This is pretty dark for Dragon Ball....

Amigo Ten · Post by **Amigo Ten** » Thu Jul 23, 2009 2:40 pm

thefalseprophecy wrote:
Metalwario64 wrote: Speak for yourself.
Ouch. Is that the apex of your wit?

This confuses me.

mattymoron · Post by **mattymoron** » Thu Jul 23, 2009 2:46 pm

thefalseprophecy wrote:
mattymoron wrote: Yeah, the original version. You know, the one with subtitles in every U.S. release?
Not all of us buy the US release.

Not all of us can afford to import.

thefalseprophecy wrote:
mattymoron wrote: Look, we all know that the FUNi dub is chock full of mistakes, but it just so happens that some people (shock and awe!) prefer to watch cartoons in their native language! Just because some people happen to be fans of a particular dub doesn't make them immature, or any less of a DB fan than you...

Yes because God forbid should people read subtitles! It's really not that hard..

And once again, you ignore the fact that I have repeatedly stated that I prefer the Japanese version of the show! I have no problem reading subtitles, but some people don't feel that way.

On-topic:
I was just thinking of another scene, this one in DB. Whenever Muten Roshi attempts to seal Daimaio with the Mafuba. Once again, not particularly graphic, but he sees Piccolo completely unaffected by his Mafuba before he dies. So, he dies knowing that all his efforts were for naught. He died knowing that he gave his life for nothing, and that there might not be anyone left who can save the Earth.

I found a vid of it in youtube (in Japanese and everything

):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJyEPrtM ... L&index=39

thefalseprophecy · Post by **thefalseprophecy** » Thu Jul 23, 2009 2:51 pm

mattymoron wrote: Not all of us can afford to import.

Then buy the FUNimation release then...

mattymoron wrote: And once again, you ignore the fact that I have repeatedly stated that I prefer the Japanese version of the show! I have no problem reading subtitles, but some people don't feel that way.

I know you prefer the Japanese version, I'm referring to those dub fans who don't like having to read and would rather prefer an inaccurate version.

Amigo Ten · Post by **Amigo Ten** » Thu Jul 23, 2009 2:51 pm

Speaking of dark, have the two gunmen from the Buu saga been mentioned yet? Two oddly "real" and dangerous characters, they take advantage of the chaos caused by Buu to drive shooting people. They shoot an old couple in the head, and the puppy, and several others, for the hell of it. Just because they can.

Now, true, the big villains have acted like this, but they're big scary villains, it's expected. To have the story incorporate two regular humans doing the same, on a small scale amid all the confusion, always seemed out of place to me.

mattymoron · Post by **mattymoron** » Thu Jul 23, 2009 2:56 pm

Amigo Ten wrote:Speaking of dark, have the two gunmen from the Buu saga been mentioned yet? Two oddly "real" and dangerous characters, they take advantage of the chaos caused by Buu to drive shooting people. They shoot an old couple in the head, and the puppy, and several others, for the hell of it. Just because they can.

Now, true, the big villains have acted like this, but they're big scary villains, it's expected. To have the story incorporate two regular humans doing the same, on a small scale amid all the confusion, always seemed out of place to me.

I know what you mean. I actually watched those episodes about a week ago. Them shooting the old couple was really rough...

BUT, those two did spawn one of my favorite scenes in all of DBZ. When Hercule beats the living shit out of those two gunman

That was so incredible.

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Thu Jul 23, 2009 2:57 pm

mattymoron wrote:
Amigo Ten wrote:Speaking of dark, have the two gunmen from the Buu saga been mentioned yet? Two oddly "real" and dangerous characters, they take advantage of the chaos caused by Buu to drive shooting people. They shoot an old couple in the head, and the puppy, and several others, for the hell of it. Just because they can.

Now, true, the big villains have acted like this, but they're big scary villains, it's expected. To have the story incorporate two regular humans doing the same, on a small scale amid all the confusion, always seemed out of place to me.
I know what you mean. I actually watched those episodes about a week ago. Them shooting the old couple was really rough...

BUT, those two did spawn one of my favorite scenes in all of DBZ. When Mr. Satan beats the living shit out of those two gunman

That was so incredible.

Yeah, I was watching that recently, too. They just showed the lady getting blasted in the head, and the man got show twice. But it was cool seeing Mr. Satan beating the shit out of someone, and then Buu brutally killed the other guy.

thefalseprophecy wrote:
mattymoron wrote: Not all of us can afford to import.
Then buy the FUNimation release then...

mattymoron wrote: And once again, you ignore the fact that I have repeatedly stated that I prefer the Japanese version of the show! I have no problem reading subtitles, but some people don't feel that way.
I know you prefer the Japanese version, I'm referring to those dub fans who don't like having to read and would rather prefer an inaccurate version.

Jesus, are you a troll or something?

mattymoron · Post by **mattymoron** » Thu Jul 23, 2009 2:58 pm

thefalseprophecy wrote:
mattymoron wrote: Not all of us can afford to import.
Then buy the FUNimation release then....

I do, hence my reference to the Japenese version as the subbed version.

Metalwario64 · Post by **Metalwario64** » Thu Jul 23, 2009 2:58 pm

thefalseprophecy wrote:
Metalwario64 wrote: Speak for yourself.
Ouch. Is that the apex of your wit?

I wasn't trying to boost my ego and impress others with my "wit," I was telling you to stop generalizing people and to stop being a damn troll.

I am turning 19 in a couple of weeks, and I like FUNimations dub. Hows that for your so-called "logic" (or lack thereof?)

jjgp1112 wrote:
thefalseprophecy wrote:
mattymoron wrote: Not all of us can afford to import.
Then buy the FUNimation release then...

mattymoron wrote: And once again, you ignore the fact that I have repeatedly stated that I prefer the Japanese version of the show! I have no problem reading subtitles, but some people don't feel that way.
I know you prefer the Japanese version, I'm referring to those dub fans who don't like having to read and would rather prefer an inaccurate version.
Jesus, are you a troll or something?

Yes.

thefalseprophecy · Post by **thefalseprophecy** » Thu Jul 23, 2009 3:00 pm

jjgp1112 wrote: Jesus, are you a troll or something?

Isn't it nap time little dubbie?

Amigo Ten · Post by **Amigo Ten** » Thu Jul 23, 2009 3:01 pm

thefalseprophecy wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote: Jesus, are you a troll or something?
Isn't it nap time little dubbie?

That's a yes.

thefalseprophecy · Post by **thefalseprophecy** » Thu Jul 23, 2009 3:01 pm

Metalwario64 wrote: I am turning 19 in a couple of weeks, and I like FUNimations dub. Hows that for your so-called "logic" (or lack thereof?)

OMG!!!111 FUNIMATION IS DA BEST!!!1111

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Thu Jul 23, 2009 3:01 pm

thefalseprophecy wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote: Jesus, are you a troll or something?
Isn't it nap time little dubbie?

Dude, come on I don't even like the dub and you're getting on my nerves with this stupid shit. Do you have anything worth contributing here or not?

Metalwario64 · Post by **Metalwario64** » Thu Jul 23, 2009 3:03 pm

NeptuneKai wrote:
thefalseprophecy wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote: Jesus, are you a troll or something?
Isn't it nap time little dubbie?
Dude, come on I don't even like the dub and you're getting on my nerves with this stupid shit. Do you have anything worth contributing here or not?

VegettoEX will come around soon surely and put an end to this.

Li'l Lemmy · Post by **Li'l Lemmy** » Thu Jul 23, 2009 3:04 pm

thefalseprophecy wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote: Jesus, are you a troll or something?
Isn't it nap time little dubbie?

I'm not here to mini-mod, mind you, but remarks like this one here are just plain rude IMO and completely go against the friendly shonen atmosphere that we as members try so hard to maintain. And I'm seeing more and more of it in this thread.

Some level of maturity is desired.

~Da Lemmy

thefalseprophecy · Post by **thefalseprophecy** » Thu Jul 23, 2009 3:05 pm

NeptuneKai wrote: Dude, come on I don't even like the dub and you're getting on my nerves with this stupid shit. Do you have anything worth contributing here or not?

Hey don't blame me, blame jjgp1112 for his stupid wisecrack about me being a troll.

Kunzait_83 · Post by **Kunzait_83** » Thu Jul 23, 2009 3:07 pm

Amigo Ten wrote:Speaking of dark, have the two gunmen from the Buu saga been mentioned yet? Two oddly "real" and dangerous characters, they take advantage of the chaos caused by Buu to drive shooting people. They shoot an old couple in the head, and the puppy, and several others, for the hell of it. Just because they can.

Now, true, the big villains have acted like this, but they're big scary villains, it's expected. To have the story incorporate two regular humans doing the same, on a small scale amid all the confusion, always seemed out of place to me.

I'm kicking myself for not immediately thinking of that one. I do love that scene a great deal.

I think it definitely stands out, but I'd disagree that it's "out of place". I think it better fleshes out the universe that Dragon Ball is set in, showing that these little, more "down to earth" horrors still very much exist in this world, and that it's not all candy coated fantasy goodness. Its little elements like that that help contribute in keeping this series a bit further removed from "generic, fighting, syrupy adventure" shonen material, at least in various small ways.

thefalseprophecy wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote: Jesus, are you a troll or something?
Isn't it nap time little dubbie?

THAT kind of shit is uncalled for. Maybe you (falseprophecy) didn't come in here to troll innitially (or maybe you did for all I know), but remarks like that only serve to prove jjgp right. That "nap time little dubbie" crack is a troll comment. Textbook. And it's not at all welcome in these parts.

thefalseprophecy · Post by **thefalseprophecy** » Thu Jul 23, 2009 3:07 pm

Li'l Lemmy wrote: I'm not here to mini-mod, mind you, but remarks like this one here are just plain rude IMO and completely go against the friendly shonen atmosphere that we as members try so hard to maintain. And I'm seeing more and more of it in this thread.

Some level of maturity is desired.

~Da Lemmy

I was done with him, but he felt the need to interject with a stupid wisecrack about me being a troll.

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Thu Jul 23, 2009 3:09 pm

thefalseprophecy wrote:
Li'l Lemmy wrote: I'm not here to mini-mod, mind you, but remarks like this one here are just plain rude IMO and completely go against the friendly shonen atmosphere that we as members try so hard to maintain. And I'm seeing more and more of it in this thread.

Some level of maturity is desired.

~Da Lemmy
I was done with him, but he felt the need to interject with a stupid wisecrack about me being a troll.

That wasn't a joke. You seriously are acting like a troll.

Amigo Ten · Post by **Amigo Ten** » Thu Jul 23, 2009 3:10 pm

Kunzait_83 wrote:
Amigo Ten wrote:Speaking of dark, have the two gunmen from the Buu saga been mentioned yet? Two oddly "real" and dangerous characters, they take advantage of the chaos caused by Buu to drive shooting people. They shoot an old couple in the head, and the puppy, and several others, for the hell of it. Just because they can.

Now, true, the big villains have acted like this, but they're big scary villains, it's expected. To have the story incorporate two regular humans doing the same, on a small scale amid all the confusion, always seemed out of place to me.
I'm kicking myself for not immediately thinking of that one. I do love that scene a great deal.

I think it definitely stands out, but I'd disagree that it's "out of place". I think it better fleshes out the universe that Dragon Ball is set in, showing that these little, more "down to earth" horrors still very much exist in this world, and that it's not all candy coated fantasy goodness. Its little elements like that that help contribute in keeping this series a bit further removed from "generic, fighting, syrupy adventure" shonen material, at least in various small ways.

I didn't mean out of place in the world exactly, just out of place in the story. As far as I can remember it's the first time something like that happens, other than the odd henchman leering over Bulma.

SparkyPantsMcGee · Post by **SparkyPantsMcGee** » Thu Jul 23, 2009 3:32 pm

Shiyonasan wrote: I'm absolutely certain it's filler because I know Akira Toriyama wouldn't write something this dark.

Yes that orginal video was filler but no, Toriyama can get dark...

there is also one with 20 ripping off a civilians head...
The cell saga was probably the darkest arc(that I can remember).

Kanzenshuu

This is pretty dark for Dragon Ball....

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