Which is better for introducing people: Kai or the Original?

Big Momma · Post by **Big Momma** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 3:54 pm

So, let's say you have a friend who you want to get into Dragon Ball. Would you show them the original DBZ anime, or would you show them Kai? Which one would be a better starting point?

Freeza Heika · Post by **Freeza Heika** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 3:57 pm

I would use the original Z, but if it is someone that I know I have to hook right away or they'll lose interest, it's the manga all the way. They can get through way more, way faster that way.

Li'l Lemmy · Post by **Li'l Lemmy** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 3:58 pm

Neither. I'd pop in DragonBall; there is no other way to intro the series.

~Da Lemmy

Chrono Trigger · Post by **Chrono Trigger** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 3:59 pm

It's gotta be Kai. From my experiences of trying to get people into Dragon Ball I always find that the filler (or any kind of boring cut away from the action/plot bits) is a turn off for people trying to get into the show. They'll be all into Goku and Piccolo going at it with Raditz and it will cut away to Chi-Chi cooking and it while it may not tone down their interest completely, it certainly doesn't help. The only thing I don't like about Kai is the music. It's much better to watch season 1 with the original music than anything else. Z is a perfect place to get into the series though. If I'm trying to get people into the manga then I'll try and start them off with Dragon Ball. That is a must.

Super Ghost Kamikaze · Post by **Super Ghost Kamikaze** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 4:05 pm

I'd never introduce someone to Kai simply because it is paced worse than Z is and it has the most boring of all Dragon Ball soundtracks. Kai is paced like an action cartoon, not like a martial arts epic, so it just doesn't feel right.

Big Momma · Post by **Big Momma** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 4:06 pm

Li'l Lemmy wrote:Neither. I'd pop in DragonBall; there is no other way to intro the series.

~Da Lemmy

While I personally think your are right, you'd be suprised how many people I know decided to stop because they were uncomfortable after the first time they saw young Goku's "boy toys".

Plus, The Z series is a lot more popular here in America(I dunno about other countries).

TheGreatness25 · Post by **TheGreatness25** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 4:09 pm

Then again, anyone I tried to get to like DBZ complained that it was way too long and boring.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 4:10 pm

Super Ghost Kamikaze wrote:paced worse than Z is

You know that's impossible. Dead people have better pacing than Z.

Raki · Post by **Raki** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 4:12 pm

The manga if we want to be realistic. But I'd show Dragonball first and Kai second.

Rod · Post by **Rod** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 4:48 pm

I'd go for the manga, but if you want to start him out with anime, go with the original DB

RoarkVegeta · Post by **RoarkVegeta** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 5:41 pm

I say Kai... Fucking crab...

SonEric84 · Post by **SonEric84** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 5:57 pm

I'd say start from DB or the first volume of the manga. Just because most of us were introduced to the series ass backwards doesn't mean everyone has to be.

As for Kai...Kai is okay, but after seeing the original Z series to me it's like Dragon Ball Z: Cliff Notes Edition.

Danjoan · Post by **Danjoan** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 5:58 pm

Well, from experience, back in March I showed my friend the first Dragon Ball in its entirety, and since at the time Kai was set to debut, we ended up watching that one until about episode 7 or so, when I noticed she began to lose interest. And this was Kai for Pete's sake, so I have no idea what to say now.

B · Post by B » Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:43 pm

Raki wrote:The manga if we want to be realistic. But I'd show Dragonball first and Kai second.

I'd have to agree here.

Tweaker · Post by **Tweaker** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 7:55 pm

Li'l Lemmy wrote:Neither. I'd pop in DragonBall; there is no other way to intro the series.

~Da Lemmy

Seconded to the end of the universe. So many people are either put off entirely of misconstrue the charm of the Dragon Ball series when starting with Dragon Ball Z; the original really captures the spirit and surreality that is the Dragon Universe in a way that the two latter installments just never managed to achieve. Definitely the way to go.

Post by **Herms** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 9:39 pm

If the very beginning of DragonBall puts them off, with its nudity and whatnot, maybe you could try starting them on the 22nd TB or the Piccolo arc? You'll still have issues with them starting mid-way into the story, but it shouldn't be quite as bad since you'll still be closer to the beginning then if you started with Raditz. If they like that, they can read the earlier volumes until they catch up.

Super Sonic · Post by **Super Sonic** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:05 pm

Z may be the way to go, especially for some guys who don't like to read subs, or if you don't have access to Kai.

fps_anth · Post by **fps_anth** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:32 pm

Well, it depends on who the people are.

If they're fans of other anime and manga, I'd probably show them Kai (Japanese of course) or the manga.

If they're not fans of anime and manga, I'd wait for a dub of Kai. There's no way that my friends would watch Japanese anime, unfortunately. Hopefully it's dubbed a little better than DBZ was.

Unfortunately, I don't see much of a point of introducing anyone to DBZ now that Kai is out. I mean, without the filler, it would get them into the swing of things quicker.

NS2Goku · Post by **NS2Goku** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:47 pm

I would also want to start them off with the original Dragonball.
Out of the two though I would have to say Z. So they would be able to understand GT later on.

Supa Saiya-Jin Tullece · Post by **Supa Saiya-Jin Tullece** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:51 pm

I would probably go with Kai, seeing as the main thing that people dislike is all of the filler.

That's only if they won't read the manga, though. Manga has the best pacing out of all of them seeing as, y'know, it has decent pacing.