan wrote:Wow, there's more nightmares than I thought....

Here's another one Gohan has while he's in the Room of Spirit and Time:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVTx134Lj3o

This one's kind of odd. It's not too creepy, but it has Piccolo in a very school girl stance. Okay, maybe that does make it creepy....

This one is the dub with the Japanese music again.

Oh my god did Cell just crush Piccolos head with ease right in front of Gohan?! that was so random and creepy.

And why is it that in every dream Chi-Chi gets owned lol?

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Post by thefalseprophecy » Thu Jul 23, 2009 1:01 pm

jjgp1112 wrote: This thread was about a scene, then I see everyone bashing the dub version and saying they butchered it and constantly asking for the Japanese version.
Sorry, but some of us aren't 15-year old fans of FUNimation's dub and would rather see the original version.

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Post by jjgp1112 » Thu Jul 23, 2009 1:03 pm

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jjgp1112 wrote: This thread was about a scene, then I see everyone bashing the dub version and saying they butchered it and constantly asking for the Japanese version.
Sorry, but some of us aren't 15-year old fans of FUNimation's dub and would rather see the original version.
So now all FUNimation fans are immature teenagers? Take that generalized bullshit somewhere else.
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Shiyonasan wrote:Wow, there's more nightmares than I thought....

Here's another one Gohan has while he's in the Room of Spirit and Time:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVTx134Lj3o

This one's kind of odd. It's not too creepy, but it has Piccolo in a very school girl stance. Okay, maybe that does make it creepy....

This one is the dub with the Japanese music again.

Oh my god did Cell just crush Piccolos head with ease right in front of Gohan?! that was so random and creepy.

And why is it that in every dream Chi-Chi gets owned lol?
Everyone in Dragon Ball's secret desire is to see Chi-Chi get killed :)
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Post by thefalseprophecy » Thu Jul 23, 2009 1:04 pm

mattymoron wrote:And not all pointless bashing is legitimate criticism...
True. However, instead of being defensive whenever someone dares to criticize FUNimation, you should investigate the various criticisms.

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Post by thefalseprophecy » Thu Jul 23, 2009 1:08 pm

jjgp1112 wrote: So now all FUNimation fans are immature teenagers? Take that generalized bullshit somewhere else.
Speaking of getting defensive...

By the way they act when someone dares to criticize FUNimation, it would seem that way!

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Post by jjgp1112 » Thu Jul 23, 2009 1:10 pm

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jjgp1112 wrote: So now all FUNimation fans are immature teenagers? Take that generalized bullshit somewhere else.
Speaking of getting defensive...

By the way they act when someone dares to criticize FUNimation, it would seem that way!
You just accused me of being an immature kid for liking the dub, how the fuck do you expect me to respond to that? You're acting like a condescending jerk. Go to some other subbie forum with less rules if you want to act like that to dub fans.
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Post by MCDaveG » Thu Jul 23, 2009 1:10 pm

And what about Goku's telepathy at some spots in TV show? I think that his nightmare is obvious, Gohan too didn't saw new form of Cell and had nightmares about it...... The truth is out there
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