Dragonball's Battle Powers

[SSJSim]

Can I get the Canon list of Dragonball/Z/GT's battle powers? I know this procedure stopped after the Freeza Saga.

[Kendamu]

http://www.myfavoritegames.com/dragonba ... Levels.htm

These look pretty accurate up through the Freeza arc.

[Herms]

These look pretty accurate up through the Freeza arc.

Except they've got lots of made up stuff, like exact numbers for Recoome and co., Freeza being at 400,000 when grappling with Vegeta (huh?), Vegeta being at 300,000, etc. And they don't distinguish between things from the manga or anime.

I've put together a list of all battle powers mentioned in any official source, with the source identified. M=manga by tankoubon volume, A=anime by episode number, D=daizenshuu by volume and page number, SEG=Super Exciting Guide, WJ=Weekly Jump, VJ=V Jump, and C is anything calculated, with what the calculation is based on listed after the :.

Manga

First Search for the Dragonballs
Goku: 10 [D7-p.82]
--Oozaru: 100 [D7-0.82]
Kame-sennin: less than 139 [C: D7-p.82]
Gyuumao: 97 [VJ]
Umigame: 0.001 [A-8]

The Red Ribbon Army
Tao Pai Pai: 110 [VJ]
Karin: 190 [WJ]

The 22nd Tenkaichi Budoukai
Goku:180 [D7-p.82; WJ]
Tenshinhan: 180 [D7-p.82]
Jacky Chun: 139 [D7-p.82]
Tsuru-sennin: 120 [D7-p.82; WJ]
Chaozu: 84 [VJ]

The Battle with Piccolo Daimao
Goku: 260 [D7-p.82; WJ]
Piccolo Daimao: 260 [D7-p.82; WJ]
Kame-sennin: 180 [WJ]

The 23rd Tenkaichi Budoukai
Goku (Super Kamehameha?): 910 [WJ]
Cyborg Tao Pai Pai: 210 [WJ]
Chi Chi: 137 [VJ]

The Battle with Raditz
Farmer: 5 [M-17]
Goku (wearing heavy clothing): 334 [M-17]
--heavy clothing removed: 416 [M-17]
--firing a Kamehameha: 924 and rising [M-17]
Piccolo (wearing heavy clothing: 322 [M-17]
--heavy clothing removed: 408 [M-17]
--while charging the Makankosappo: 1,020-1,030 [M-17]
--with the Makankosappo fully charged: 1,330 [M-17]
--firing the Makankosappo a second time: 1,480 [A-5]
Gohan: 710 [M-17]
--angry: 1,307 [M-17]
--after attacking Raditz: 1 [M-17]

Raditz: 1,500 [D7-p.82; WJ]

After the Battle with Raditz
Kame-sennin: 139 [M-18]
Krillin: 206 [M-18]
Tenshinhan: 250 [M-18]
Yamcha: 177 [M-18]
Piccolo (wearing heavy clothing): 329 [M-18]
Tenshinhan, Krillin, Yamcha, and Chaozu (combined): less than 1,507 [A-17]
Kaio: 3,500 [WJ]

The Battle with Vegeta and Nappa
Goku (suppressed): 5,000 [M-19]
--at full power: Over 8,000 [M-19]
--Kaio-ken x2: Over 16,000 [C: M-20]
--Kaio-ken x3: Over 24,000 [C: M-20]
--Kaio-ken x4: Over 32,000 [C: M-20; D7-p.83]
Gohan, Piccolo, and Krillin: 981, 1,220, and 1,083 (order uncertain) [M-18]
Gohan: 981 [A-22]
--firing Masenko: 2,800 [M-19; D7-p.83; WJ]
Piccolo: 1,220 [A-22]
--full power: 3,500 [D7-p.83; WJ]
Krillin 1,083 [A-22]
--full power: 1,770 [D7-p.83; WJ]
Tenshinhan: 1,830 [D7-p.83; WJ]
Yamcha: 1,480 [D7-p.83]
Chaozu: 610 [D7-p.83; WJ]
Yajirobe: 970 [WJ]
Kami: 220 [WJ]
Mister Popo: 1,030 [WJ]

Saibaiman: 1,200 [M-18]
Nappa: 4,000 [D7-p.83; WJ]
Vegeta: 18,000 [M-21]
--Oozaru: between 40,000 and 180,000 [C: M-20, 21]

The Battle on Planet Namek
Goku (suppressed): 5,000 [M-24]
--true power: 90,000 [C: M-24; D7-p.83]
--Kaio-ken: 180,000 [M-24]
Gohan and Krillin (fighting Freeza’s mooks): 1,500 [M-21]
--during the battle with Rikuum: over 10,000 [M-23]
Gohan (during the battle with Rikuum): 14,000 [D7-p.83]
--using the Masenko: 20,000 [A-65]
Krillin (during the battle with Rikuum): 13,000 [D7-p.83]
Vegeta (arrival on Planet Namek): 24,000 [M-21]
--during the battle with Rikuum: close to 30,000 [K-19; D7-p.83]
--after the battle with Rikuum: 250,000 [VJ]
Three Warrior-type Namekians (suppressed): around 1,000 [M-22]
--at full power: 3,000 [M-22]
3 Warrior-type Namekians who attack Freeza: around 10,000 [A-70]
Nail: 42,000 [M-24]

Freeza’s Reconnaissance Team: less than 1,500 [D7-p.105]
Kui: about 18,000 [M-21; D7-p.63]
Dodoria: 22,000 [D7-p.91]
Zarbon (normal form): 23,000 [D7-p.69]
Rikuum, Jisu, and Baata: between 30,000 and 60,000 [M-24]
Captain Ginyu: 120,000 [M-24]
--in Goku’s body: 23,000 [M-24]
Freeza (first form): 530,000 [M-24]

The Battle with Freeza
Goku: 3,000,000 [D7-p.83]
--Kaio-ken x10: 30,000,000 [C: D7-p.83]
--Kaio-ken x20: 60,000,000 [C: D7-p.83]
--Super Saiya-jin: 150,000,000 [D7-p.83]
Piccolo: over 1,000,000 [D7-p.102]
Vegeta: 250,000 [VJ]
--after final near-death experience: between 1,000,000 and 3,000,000 [C: D7-p.83, p.102]

Freeza (first form): 530,000 [M-24]
--second form: over 1,000,000 [M-25]
--third form: between 1,000,000 and 3,000,000 [C: M-25; D7-p.83]
--final form, 50% full power: 60,000,000 [D7-p.83]
--final form, 75% full power: 90,000,000 [C: M-27]
--final form, 100% full power: 120,000,000 [D7-p.83]

Mecha Freeza Arrives on Earth

Trunks (suppressed): 5 [M-28]

Movies and TV specials
A Final Solitary Battle
Burdock: close to 10,000 [A-S1]
Goku (as a baby): 2 [A-S1; A-M8]

DBZ Movie 3: Super Decisive Battle for Earth
Gohan: 10,000 [A-M3]
--Oozaru: 100,000 [C: A-M3]

Piccolo: 18,000 [A-M3]

Goku: 30,000 [A-M3]
--Kaio-ken: 60,000 [C: A-M3]
--Kaio-ken x10: 300,000 [C: A-M3]

Tullece: over 300,000 [C: A-M3]

DBZ Move 5: The Incredible Strongest vs. Strongest
Gohan (weakened by having his tail grabbed): 50 [A-M5]

Sauzer: 170,000 [W]
Neiz: 163,000 [W]
Dore: 185,000 [W]

Coola (regular form):140,000,000 [V]
--final form: 470,000,000 [V]

DBZ Move 8: Burn Up!! A Close – Intense – Super-Fierce Battle
Broli (as a baby): 10,000 [A-M8]
Goku (as a baby): 2 [A-S1; A-M8]

Kiri
Yakon: 800 kiri [M-38]
Super Saiyan Goku: 3,000 kiri [M-38]
Dabura: over 4,000 kiri [A-223]

Multipliers
Oozaru: battle power x10 [M-20]
Kaio-ken xN: battle power xN [M-20; M-26; D7-p.63]
Super Saiya-jin 1: battle power x50 [D7-p.83,p.44; SEG-p.62]
Super Saiya-jin 2: Super Saiya-jin 1’s strength x2 (normal strength x100) [SEG-p.62]
Super Saiya-jin 3: Super Saiya-jin 2’s strength x4 (normal strength x400) [SEG-p.62]

[Tyro]

--firing a Kamehameha: 924 and rising [M-17]

Just curious, is this your view, or is this stated? I only ask because I know some like Chibi Mystic Gohan argue against the Kamehameha being stronger than 924.

[SHINOBI-03]

--firing a Kamehameha: 924 and rising [M-17]

Just curious, is this your view, or is this stated? I only ask because I know some like Chibi Mystic Gohan argue against the Kamehameha being stronger than 924.

That's what Raditz said when his Scouter was calculating the Kamehameha's BP

[Herms]

Just curious, is this your view, or is this stated? I only ask because I know some like Chibi Mystic Gohan argue against the Kamehameha being stronger than 924.

Well, Raditz says "His battle power is rising! Battle power 924...!" I'd interpret that as meaning that his battle power was continuing to rise even after Raditz said it was at 924.

[Tyro]

Not to mention that it took another 2 pages for Goku to fire the thing.

[JulieYBM]

Quick question, those numbers for Vegeta and third form Freeza are speculation, right? You list Daizenshû pages too...what do they say on the subject?

[Herms]

Quick question, those numbers for Vegeta and third form Freeza are speculation, right? You list Daizenshû pages too...what do they say on the subject?

They're calculated, which is what the C means. Basically, Daizenshuu 7 says that Piccolo is over 1 million after fusing with Nail, and that Goku is 3 million when he comes to fight Freeza. I think it's safe to say that Vegeta and 3rd form Freeza are both stronger than 1st form Freeza but weaker than Goku, therefore they'd be between 1 and 3 million. Same thing for Recoome and co. being between 30,000 and 60,000. 30,000 was where Vegeta was at when he fought Recoome, and 60,000 is what Ginyu estimated Goku to be at after he heard how Goku beat Recoome, Jheese, and Butta. Kuririn said that the three of them all had about the same amount of ki, therefore they'd all have to be somewhere between 30 and 60 thousand.

[NeptuneKai]

You are a god Herms, that list is awesome. Thank you so much for writing that up.

[Amigo Ten]

Weren't the 1'500 and 4'000 figures for Raditz and Nappa revised in later editions? Or is that a false rumour?

[johnboy1]

I don't think the numbers for Raditz or Nappa were revised. However, if I remember correctly, Goku's Kamehameha against Raditz was said to be 1,000 in either Landmark or Forever, whichever one copied and revised D7's power list. This makes sense given Vegeta's later comment that Raditz was beaten by power levels over 1,000.

Herms, that list is the GREATEST. However, in what capacity were those levels in the Weekly/V Jump? Were they in editors' columns or something? How were they stated?

Also, am I the only one who thought it odd that Mr. Popo was so much stronger than Kami in the Saiyan arc?

[Eddie]

Also, am I the only one who thought it odd that Mr. Popo was so much stronger than Kami in the Saiyan arc?

Pecking order!

Seriously, though, it is surprising that some of the minor characters are so powerful. It makes you wonder why they don't help fight every once in a while.

[smiley]

Also, am I the only one who thought it odd that Mr. Popo was so much stronger than Kami in the Saiyan arc?

Well it's possible that he grew stronger when he trained the Earthlings.

However, my main issue with those Shounen Jump levels is that Piccolo Daimao is above Kami, when the manga depicts Kami as being stronger. But I guess one inaccurate level doesn't discredit the whole list.

[Amigo Ten]

I don't think the numbers for Raditz or Nappa were revised. However, if I remember correctly, Goku's Kamehameha against Raditz was said to be 1,000 in either Landmark or Forever, whichever one copied and revised D7's power list. This makes sense given Vegeta's later comment that Raditz was beaten by power levels over 1,000.

I believe his comment was "by power levels of around 1000". And given that Gohan and Piccolo showed powers over 1000, even it if was "over" it'd make sense without Goku being over 1000.

[rereboy]

I believe the comment was "by powers of barely over 1000".

[DragonBalllKaiHD]

Everyone's over 9,000 by now, even Chazou.

[Herms]

Weren't the 1'500 and 4'000 figures for Raditz and Nappa revised in later editions? Or is that a false rumour?

They weren't ever revised. They were recently reprinted in the first Super Exciting Guide, and used in the DS game Attack of the Saiyans.

However, if I remember correctly, Goku's Kamehameha against Raditz was said to be 1,000 in either Landmark or Forever, whichever one copied and revised D7's power list. This makes sense given Vegeta's later comment that Raditz was beaten by power levels over 1,000.

It said that the Kamehameha was "close to 1,000", which I think is just its way of describing it being over 924.

Herms, that list is the GREATEST. However, in what capacity were those levels in the Weekly/V Jump? Were they in editors' columns or something? How were they stated.

Most of the Weekly Jump ones were included in a fold-out poster that was part of several foldout posters celebrating the Toei anime festival were the Toriyama anime Kosuke-sama premiered. I own that issue of Jump, but I can't personally confirm the V-Jump and other WJ numbers. I got the information from the Japanese Wikipedia pages from DragonBall, and they were right about the WJ numbers in the issue I bought. So I'm tempted to think they're right about these as well, but of course it's Wikipedia. I should probably note which ones are unconfirmed from Wikipedia, maybe as VJ-W.

Also, am I the only one who thought it odd that Mr. Popo was so much stronger than Kami in the Saiyan arc?

Yeah, those numbers for Kami and Popo are odd. The only way they'd really work is if Popo got a lot stronger since his first appearance, and Kami got a lot weaker. Most of the BPs from the Jump foldout poster were re-used in Daizenshuu 7, but not those. I wonder if that's just because they didn't have room, or because those numbers were judged to be wrong?

[johnboy1]

I just realized something. If we follow the pattern established in the SEGs for Super Saiyan power-ups, we can form a theoretical multiplier for SSJ4.

SSJ1: 50 times base.
USSJ1, USSJ2, FPSSJ: Somewhere between 1 and 2 times SSJ1.
SSJ2: 2 times SSJ1.
SSJ3: 4 times SSJ2.
SSJ4: 8 times SSJ3.

So, in other words...

SSJ1: 50 times base.
USSJ1, USSJ2, FPSSJ: Somewhere between 50 and 100 times base.
SSJ2: 100 times base.
SSJ3: 400 times base.
SSJ4: 3,200 times base.

Sweet mother of Jesus! All of a sudden, I see why Goku became the only one who could do anything in GT. I bet he would have topped Mystic Gohan with a multiplier like that.

[SSJSim]

You are a god Herms, that list is awesome. Thank you so much for writing that up.

Yes, thank you Herms. ^_^ My friend told me about you.

THANK YOU ALL!!!