Dragonball & One Piece: A Match Made In Heaven?

[rereboy]

I love both series'!
I Grew up with DB, it's my good old Friend I'll love forever

One Piece is my newest best friend!

I remember having a talk with another fan who likes both series', and the inevitable "Who would Win, Son Goku or Luffy?" Came up.
Most everyone who gets into this debate has to agree that you have to Nerf Son so that he can only go Super Saiyan 1 so Luffy can keep up with Gear 2nd, however I had another notion, and to all of you DB and OP fans here, I want to ask.

We all know Son would thrash Luffy if he could use all of his power (you would have to Nerf him to make it fair)
BUT. Who would win in this Match-up?
Son Goku (up to SS3, his Highest Form in the Manga) Or
Nightmare Luffy?

Are you kidding?

Roshi, who had a power level of a few hundreds, was able to blow up the moon. Can Luffy do that?

Vegeta in the Sayan arc, who had a power level of 18000, was able to destroy the Earth with his strongest attack, but was stopped by Son Goku who used a even stronger attack to stop him. Can Luffy do that?

And in the Namek saga, Goku`s base power jumped to the millions mark to be able to fight Freeza.

And thats not even going into to the SSJ.

That being said, I love one piece. Its a great manga and I enjoy it very much. Also, its obvious that Oda was inspired to some extent by Akira Toriyama`s work.

[ShinRogafuken]

Are you kidding?

Roshi, who had a power level of a few hundreds, was able to blow up the moon. Can Luffy do that?

Vegeta in the Sayan arc, who had a power level of 18000, was able to destroy the Earth with his strongest attack, but was stopped by Son Goku who used a even stronger attack to stop him. Can Luffy do that?

And in the Namek saga, Goku`s base power jumped to the millions mark to be able to fight Freeza.

And thats not even going into to the SSJ.

That being said, I love one piece. Its a great manga and I enjoy it very much. Also, its obvious that Oda was inspired to some extent by Akira Toriyama`s work.

You may be right, but that being said, one of the reasons I enjoy One Piece so much is that the characters are never overpowered, unlike Dragon Ball.

[Kezellz]

DBZ is the show with the most powerful fighters, but it doesn't have much original attacks. I mean original in super crazy, goofy and funny, and One Piece got that. Both fight scenes are good in their own way.

[Bussani]

Are you kidding?

Roshi, who had a power level of a few hundreds, was able to blow up the moon. Can Luffy do that?

Vegeta in the Sayan arc, who had a power level of 18000, was able to destroy the Earth with his strongest attack, but was stopped by Son Goku who used a even stronger attack to stop him. Can Luffy do that?

And in the Namek saga, Goku`s base power jumped to the millions mark to be able to fight Freeza.

And thats not even going into to the SSJ.

That being said, I love one piece. Its a great manga and I enjoy it very much. Also, its obvious that Oda was inspired to some extent by Akira Toriyama`s work.

You may be right, but that being said, one of the reasons I enjoy One Piece so much is that the characters are never overpowered, unlike Dragon Ball.

Yeah, it can become a problem when characters get too powerful. It's the same as simple things, like being able to fly. Eventually a character is just so strong (Goku) that normal adventures aren't a challenge for them any more. Not only that, but One Piece characters, despite not being so overpowered, still do some pretty amazing things sometimes. And the fact that they're not as super human as some other characters somehow makes it even more impressive.

Especially when that person is Usopp.

[ShinRogafuken]

Are you kidding?

Roshi, who had a power level of a few hundreds, was able to blow up the moon. Can Luffy do that?

Vegeta in the Sayan arc, who had a power level of 18000, was able to destroy the Earth with his strongest attack, but was stopped by Son Goku who used a even stronger attack to stop him. Can Luffy do that?

And in the Namek saga, Goku`s base power jumped to the millions mark to be able to fight Freeza.

And thats not even going into to the SSJ.

That being said, I love one piece. Its a great manga and I enjoy it very much. Also, its obvious that Oda was inspired to some extent by Akira Toriyama`s work.

You may be right, but that being said, one of the reasons I enjoy One Piece so much is that the characters are never overpowered, unlike Dragon Ball.

Yeah, it can become a problem when characters get too powerful. It's the same as simple things, like being able to fly. Eventually a character is just so strong (Goku) that normal adventures aren't a challenge for them any more. Not only that, but One Piece characters, despite not being so overpowered, still do some pretty amazing things sometimes. And the fact that they're not as super human as some other characters somehow makes it even more impressive.

Especially when that person is Usopp.

Yeah, I remember when Goku was collecting the Dragon Balls before the Cell Games in DBZ and I was excited because they were finally bringing back another Dragon Ball Hunt (Because the 2 in Dragon Ball were so great!!!) but is was boring and sucked because all Goku did was fly and use Instant Transmission to each Dragon Ball

[rereboy]

Are you kidding?

Roshi, who had a power level of a few hundreds, was able to blow up the moon. Can Luffy do that?

Vegeta in the Sayan arc, who had a power level of 18000, was able to destroy the Earth with his strongest attack, but was stopped by Son Goku who used a even stronger attack to stop him. Can Luffy do that?

And in the Namek saga, Goku`s base power jumped to the millions mark to be able to fight Freeza.

And thats not even going into to the SSJ.

That being said, I love one piece. Its a great manga and I enjoy it very much. Also, its obvious that Oda was inspired to some extent by Akira Toriyama`s work.

You may be right, but that being said, one of the reasons I enjoy One Piece so much is that the characters are never overpowered, unlike Dragon Ball.

I agree with you.

I just find it silly to compare different series in terms of power, especially when one of them is so over powered like Dragon Ball is. It doesn`t even make sense.

One piece doesn`t need to reach those levels to be a better manga.

[DemonRin]

That's why I said Pitting Son against NIGHTMARE Luffy.

When Luffy was Nightmare Luffy, he had the power to stop a Giant's Fist with one hand, without flinching AT ALL, and then began to toss said Giant around like a RAGDOLL.

And he didn't even bother going Gear 2nd While he was Nightmare, imagine if he did...

[rereboy]

That's why I said Pitting Son against NIGHTMARE Luffy.

When Luffy was Nightmare Luffy, he had the power to stop a Giant's Fist with one hand, without flinching AT ALL, and then began to toss said Giant around like a RAGDOLL.

And he didn't even bother going Gear 2nd While he was Nightmare, imagine if he did...

Goku was able to toss around Piccolo`s giant form like it was hardly an effort in the 23rd budokai tournament. And his power level by then was only in the hundreds.





Want to compare that to a SSJ or even Goku`s base power in the Namek saga?

Dragon ball is completely overpowered.

It doesn`t make sense to compare different series in terms of who is stronger altogether, but in the case of Dragon Ball it even makes less sense because the characters are completely over powered.

[Sebastian (SB)]

"One Piece New World"

Exactly the name I imagined. I don't know if Oda's the sort to rename the manga, though. We'll see.

Toei will take care of that for them.

Yeah, I meant on Toei's side of things anyways. I highly doubt Oda will make a name change.

It's pretty sad to see some Dragon Ball fans not being fans of One Piece, but I'm not surprised. Even with the reasons given by our fellow forum members. Not to mention the latter half becomes more about the fighting and ridiculously strong opponents. While both have the essence of adventure, one's about martial artists and the other's about really strange pirates.

[Shoryuken]

That's why I said Pitting Son against NIGHTMARE Luffy.

When Luffy was Nightmare Luffy, he had the power to stop a Giant's Fist with one hand, without flinching AT ALL, and then began to toss said Giant around like a RAGDOLL.

And he didn't even bother going Gear 2nd While he was Nightmare, imagine if he did...

It's quiet ludicrous to even compare Luffy to the like of Goku.
Goku is quicker and I mean way quicker, he is by far hypersonic.
Not only that but Son Goku is more durable etc.
One fully charged kamehameha is enough to evaporate the poor pirate.

Back on topic:
One Piece is the spiritual successor of Dragon Ball just like everyone else has said and it surpasses it in all terms.
I love Dragon Ball, but One Piece just have greater villains and so on.

[ShinRogafuken]

Back on topic:
One Piece is the spiritual successor of Dragon Ball just like everyone else has said and it surpasses it in all terms.
I love Dragon Ball, but One Piece just have greater villains and so on.

Agreed.

[Vegeta Jr]

But Dragonball has Freeza.

[Big Boss]

One Piece has better villains? Really?

Sorry, but I don't think One Piece has ever churned out a Freeza or a Piccolo Daimao.

[Sebastian (SB)]

I think in terms of character and backstories, One Piece has the better villains. Dragon Ball's got more unique villains. Aliens, Demons, and the like. But its really hard for me to compare the two aside from the obvious influence Oda had from Toriyama.

[Kaboom]

Sorry, but I don't think One Piece has ever churned out a Freeza or a Piccolo Daimao.

Maybe not, but some of One Piece's villains are pretty damn brutal and diabolical. Crocodile, Eneru, Spandam, Lucci, Blackbeard, and so on...

[Herms]

The way my friend put it, it sounds like everything that's been built up to is kind of happening, the kind of stuff that you'd expect to be the end of the story altogether. I wasn't expecting a time skip exactly, but it sounds like one of those 'you thought you knew everything? Well it all just went out the window' sort of moments. Kinda like, "Hey Kakarrot you're an alien. Piccolo too."

I'd say it's more like everything that's been going on in the background for a long time has finally come to the forefront. One Piece has always set itself apart by clearly establishing the greater context of the world that the Straw Hats inhabit, and right now those global issues are becoming the main focus while the Straw Hats kind of take a back seat.

[Rocketman]

But Dragonball has Freeza.

And One Piece has Bon Clay.

[Big Boss]

But Dragonball has Freeza.

And One Piece has Bon Clay.

And Dragon Ball has General Blue.

[Herms]

Is there a point to this?

[Shoryuken]

But Dragonball has Freeza.

And One Piece has Bon Clay.

And Dragon Ball has General Blue.

Oh, but One Piece has Don Krieg and Whitebeard.

And 3 admirals who's appearance is based on 3 famous Japanese actors.
Thats Kizaru = Kunie Tanaka, Akainu = Bunta Sugawara and Aokiji = Yūsaku Matsuda..

His attention to detail is also quite great, for example:
Kaku, his name means angle, he's a carpenter and has the looks of Pinocchio.

Piccolo Daimaou is pretty much the most vile of all Dragon Ball villainy.